EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi,

> Is there a way for us to either directly load in or convert Sound
> Designer files on a Windows based computer so we can import these
> samples directly into our EXS24?

Soundforge can batch convert Sounddesigner files into wav files. Did that
some days ago and works great.

Bye,
Joeri
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--- In logic-users@egroups.com, Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@b...> 
wrote:
>What you just described can be done in Soundforge as well. :-) 
>Soundforge allows the conversion of Motorola byte ordering as well. 
>In the batch convertor, just let Soundforge think the files are raw 
>files and then set the raw attributes to Motorola etc. Works fine > 
>over here.
> Setting up the batch-convertor I just described only takes few
>seconds. :)

Hello Joeri,

Let me understand, because we have a chance to get a real good 
locally made Mac CD-ROM (Sound Designer II files), but have goten 
conflicting stories here in the group. Before I spend the money on 
the CD-ROM, please let me ask you these questions:
1) Do you yourself have a PC using LAWP/EXS24?  
2) Have you already successfully accomplished the conversion 
operation you mentioned above - that is, on your PC, converting a Mac-
formatted CD-ROM containing SDII files into Motorla bytes and then to 
standard wave files using Sound Forge?
3) If you do a batch convert with Sound Forge, do each of the 
individual SDII files come back as individual waves that can then be 
imported directly into the EXS24 (PC)?  

Thanks for letting me know,

David Benus

Hi David,

> 1) Do you yourself have a PC using LAWP/EXS24?

Definitely! And in love with the system. :-)

> 2) Have you already successfully accomplished the conversion
> operation you mentioned above - that is, on your PC, converting a Mac-
> formatted CD-ROM containing SDII files into Motorla bytes and then to
> standard wave files using Sound Forge?

Of course, otherwise I wouldn't claim it's possible! I only believe things
when I've tried them out myself! I've recently done this because I had to
remix a project: I got all the vocals in SD2 on a Mac-made ISO**** CD-rom
(can't remember the number).

To make sure it works with your files, I have a suggestion: send me one SD2
file and I'll send back a wave file to you. In case you have a direct
connection to the internet, you can even mail me all your files and I'll
convert them for you. Only takes seconds for me.

> 3) If you do a batch convert with Sound Forge, do each of the
> individual SDII files come back as individual waves that can then be
> imported directly into the EXS24 (PC)?

Yes indeed!

I suggest you send me a SD2 file and I'll return a wav file. Then we'll be
100% sure it also works for you.

Bye,
Joeri

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joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Hello again, Joeri,

The guy selling the Mac sample CD-ROM was kind enough to convert the 
SDII samples to Wave for us, but they come up on the newly-converted 
CD-ROM together with the SDII files but without any extensions (.wav 
or SDII). We are able to use Sound Forge to highlight and tell which 
samples on the disc are Mac (they show up in the preview screen as 
unknown file type) and which are .wav (they show up as Rif wave 
files).

It is easy enough using Sound Forge to rename the files adding  
the .wav extension to the correctly formatted sound files, but it has 
to be done one file at a time.  I looked and tried to do a batch 
convert as you mentioned, and also looked for a way to batch rename 
the untitled extension-less .wav files, but I was not able to 
decipher the correct procedures for accomplsihing this task.

I really appreciate your offer to convert the samples for us, but the 
CD-ROM is about 500MB, and it is not realistic to be able to get all 
the files to you and back, as we are still using a 56k modem.

I would ask instead, if you don't mind, that you instruct me how to 
accomplish this task, step by step, within Sound Forge.  We are very 
new to the program, and getting this kind of help from someone who 
has the knowledge and experience will save us hours of learning curve 
time.

Please let me know if this help is possible within your busy schedule.

Thank you,

David Benus

--- In exs-users@egroups.com, Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@b...> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > 1) Do you yourself have a PC using LAWP/EXS24?
> 
> Definitely! And in love with the system. :-)
> 
> > 2) Have you already successfully accomplished the conversion
> > operation you mentioned above - that is, on your PC, converting a 
Mac-
> > formatted CD-ROM containing SDII files into Motorla bytes and 
then to
> > standard wave files using Sound Forge?
> 
> Of course, otherwise I wouldn't claim it's possible! I only believe 
things
> when I've tried them out myself! I've recently done this because I 
had to
> remix a project: I got all the vocals in SD2 on a Mac-made ISO**** 
CD-rom
> (can't remember the number).
> 
> To make sure it works with your files, I have a suggestion: send me 
one SD2
> file and I'll send back a wave file to you. In case you have a 
direct
> connection to the internet, you can even mail me all your files and 
I'll
> convert them for you. Only takes seconds for me.
> 
> > 3) If you do a batch convert with Sound Forge, do each of the
> > individual SDII files come back as individual waves that can then 
be
> > imported directly into the EXS24 (PC)?
> 
> Yes indeed!
> 
> I suggest you send me a SD2 file and I'll return a wav file. Then 
we'll be

> 100% sure it also works for you.
> 
> Bye,
> Joeri
> 
> --
> Joeri Vankeirsbilck
> joeri@b...
> 
> Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
> List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Hi David,

Could you send me one SD file and one wav file of that CD if possible? I'll
first test it and I'll then report. The reason is that the conversion
settings aren't always the same. You can mail to joeri@...
(PS: to save some money, send the smallest possible file)

Which leads me to an OT message to the list: does anyone know a
freeware/shareware program that can "batch" rename files? I've been looking
for that for other filetypes as well.

Bye,
Joeri

David Benus wrote:

> Hello again, Joeri,
>
> The guy selling the Mac sample CD-ROM was kind enough to convert the
> SDII samples to Wave for us, but they come up on the newly-converted
> CD-ROM together with the SDII files but without any extensions (.wav
> or SDII). We are able to use Sound Forge to highlight and tell which
> samples on the disc are Mac (they show up in the preview screen as
> unknown file type) and which are .wav (they show up as Rif wave
> files).
>
> It is easy enough using Sound Forge to rename the files adding
> the .wav extension to the correctly formatted sound files, but it has
> to be done one file at a time.  I looked and tried to do a batch
> convert as you mentioned, and also looked for a way to batch rename
> the untitled extension-less .wav files, but I was not able to
> decipher the correct procedures for accomplsihing this task.
>
> I really appreciate your offer to convert the samples for us, but the
> CD-ROM is about 500MB, and it is not realistic to be able to get all
> the files to you and back, as we are still using a 56k modem.
>
> I would ask instead, if you don't mind, that you instruct me how to
> accomplish this task, step by step, within Sound Forge.  We are very
> new to the program, and getting this kind of help from someone who
> has the knowledge and experience will save us hours of learning curve
> time.
>
> Please let me know if this help is possible within your busy schedule.
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Benus

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Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

> The guy selling the Mac sample CD-ROM was kind enough to convert the
> SDII samples to Wave for us, but...
> It is easy enough using Sound Forge to rename the files adding
> the .wav extension to the correctly formatted sound files, but it has
> to be done one file at a time.  I looked and tried to do a batch
> convert as you mentioned, and also looked for a way to batch rename
> the untitled extension-less .wav files, but I was not able to
> decipher the correct procedures for accomplsihing this task.

Sorry for the delay..

Just load the "extension-less" SD2 files eg in the batchconvertor. In the
batch convertor, there is a setting where you can set properties for raw
files (source raw attributes). Set that to Mac redbook audio (that should
work imo) or something like that.
Then in conversion settings, set up filetype to WAV PCM etc... that's it.
Now apply the conversion (don't forget to set a destination folder first).

Hope this helps,
Joeri
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Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Yesterday I tried to make a guitar patch with one sample with portamento
glide settings, but it retriggers the sample on each sequenced note. This
works perfectly fine on the ES1, but apparently not on the EXS24 and other
VST instruments. From what I can tell, it's transmitting the pitch-slide
instructions at the same time it sends new note on-triggers for each
sequenced note, when all it should do is send the pitch glide commands,
provided my sequenced notes overlap. I did configure the instrument for one
voice only with the portamento setting "on" and a healthy glide setting. I'd
appreciate any feedback from other people who have tried to configure
similar programming and have insight into this problem.

Thanks,
Jer

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Isn't there any other users out there that have problems with portamento? If
you are using a Mac and you have successfully used portamento glide in the
EXS, can you please respond? This is bothering me deeply. Only in the ES1
does the mono port-glide function properly, within LAP 4.61. Any clues would
be appreciated. No other VST instruments' mono-glide function properly (see
my last post on this subject for more details).

In laymen's terms, in a sequence with overlapping notes, I want one note to
glide up to the next, instead of retriggering.

Thanks,
Jer

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Global Express Media LLC
"The Mecca for Musicians"

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