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RE: MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by mate_stubb <mate_stubb@yahoo.com>

Larry, you showed us every view EXCEPT what it would look like from 
the front of the panel!

Moe
>>>>
Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent 
me from the UK. I have no idea of the source.

Front view:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
Side view:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
<<<<

MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry

Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson sent me
from the UK. I have no idea of the source.

Front view:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
Side view:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg

Larry

Re: [motm] RE: MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry

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From: <mate_stubb@...>
Larry, you showed us every view EXCEPT what it would look like from
the front of the panel!

--LH--
Huh??  This is the front.  I'm not drilling a panel up just for a photo
<snicker>
Front view:
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg

Re: MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by sucrosemusic <sucrosemusic@yahoo.com>

I would, of course, have to paint the jack itself, so as to match 
everything else.  Black sharpie?

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson 
sent me
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> 
> Front view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> Side view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> 
> Larry

Re: MIDI panel jack (Deltron/DGS)

2002-12-11 by strohs56k <strohs@eskimo.com>

I used some of these on a project - they are from DGS/Deltron and 
Mouser has some stock.  The nice thing is these mount into a round 
hole with a keying notch.  As you can see in the picture Larry posted, 
these have a long threaded metal body and a hex nut for mounting.  
Installing on a thick panel should not be a problem.  They look pretty 
good as they do not have the "football" ears like most panel mount 
DINs.

Part # 164-2522 for black body
Part # 16HR655 for nickel body

Paul - I definitely think you should order a few to evaluate.  The 
only potential disadvantage is the plastic portion is gray as opposed 
to black - I think this would look fine though.  Black inserts might 
be available as a manufacturing option - but I'm pretty sure the ones 
Mouser stocks are gray.


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson 
sent me
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> 
> Front view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> Side view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> 
> Larry

Re: MIDI panel jack (Deltron/DGS)

2002-12-11 by edibennardo <endiendi@tin.it>

Why don't we all use a custom made cable, (or synthtech can easily 
make it), and use an ordinary 1/4 stereo jack, three poles are enough 
for MIDI IN and looks or mounting won't be a problem.. it might seem 
strange to read "MIDI IN" in a jack plug but, since we are not going 
to patch and repatch these kind of MIDI connections, this solution 
might be very simple.
Enrico     

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "strohs56k <strohs@e...>" <strohs@e...> 
wrote:
> 
> I used some of these on a project - they are from DGS/Deltron and 
> Mouser has some stock.  The nice thing is these mount into a round 
> hole with a keying notch.  As you can see in the picture Larry 
posted, 
> these have a long threaded metal body and a hex nut for mounting.  
> Installing on a thick panel should not be a problem.  They look 
pretty 
> good as they do not have the "football" ears like most panel mount 
> DINs.
> 
> Part # 164-2522 for black body
> Part # 16HR655 for nickel body
> 
> Paul - I definitely think you should order a few to evaluate.  The 
> only potential disadvantage is the plastic portion is gray as 
opposed 
> to black - I think this would look fine though.  Black inserts 
might 
> be available as a manufacturing option - but I'm pretty sure the 
ones 
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> Mouser stocks are gray.
> 
> 
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> > Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson 
> sent me
> > from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> > 
> > Front view:
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> > Side view:
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> > 
> > Larry

[motm] MIDI panel jack - source

2002-12-11 by James Richardson

In message <003301c2a0c3$1cb228e0$51682bd1@oemcomputer>, J. Larry Hendry
<jlarryh@...> writes
>Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson sent me
>from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
>
>Front view:
>http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
>Side view:
>http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
>Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
>http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
>
>Larry

The source was RS Components, part no. 479-692.

The RS catalogue does not identify a manufacturer but describes the
range as "Chassis mounting sockets of professional design with single
hexagonal nut fixing.  Robust single-piece [nickel-plated] brass body
which includes latching slot and locating spigot.  All sockets will mate
with insulated and screened plugs and will latch with latching plugs.
Thread size 5/8 UNF."

Unit cost is 1.74 pounds sterling up to 49 units and 1.65 for 50 or
over.

Cheers

James
-- 
James Richardson

Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack - source

2002-12-11 by Paul Schreiber

> The source was RS Components, part no. 479-692.

Thanks! I'm 99% sure this is the same "professional DIN chassis connector" Mouser sells. Parts
ordered for delivery tomorrow.

Next, I have to see if the sheet metal vendor can mill out the 'keyhole slot' in the .125 panel.
And I don't care if the center molding is not black, there is usually a MIDI cable plugged in
there (unless it's plugged into the back).

Paul S.

Re: [motm] RE: MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by Tentochi

Is it plastic or metal???

Is that Larry or James' thumb?

--Shemp

> >>>>
> Here is one for consideration. This is the one James
> Richardson sent 
> me from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> 
> Front view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> Side view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> <<<<
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


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Re: [motm] RE: MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tentochi <tentochi2003@...>
Is it plastic or metal???

LH:  Metal

Is that Larry or James' thumb?

LH:  Larry's good thumb

Re: MIDI panel jack (Deltron/DGS)

2002-12-11 by strohs56k <strohs@eskimo.com>

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "edibennardo <endiendi@t...>" 
<endiendi@t...> wrote:
> Why don't we all use a custom made cable, (or synthtech can easily 
> make it), and use an ordinary 1/4 stereo jack, three poles are
> enough for MIDI IN and looks or mounting won't be a problem [...]

If it were going to require a "custom" cable, I think the appropriate 
connector is a 5 pin XLR.  (Similar to the type used for microphones 
but with 5 pins instead of 3.)  5 pin XLR are normally used for things 
like RS422 serial data in DMX lighting control systems.  Allegedly, 
some live performers used to replace the 5 pin DIN MIDI jacks on 
synths with XLR due to the locking action of the XLR connector.

However, I think it is best to use the standard DIN type if possible.

Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack

2002-12-11 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr

Although this is a cool mounting idea, I can't say as I like the jack
color of white/cream. Since I will be patching from the back of the
module, I would much prefer to have a bit of silver showing than the
light color of the inside of this jack.

Scott
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"J. Larry Hendry" wrote:
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> 
> Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson sent me
> from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> 
> Front view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> Side view:
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack - source

2002-12-11 by Sikorsky

> The RS catalogue does not identify a manufacturer

hello all,
i've not been reading these posts too closely, but with both my farnell & RS
catalogues in from of me, they look very much like Deltron connectors
manufacturers part nos:

depth 19.3mm / diameter 18mm / panel cut out 16mm / max panel thickness
8.5mm

650-0500 nickel finish
651-0500 black finish
or
690-0500 nickel / pcb mounting - panel mounting nut is optional extra (from
farnell at least)
or
652-0500 / 653-0500 / 692-0500 - rear mounting (nut fixes to front as per
112A jacks) but \ufffd6-8 each !!!

i have some of the 650-0500s on my system - if i remember correctly they
have a perfectly circular mounting hole with a little notch for non-rotation

and if it were up to me i'd prefer the nickel finish to match the nickel
finish of the 112As

cheers
paul b
(would the last horse please close the barn door behind it)

Re: [motm] Re: MIDI panel jack (Deltron/DGS)

2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <strohs@...>
> Allegedly, some live performers used to replace the 5 pin DIN MIDI jacks
on synths with XLR due to the locking action of the XLR connector.

--LH--
If my memory has not gone south, I think the very first Sequencial Circuits
MIDI synth (the Prophet 600) indeed used XLR as the factory installed
connector.  But, I think they used the 3 pin standard XLR since MIDI still
only uses 2 wires plus sheild.

> However, I think it is best to use the standard DIN type if possible.

Oh, I agree 100% - standard 5 pin DIN.  I'd even vote for the Neutrik
football connector over a non-standard connector.

Larry

Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack

2002-12-13 by Paul Schreiber

Whip out the Sharpie.

Paul S.

----- Original Message ----- 
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From: "Scott Evans, Gen Mgr" <esresource@...>
To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack


> Although this is a cool mounting idea, I can't say as I like the jack
> color of white/cream. Since I will be patching from the back of the
> module, I would much prefer to have a bit of silver showing than the
> light color of the inside of this jack.
> 
> Scott
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "J. Larry Hendry" wrote:
> > 
> > Here is one for consideration.  This is the one James Richardson sent me
> > from the UK. I have no idea of the source.
> > 
> > Front view:
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
> > Side view:
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg
> > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round)
> > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
>

Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack

2002-12-13 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr

Paul,

Actually, after having seen the mock up with this MIDI jack installed, I 
have zero compalints! It really looks great, Paul. An order will be 
placed right after the new year.

Regards, Scott
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Paul Schreiber wrote:
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> Whip out the Sharpie.
> 
> Paul S.
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