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Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by HELP@MusicProTools.com

Can you rephrase your question? Not sure what you're asking.
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> What do u think about a realTime EXS on HD like GIGASAMPLER ??
> 64 Poly, and unlimited HD....:o)
> igor
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Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by Yael & Igor

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> > What do u think about a realTime EXS on HD like GIGASAMPLER ??
> > 64 Poly, and unlimited HD....:o)
> > igor


> Can you rephrase your question? Not sure what you're asking.
**********
i rephrase :
an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by HELP@MusicProTools.com

Say the whole question. What about it? Are you asking if it does that? Or
are you saying you want it to (behave more like Gigasampler)? I don't know
what you want to know? If you are asking whether it currently does or not,
I'm not sure. I had thought that it loads all samples in the song directly
into RAM. But I don't think so, since I've mixed tracks with well over 20 or
30 megs of audio tracks running easily with 50MB of RAM allocated to Logic.
To me that suggests that it does not rely on RAM to push the amount audio
(and assumedly EXS samples). To me, RAM affects number of audio tracks, ASIO
and other DSP, while hard disk performance affects audio quantity (total
bandwidth of audio available to logic before it hits the mixer). Maybe I'm
out of my league here, but those are my thoughts. Hope this helps. Don't
really understand what your want though...

> an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)

-------------------------
Apple PowerBook G3 400Mhz
Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1
384 MB of Ram
Digigram VX Pocket sound card
-------------------------
Jer Olsen, President
Global Express Media LLC
"The Mecca for Musicians"

Get low prices on professional CD/Cass duplication
with our new "Quick Quote" calculator:
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Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by Paul Najar

Yael & Igor on 25/1/01 3:26 AM, Yael & Igor at yael@... wrote:

>> Can you rephrase your question? Not sure what you're asking.
> **********
> i rephrase :
> an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)

Isn't this what is announced for the upcoming EXS 4.7 release?

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by Yael & Igor

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> Yael & Igor on 25/1/01 3:26 AM, Yael & Igor at yael@... wrote:
>
> >> Can you rephrase your question? Not sure what you're asking.
> > **********
> > i rephrase :
> > an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)
>
> Isn't this what is announced for the upcoming EXS 4.7 release?
Ooooppss i haven't read !!!!!!! i was thinking it was one of my ideas !!
:o))))
igor

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-24 by Julie Larson

Hey Jer,
The EXS is loading the samples into ram.  But not the ram allocated to
logic.  It's using the excess ram on your computer to load the samples.  If
you look at the "about this computer" (you know in the apple menu)  you'll
find logic is running in much more than you have allocated to it.  In my
case I had about 40 meg allocated to Logic but it was running in 253
meg...big samples.  By the way the emagic site did mention something about
real time HD addressing in 4.7.  take a look.  Lots of new stuff for EXS

regards
julie
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Say the whole question. What about it? Are you asking if it does that? Or
are you saying you want it to (behave more like Gigasampler)? I don't know
what you want to know? If you are asking whether it currently does or not,
I'm not sure. I had thought that it loads all samples in the song directly
into RAM. But I don't think so, since I've mixed tracks with well over 20 or
30 megs of audio tracks running easily with 50MB of RAM allocated to Logic.
To me that suggests that it does not rely on RAM to push the amount audio
(and assumedly EXS samples). To me, RAM affects number of audio tracks, ASIO
and other DSP, while hard disk performance affects audio quantity (total
bandwidth of audio available to logic before it hits the mixer). Maybe I'm
out of my league here, but those are my thoughts. Hope this helps. Don't
really understand what your want though...

> an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)

-------------------------
Apple PowerBook G3 400Mhz
Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1
384 MB of Ram
Digigram VX Pocket sound card
-------------------------
Jer Olsen, President
Global Express Media LLC
"The Mecca for Musicians"

Get low prices on professional CD/Cass duplication
with our new "Quick Quote" calculator:
http://MusicProTools.com/duplication.shtml

And don't forget all the other FREE resources we offer
professional musicians at http://MusicProTools.com/


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Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-25 by Kaveh Cohen

EXS24 will be streaming samples from the drive as of Logic Platinum version 4.7
which is to be released mid-February.  There is a new control panel in Logic
dedicated to the disk streaming features.  This will allow somewhat Gigasampler
performance in that you can now create huge files that need not be loaded into
RAM.  However, I am skeptical as to whether or not third party publishers will
be creating libraries in this manner as they have for Gigasampler.  Another
much awaited feature in Platinum 4.7 is the file hierarchy.  This will allow
you to place your samples into folders which will appear categorized in EXS24.
No more long shopping list of sounds.  Now everything can be organized and
manageable.  I believe Emagic has also applied this file hierarchy to the
plug-ins in the audio mixer.  Logic 4.7 will also allow for 24 audio
instruments instead of the original 16.  Bear in mind however that this does
involve more processor usage.  EXS24 will in mid-February also support TDM,
SoundFont, and SampleCell I and II formats.  As of version 4.6.3 of Logic,
EXS24 and ES1 both have a new button on the editor that once pressed, displays
several key parameters only available if the panel was switched to the controls
display.

Also be on the look out for Emagic's new EVP88, a 88 note polyphonic vintage
piano virtual instrument and a hardware tactile surface controller to be
developed in partnership with Mackie.

All news is from the Emagic press release at the NAMM show.


Kaveh Cohen
Composer.

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-25 by Phil Buckle

on 1/25/01 7:41 AM, HELP@... at HELP@... wrote:

> Say the whole question. What about it? Are you asking if it does that? Or
> are you saying you want it to (behave more like Gigasampler)? I don't know
> what you want to know? If you are asking whether it currently does or not,
> I'm not sure. I had thought that it loads all samples in the song directly
> into RAM. But I don't think so, since I've mixed tracks with well over 20 or
> 30 megs of audio tracks running easily with 50MB of RAM allocated to Logic.
> To me that suggests that it does not rely on RAM to push the amount audio
> (and assumedly EXS samples). To me, RAM affects number of audio tracks, ASIO
> and other DSP, while hard disk performance affects audio quantity (total
> bandwidth of audio available to logic before it hits the mixer). Maybe I'm
> out of my league here, but those are my thoughts. Hope this helps. Don't
> really understand what your want though...
> 
>> an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)
> 
I think what he is saying is that the new EXS will.......as an option...
stream direct from disc and only buffer in RAM. I'm not sure if this is only
for Mac or TDM. Anyway it's coming soon and you won't have to worry about
RAM limitations.
You can read about it on the Emagic site under NAMM news.
Also EXS will translate SampleCell both platforms........thank you oh great
ones!
Phil Buckle.
Phil Buckle.

Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???

2001-01-25 by HELP@MusicProTools.com

Thanks, Julie. What you're saying fits with my initial understanding that
the EXS loads samples into RAM, but I hadn't realized that it does it
outside of the allocated RAM. I know one of the Logic reps, and I'm
surprised she never mentioned this to me. Now I know why she suggested
setting the program RAM so low. I guess having the 384MB of RAM has helped
more than I realized. Thanks again for the explanation
-------------------------
Apple PowerBook G3 400Mhz
Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1
384 MB of Ram
Digigram VX Pocket sound card
-------------------------
Jer Olsen, President
Global Express Media LLC
"The Mecca for Musicians"

Get low prices on professional CD/Cass duplication
with our new "Quick Quote" calculator:
http://MusicProTools.com/duplication.shtml

And don't forget all the other FREE resources we offer
professional musicians at http://MusicProTools.com/
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> From: Julie Larson <julielarson@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:33:48 -0500 (EST)
> To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???
> 
> Hey Jer,
> The EXS is loading the samples into ram.  But not the ram allocated to
> logic.  It's using the excess ram on your computer to load the samples.  If
> you look at the "about this computer" (you know in the apple menu)  you'll
> find logic is running in much more than you have allocated to it.  In my
> case I had about 40 meg allocated to Logic but it was running in 253
> meg...big samples.  By the way the emagic site did mention something about
> real time HD addressing in 4.7.  take a look.  Lots of new stuff for EXS
> 
> regards
> julie
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: "HELP@..." <HELP@...>
> To: <exs-users@egroups.com>
> Sent: January 24, 2001 9:41:41 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: [exs] EXS new version release date???
> 
> 
> Say the whole question. What about it? Are you asking if it does that? Or
> are you saying you want it to (behave more like Gigasampler)? I don't know
> what you want to know? If you are asking whether it currently does or not,
> I'm not sure. I had thought that it loads all samples in the song directly
> into RAM. But I don't think so, since I've mixed tracks with well over 20 or
> 30 megs of audio tracks running easily with 50MB of RAM allocated to Logic.
> To me that suggests that it does not rely on RAM to push the amount audio
> (and assumedly EXS samples). To me, RAM affects number of audio tracks, ASIO
> and other DSP, while hard disk performance affects audio quantity (total
> bandwidth of audio available to logic before it hits the mixer). Maybe I'm
> out of my league here, but those are my thoughts. Hope this helps. Don't
> really understand what your want though...
> 
>> an EXS24 who read directly Samples on HD .... :o)
> 
> -------------------------
> Apple PowerBook G3 400Mhz
> Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1
> 384 MB of Ram
> Digigram VX Pocket sound card
> -------------------------
> Jer Olsen, President
> Global Express Media LLC
> "The Mecca for Musicians"
> 
> Get low prices on professional CD/Cass duplication
> with our new "Quick Quote" calculator:
> http://MusicProTools.com/duplication.shtml
> 
> And don't forget all the other FREE resources we offer
> professional musicians at http://MusicProTools.com/
> 
> 
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