MOTM

Ok, Ok, well so I ordered an 850 Pedal Interface.   The next thing I 
need is a pedal to go with it.   I know nothing about pedals.   I 
scanned the archives and did not find what I was looking for.   I do 
have a pedal that came with my Kurzweil SP-88 used for sustain, can 
that be used with the 850?

Questions for the list.  What pedals are available?   Are they 
expensive?  What are the features of the different pedals?   Does 
anyone have any opinions on which pedal is good to buy?

Andy

Sustain "pedals" are a switch, and will not work.

This *should* be in archives, but......

Yamaha FC-5
Yamaha FC-7
Yamaha FC-9
Roland EV-5

are all tested and approved. I'm sure there are others. If you find a
different one, let me know. Basically, we are
looking for 'resistive' pedals with a 3-wire (stereo) plug, or a CV Out
pedal (has a battery inside).

Paul S.


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From: <andy@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: [motm] Slightly OT, Pedals? Which one?


> Ok, Ok, well so I ordered an 850 Pedal Interface.   The next thing I
> need is a pedal to go with it.   I know nothing about pedals.   I
> scanned the archives and did not find what I was looking for.   I do
> have a pedal that came with my Kurzweil SP-88 used for sustain, can
> that be used with the 850?
>
> Questions for the list.  What pedals are available?   Are they
> expensive?  What are the features of the different pedals?   Does
> anyone have any opinions on which pedal is good to buy?
>
> Andy
>
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>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>

In a message dated 9/26/01 11:30:37 AM, andy@... writes:

<< Questions for the list.  What pedals are available?   Are they 
expensive? >>

Lots available.  I have a Peavey CV1 which is good for control-voltage 
purposes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1468179947

Also, check out the Rolls RFX402p which is a stereo expression pedal that 
works for control voltages as well ($45 direct from them, less at some 
dealers like Guitar Center):

http://www.rolls.com

As far as pedal switches go, the Fatar and Roland are good.  Check eBay; 
again, most music stores stock these.  Be sure to check if the switch is 
normally open or closed.

Ivan

Roland EV5 pedal $54.95 at Zzounds.com:
http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLEV5&z=1178998303666

There's one on ebay right now for $61! Stay away.  :)

Yamaha FC7 pedal $39.95 at Zzounds.com:
http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMFC7&z=1178998303666

Cheers,
George

----- Original Message -----

From: <andy@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:30 PM
Subject: [motm] Slightly OT, Pedals? Which one?


> Ok, Ok, well so I ordered an 850 Pedal Interface.   The next thing I
> need is a pedal to go with it.   I know nothing about pedals.   I
> scanned the archives and did not find what I was looking for.   I do
> have a pedal that came with my Kurzweil SP-88 used for sustain, can
> that be used with the 850?
>
> Questions for the list.  What pedals are available?   Are they
> expensive?  What are the features of the different pedals?   Does
> anyone have any opinions on which pedal is good to buy?
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

You can also use a guitar volume pedal with a custom cable to convert 
the stereo phone plug at the 850 end to two mono phone plugs. I use 
an Ernie Ball pedal in this way. It has a weird response since it's 
an audio taper pot inside the pedal, but it works. I'd only recommend 
going this route if you have such a pedal laying around idle.

I will comment on the "usability" of these on the list that I have
experience with.  I use exclusively the Yamaha FC-7 but have never actually
seen the other Yamaha pedals.  I have also used the Roland EV-5.

If you want a nice long throw the Yamaha FC-7 is excellent.  It is fully
rubber coated, quiet and smooth operating.  Additionally, the throw angle is
adjustable, optimized for a standing or seated position.

The Roland EV-5 is a more cheaply made and does not feel as substantial
IMHO.  However, if you want something with a "short" throw, the EV-5 fits
the bill.

I was playing with the pedal interface, using it for a wah-wah pedal
controlling MOTM filters.  I found that the throw on the FC-7 was a little
long and the EV-5 was easier to use in that particular case.  But, overall,
I like the FC-7 much better as you have much more accurate control with the
longer throw.

So, who knows the difference in the various Yamaha models?

Larry Hendry
www.wiseguysynth.com

PS.  There are some photos of the prototype at:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/pedal.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>

This *should* be in archives, but......
Yamaha FC-5
Yamaha FC-7
Yamaha FC-9
Roland EV-5
are all tested and approved. I'm sure there are others.

Do you know about the Big Briar EP-1 Expression Pedal?

How else can you get a Moog for $40?

JP

--- In motm@y..., "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> Sustain "pedals" are a switch, and will not work.
> 
> This *should* be in archives, but......
> 
> Yamaha FC-5
> Yamaha FC-7
> Yamaha FC-9
> Roland EV-5
> 
> are all tested and approved. I'm sure there are others. If you find 
a
> different one, let me know. Basically, we are
> looking for 'resistive' pedals with a 3-wire (stereo) plug, or a CV 
Out

> pedal (has a battery inside).
> 
> Paul S.

Well, the pedal interface is "optimized" for 3 different sizes of resistive
pots.  8.5K (Roland EV-5), 50K Yamaha FC-7 and others, and 100 K (generic).
A single jumper on the board selects the appropriate range.  So, if the Moog
is one of those three, it will work perfectly.  However, if not, you can
change one resistor and still have three selections - the Roland the Yamaha
and something else (the Moog).  I have not seen or used the Moog pedal, so I
cannot say anything about it.  Does someone know the pot size?  The R/T/S
wiring arrangement does not matter.  The pedal interface accepts both.

But, really, you cannot expect the Moog pedal to appear on the official
list....   :)
Stooge Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: <chupacba@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: [motm] Re: Slightly OT, Pedals? Which one?


Do you know about the Big Briar EP-1 Expression Pedal?

How else can you get a Moog for $40?

JP

--- In motm@y..., "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> Sustain "pedals" are a switch, and will not work.
>
> This *should* be in archives, but......
>
> Yamaha FC-5
> Yamaha FC-7
> Yamaha FC-9
> Roland EV-5
>
> are all tested and approved. I'm sure there are others. If you find
a
> different one, let me know. Basically, we are
> looking for 'resistive' pedals with a 3-wire (stereo) plug, or a CV
Out
> pedal (has a battery inside).
>
> Paul S.






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It's a 100K pot.

dave

At 07:12 PM 9/27/01 -0500, J. Larry Hendry wrote:

>Well, the pedal interface is "optimized" for 3 different sizes of resistive
>pots.  8.5K (Roland EV-5), 50K Yamaha FC-7 and others, and 100 K (generic).
>A single jumper on the board selects the appropriate range.  So, if the Moog
>is one of those three, it will work perfectly.  However, if not, you can
>change one resistor and still have three selections - the Roland the Yamaha
>and something else (the Moog).  I have not seen or used the Moog pedal, so I
>cannot say anything about it.  Does someone know the pot size?  The R/T/S
>wiring arrangement does not matter.  The pedal interface accepts both.
>
>But, really, you cannot expect the Moog pedal to appear on the official
>list....   :)
>Stooge Larry
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <chupacba@...>
>To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:15 PM
>Subject: [motm] Re: Slightly OT, Pedals? Which one?
>
>
>Do you know about the Big Briar EP-1 Expression Pedal?
>
>How else can you get a Moog for $40?
>
>JP
>
>--- In motm@y..., "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> > Sustain "pedals" are a switch, and will not work.
> >
> > This *should* be in archives, but......
> >
> > Yamaha FC-5
> > Yamaha FC-7
> > Yamaha FC-9
> > Roland EV-5
> >
> > are all tested and approved. I'm sure there are others. If you find
>a
> > different one, let me know. Basically, we are
> > looking for 'resistive' pedals with a 3-wire (stereo) plug, or a CV
>Out
> > pedal (has a battery inside).
> >
> > Paul S.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I forgot to mention, it looks like a Fatar.  (Made in Italy stamping)

dave

At 08:18 PM 9/27/01 -0400, Dave Hylander wrote:

>It's a 100K pot.
>
>dave

Well, then it will work without any modification.  Just dumb luck.
Larry H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dave Hylander <david@...>
To: J. Larry Hendry <jlarryh@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Slightly OT, Pedals? Which one?


It's a 100K pot.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: <chupacba@...>
>Do you know about the Big Briar EP-1 Expression Pedal?