EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I  get the exs24 last week, it really rocks. I'm curious about the 
akai traslation quality. Are all parameters translated (mapping, 
loop, tuning, velocity, ADSR, filter, controllers, lfo...)? or is better 
to wait for Cdxtract or traslator release? (by the way, are available 
yet?)

Thanks in advance

Juanje

Hi Juanje,

--- In exs-users@y..., "juanjeluzardo" <jluzardo@t...> wrote:
> I  get the exs24 last week, it really rocks. I'm curious about the 
> akai traslation quality. Are all parameters translated (mapping, 
> loop, tuning, velocity, ADSR, filter, controllers, lfo...)? or is 
better 
> to wait for Cdxtract or traslator release? (by the way, are 
available 
> yet?)

IMHO, the bundled Akai conversion utility that comes with the exs-24 
is okay if you only have 2 or 3 CD-Roms to convert.  Otherwise, I 
would recommend either Translator or CDXtract.  The conversion 
utility in exs-24 is extremely slow compared to these other 
conversion programs.  

Also, I found that there are many samples that come across with 
clicks in them (where they don't have them on an Akai sampler) or the 
loops are wrong.  Incidentally, I also found this with some of the 
CDXtract conversions when I was comparing it to Translator.  I 
believe that currently Translator is the best conversion utility 
available at the moment.  CDXtract isn't bad, don't get me wrong.  
However, I feel that Translator is more accurate at its conversions.

If you were asking about a Mac version, it is not available for 
either program yet but both companies say that one will be available 
very soon.  It is my understanding that both will work under Virtual 
PC though I haven't tried it myself since I am already on a PC.

HTH,
Fernstudio

> If you were asking about a Mac version, it is not available for 
> either program yet but both companies say that one will be 
available 
> very soon.  It is my understanding that both will work under 
Virtual 
> PC though I haven't tried it myself since I am already on a PC.
> 
> HTH,
> Fernstudio

Thanks, i´m on Mac. I´ll wait for Translator, it seems ready to 
release

>   From: "nando10000" <fernstudio@...>
>Also, I found that there are many samples that come across with 
>clicks in them (where they don't have them on an Akai sampler) or the 
>loops are wrong.  Incidentally, I also found this with some of the 
>CDXtract conversions

I don't find you in my customer base so I guess you are speaking
about a demo version which is limited to one partition only.
The click problem usually comes from a not well known feature
of the Akai sampler, the loop points that are displayed on the
screen are not the loop points that are used to play the samples.
The  internal converters of the EXS24 and the Creamware
sampler don't fix this looping problem which may result in
some audible clicks. CDXtract automatically adjust the loop
points to match those used by the Akai samplers. Another
reason why you may have clicks is when the left and right
channels of a stereo sample have different loop points. If
during the conversion you have checked the option to merge
the left and right samples into stereo interleaved files you may
have some clicks in the loop because interleaved files share
the same loop for both channels.

>If you were asking about a Mac version, it is not available for 
>either program yet but both companies say that one will be available 
>very soon.  It is my understanding that both will work under Virtual 
>PC though I haven't tried it myself since I am already on a PC.

A big warning here, though it works with VPC 3 and 4, it doesn't seem
to work with VPC 5 because the disk insert events are not trapped
anymore by VPC 5 which means that you cannot read any proprietary
formated discs (Akai, Emu, Roland...)
Anyway the Mac version of CDXtract should be available next month,
we are reaching the end of the betatest phase.

Bernard