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Programming the WAH with the Control One

Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-03 by jeffrankin101

I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not 
figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add 
it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to 
add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this 
please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect 
processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah 
sounds good.

RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-03 by Pedro Ferreira

The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your 2101
so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.



-----Mensagem original-----
De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...] 
Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One



I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not 
figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add 
it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to 
add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this 
please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect 
processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah 
sounds good.





 
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-04 by krazydog@sympatico.ca

I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


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> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
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> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Jeff Rankin

I have the 3.0.0 upgrade.  The pedal I did calibrate.  That was weird because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122.  I guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to make it read 0 that would be cool and 127.  I thought that was what the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
 
Jeff

krazydog@... wrote:
I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


>
> The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your
2101
> so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
>
> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Jeff Rankin

Jeff Rankin <jeffrankin101@...> wrote:I have the 3.0.0 upgrade.  The pedal I did calibrate.  That was weird because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122.  I guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to make it read 0 that would be cool and 127.  I thought that was what the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
 
Jeff

krazydog@... wrote:
I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


>
> The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your
2101
> so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
>
> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by krazydog@sympatico.ca

I find that also so what is when calibrating, don't go the "extreme" distance either way.
Leave a tiny bit on each end "uncalibrated". This takes care of the issue, when you go either way afterwards it reads the full values.
Do you have the manual for the 2101??
I just re-read your post & see that you're having a hard time "assigning" the Wah to the ped.
I'll have to dig out my manual & let you know how to accomplish this.
If I had my 2101 in front of me I could go through it but it's packed away at the moment.
Cheers
Sean
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Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

I have the 3.0.0 upgrade. The pedal I did calibrate. That was weird because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122. I guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to make it read 0 that would be cool and 127. I thought that was what the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
Jeff

krazydog@... wrote:
I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Ferreira"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


>
> The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your
2101
> so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
>
> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah. I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please. Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor. I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
>
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Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Marko Menart

In order to read "0" when pedal down and "127" when
the pedal is up, you must use a little trick: when
calibrating the pedal, don't push/pull the pedal all
the way, but leave just a little space in both
positions.

This trick is especially necessary if you want wah to
sound like "normal wah". To simulate the knee that
"normal wah" have you should minimize the path from
closed to opened pedal.

Note that short path of the pedal probably won't sound
good on other patches, so calibrating an external
pedal this way might be a good idea...

...or even better idea: use Crybaby...

Regards, Marko


		
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Jeff Rankin

I do have the manual.  I only saw how to link for turning it on or off with a footswitch assignment but not how to assign the expression pedal.  Thanks for helping out.  I know how difficult things are when you don't have something in front of you trying to help out :-)

krazydog@... wrote:I find that also so what is when calibrating, don't go the "extreme" distance either way.
Leave a tiny bit on each end "uncalibrated". This takes care of the issue, when you go either way afterwards it reads the full values.
 
Do you have the manual for the 2101??
I just re-read your post & see that you're having a hard time "assigning" the Wah to the ped.
I'll have to dig out my manual & let you know how to accomplish this.
If I had my 2101 in front of me I could go through it but it's packed away at the moment.
 
Cheers
Sean
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff Rankin 
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


I have the 3.0.0 upgrade.  The pedal I did calibrate.  That was weird because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122.  I guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to make it read 0 that would be cool and 127.  I thought that was what the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
 
Jeff

krazydog@... wrote:
I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


>
> The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your
2101
> so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
>
> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Jeff Rankin

Jeff Rankin <jeffrankin101@...> wrote:I do have the manual.  I only saw how to link for turning it on or off with a footswitch assignment but not how to assign the expression pedal.  Thanks for helping out.  I know how difficult things are when you don't have something in front of you trying to help out :-)

krazydog@... wrote: I find that also so what is when calibrating, don't go the "extreme" distance either way.
Leave a tiny bit on each end "uncalibrated". This takes care of the issue, when you go either way afterwards it reads the full values.
 
Do you have the manual for the 2101??
I just re-read your post & see that you're having a hard time "assigning" the Wah to the ped.
I'll have to dig out my manual & let you know how to accomplish this.
If I had my 2101 in front of me I could go through it but it's packed away at the moment.
 
Cheers
Sean
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff Rankin 
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


I have the 3.0.0 upgrade.  The pedal I did calibrate.  That was weird because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122.  I guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to make it read 0 that would be cool and 127.  I thought that was what the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
 
Jeff

krazydog@... wrote:
I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.

Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.

Cheers
Sean

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One


>
> The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of your
2101
> so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
>
> I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> sounds good.
>
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>
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Jeff Rankin

Thanks Marko.  I will try that.  do you know how to config the 2101 to have the expression work when you add the traditional wah to the algorithm. That is where I am running into difficulties is with getting the wah to work on the control one expression pedal.
 
Thanks,
 
Jeff

Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:
In order to read "0" when pedal down and "127" when
the pedal is up, you must use a little trick: when
calibrating the pedal, don't push/pull the pedal all
the way, but leave just a little space in both
positions.

This trick is especially necessary if you want wah to
sound like "normal wah". To simulate the knee that
"normal wah" have you should minimize the path from
closed to opened pedal.

Note that short path of the pedal probably won't sound
good on other patches, so calibrating an external
pedal this way might be a good idea...

...or even better idea: use Crybaby...

Regards, Marko


            
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Re: Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by saber540ltd

1) Go to the program (patch) that contains the Wah.
2) Press the "More" button until you get the Wah parameters displayed.
3) Press on the "3" button below the Pedal parameter.
4) Press the "MIDI" button.
5) Press the "Next" button.
6) Turn the parameter wheel until it indicates that the wah "Links to 
Int Exp Pedal".
7) Press the "2" button to set the Min/Max values.
8) Press the MIDI button to exit.



--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rankin <jeffrankin101@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks Marko.  I will try that.  do you know how to config the 2101 
to have the expression work when you add the traditional wah to the 
algorithm. That is where I am running into difficulties is with 
getting the wah to work on the control one expression pedal.
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> Thanks,
>  
> Jeff

Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Marko Menart

Have you linked wah correctly?

When you add a module to an existing algorithm, the
links before and after this module are broken, so you
must restore those links in order to make any use of
this added module. Autolink is not the best way to
restore those links.

You can download the manual directly from Digitech's
site:
http://www.digitech.com/ftp_mirror/PDFs/Discontinued%20Products/Manuals/GSP2101manual.pdf

Best regards, Marko


		
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Re: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One

2005-01-05 by Adrian Teo

The problem you describe is common in the C1/GSP-2101 combo. The 
optical sensor on the C1 is susceptible to a slight variance.

The recommended calibration method is not to put the pedal at it's 
extreme ends when you are doing the calibration. Stop just a little 
short of the full travel of the pedal (e.g. when you push it forward, 
push it all the way forward and back up like 1/8" or so) before you hit 
the button to "lock-in" that position.

When calibrated this way, the 2101 will respond properly since the 
pedal "overtravels" past the calibration points so you get the true 
"0-127" range of sweep.

I've yet to find any wah effect in any rackmount processor to replace 
my cry baby.

-AT
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On Jan 5, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Jeff Rankin wrote:

> I have the 3.0.0 upgrade.  The pedal I did calibrate.  That was weird 
> because when I go all the way back it doesn't go to 0 it stops at 2 
> and when pushed forward instead of going to 127 it goes to 122.  I 
> guess that might be something with the pedal. If there is a way to 
> make it read 0 that would be cool and 127.  I thought that was what 
> the calibration was to do was to reset all to the right parameters. 
> Anyways to make a long story short I did calibarate it. Thanks for you 
> guys wanting to help out :-) I was getting very frustrated.
>  
> Jeff
>
> krazydog@sympatico.ca wrote:
> I agree, it's super lame, I doubt you'll ditch your Cry Baby.
>
> Is your C1 expression pedal calibrated??
> I believe it's through the utility button you'll find the calibration.
>
> Cheers
> Sean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Ferreira" <pedro_mig_ferreira@net.sapo.pt>
> To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
>
>
> >
> > The wah sucks, but anyway... You must tell what is the version of 
> your
> 2101
> > so that we can help you. It is displayed when you turn the unit on.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Mensagem original-----
> > De: jeffrankin101 [mailto:jeffrankin101@...]
> > Enviada: segunda-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2005 18:22
> > Para: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > Assunto: [gsp-2101] Programming the WAH with the Control One
> >
> >
> >
> > I have just purchased this unit and like it a lot however I can not
> > figure out how to program the traditional wah.  I figured how to add
> > it to the algorithm by reading the manual but I did not see how to
> > add the expression pedal to it. Can someone help me with this
> > please.  Currently I am using a crybaby wah then going to the effect
> > processor.  I would like to use the 2101 for all its worth if the wah
> > sounds good.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.