RE: MIDI panel jack
2002-12-11 by mate_stubb <mate_stubb@yahoo.com>
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2002-12-11 by mate_stubb <mate_stubb@yahoo.com>
Larry, you showed us every view EXCEPT what it would look like from the front of the panel! Moe >>>> Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me from the UK. I have no idea of the source. Front view: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg Side view: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg <<<<
2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry
Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me from the UK. I have no idea of the source. Front view: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg Side view: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg Larry
2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message -----
From: <mate_stubb@...> Larry, you showed us every view EXCEPT what it would look like from the front of the panel! --LH-- Huh?? This is the front. I'm not drilling a panel up just for a photo <snicker> Front view: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg
2002-12-11 by sucrosemusic <sucrosemusic@yahoo.com>
I would, of course, have to paint the jack itself, so as to match everything else. Black sharpie? --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote: > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me
> from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > Front view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > Side view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > > Larry
2002-12-11 by strohs56k <strohs@eskimo.com>
I used some of these on a project - they are from DGS/Deltron and Mouser has some stock. The nice thing is these mount into a round hole with a keying notch. As you can see in the picture Larry posted, these have a long threaded metal body and a hex nut for mounting. Installing on a thick panel should not be a problem. They look pretty good as they do not have the "football" ears like most panel mount DINs. Part # 164-2522 for black body Part # 16HR655 for nickel body Paul - I definitely think you should order a few to evaluate. The only potential disadvantage is the plastic portion is gray as opposed to black - I think this would look fine though. Black inserts might be available as a manufacturing option - but I'm pretty sure the ones Mouser stocks are gray. --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote: > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me
> from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > Front view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > Side view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > > Larry
2002-12-11 by edibennardo <endiendi@tin.it>
Why don't we all use a custom made cable, (or synthtech can easily make it), and use an ordinary 1/4 stereo jack, three poles are enough for MIDI IN and looks or mounting won't be a problem.. it might seem strange to read "MIDI IN" in a jack plug but, since we are not going to patch and repatch these kind of MIDI connections, this solution might be very simple. Enrico --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "strohs56k <strohs@e...>" <strohs@e...> wrote: > > I used some of these on a project - they are from DGS/Deltron and > Mouser has some stock. The nice thing is these mount into a round > hole with a keying notch. As you can see in the picture Larry posted, > these have a long threaded metal body and a hex nut for mounting. > Installing on a thick panel should not be a problem. They look pretty > good as they do not have the "football" ears like most panel mount > DINs. > > Part # 164-2522 for black body > Part # 16HR655 for nickel body > > Paul - I definitely think you should order a few to evaluate. The > only potential disadvantage is the plastic portion is gray as opposed > to black - I think this would look fine though. Black inserts might > be available as a manufacturing option - but I'm pretty sure the ones
> Mouser stocks are gray. > > > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote: > > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson > sent me > > from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > > > Front view: > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > > Side view: > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > > > > Larry
2002-12-11 by James Richardson
In message <003301c2a0c3$1cb228e0$51682bd1@oemcomputer>, J. Larry Hendry <jlarryh@...> writes >Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me >from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > >Front view: >http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg >Side view: >http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg >Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) >http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > >Larry The source was RS Components, part no. 479-692. The RS catalogue does not identify a manufacturer but describes the range as "Chassis mounting sockets of professional design with single hexagonal nut fixing. Robust single-piece [nickel-plated] brass body which includes latching slot and locating spigot. All sockets will mate with insulated and screened plugs and will latch with latching plugs. Thread size 5/8 UNF." Unit cost is 1.74 pounds sterling up to 49 units and 1.65 for 50 or over. Cheers James -- James Richardson
2002-12-11 by Paul Schreiber
> The source was RS Components, part no. 479-692. Thanks! I'm 99% sure this is the same "professional DIN chassis connector" Mouser sells. Parts ordered for delivery tomorrow. Next, I have to see if the sheet metal vendor can mill out the 'keyhole slot' in the .125 panel. And I don't care if the center molding is not black, there is usually a MIDI cable plugged in there (unless it's plugged into the back). Paul S.
2002-12-11 by Tentochi
Is it plastic or metal??? Is that Larry or James' thumb? --Shemp > >>>> > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James > Richardson sent > me from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > Front view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > Side view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > <<<< > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message ----- From: Tentochi <tentochi2003@...> Is it plastic or metal??? LH: Metal Is that Larry or James' thumb? LH: Larry's good thumb
2002-12-11 by strohs56k <strohs@eskimo.com>
--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "edibennardo <endiendi@t...>" <endiendi@t...> wrote: > Why don't we all use a custom made cable, (or synthtech can easily > make it), and use an ordinary 1/4 stereo jack, three poles are > enough for MIDI IN and looks or mounting won't be a problem [...] If it were going to require a "custom" cable, I think the appropriate connector is a 5 pin XLR. (Similar to the type used for microphones but with 5 pins instead of 3.) 5 pin XLR are normally used for things like RS422 serial data in DMX lighting control systems. Allegedly, some live performers used to replace the 5 pin DIN MIDI jacks on synths with XLR due to the locking action of the XLR connector. However, I think it is best to use the standard DIN type if possible.
2002-12-11 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr
Although this is a cool mounting idea, I can't say as I like the jack color of white/cream. Since I will be patching from the back of the module, I would much prefer to have a bit of silver showing than the light color of the inside of this jack. Scott ------------------------------------------------------------ "J. Larry Hendry" wrote:
> > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me > from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > Front view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > Side view: > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > > Larry > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-12-11 by Sikorsky
> The RS catalogue does not identify a manufacturer hello all, i've not been reading these posts too closely, but with both my farnell & RS catalogues in from of me, they look very much like Deltron connectors manufacturers part nos: depth 19.3mm / diameter 18mm / panel cut out 16mm / max panel thickness 8.5mm 650-0500 nickel finish 651-0500 black finish or 690-0500 nickel / pcb mounting - panel mounting nut is optional extra (from farnell at least) or 652-0500 / 653-0500 / 692-0500 - rear mounting (nut fixes to front as per 112A jacks) but \ufffd6-8 each !!! i have some of the 650-0500s on my system - if i remember correctly they have a perfectly circular mounting hole with a little notch for non-rotation and if it were up to me i'd prefer the nickel finish to match the nickel finish of the 112As cheers paul b (would the last horse please close the barn door behind it)
2002-12-11 by J. Larry Hendry
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <strohs@...> > Allegedly, some live performers used to replace the 5 pin DIN MIDI jacks on synths with XLR due to the locking action of the XLR connector. --LH-- If my memory has not gone south, I think the very first Sequencial Circuits MIDI synth (the Prophet 600) indeed used XLR as the factory installed connector. But, I think they used the 3 pin standard XLR since MIDI still only uses 2 wires plus sheild. > However, I think it is best to use the standard DIN type if possible. Oh, I agree 100% - standard 5 pin DIN. I'd even vote for the Neutrik football connector over a non-standard connector. Larry
2002-12-13 by Paul Schreiber
Whip out the Sharpie. Paul S. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Evans, Gen Mgr" <esresource@...> To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [motm] MIDI panel jack > Although this is a cool mounting idea, I can't say as I like the jack > color of white/cream. Since I will be patching from the back of the > module, I would much prefer to have a bit of silver showing than the > light color of the inside of this jack. > > Scott > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "J. Larry Hendry" wrote: > > > > Here is one for consideration. This is the one James Richardson sent me > > from the UK. I have no idea of the source. > > > > Front view: > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/front.jpg > > Side view: > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/side.jpg > > Anti-rotation stop (i.e. hole not exactly round) > > http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/misc/stop.jpg > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-12-13 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr
Paul, Actually, after having seen the mock up with this MIDI jack installed, I have zero compalints! It really looks great, Paul. An order will be placed right after the new year. Regards, Scott ------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schreiber wrote:
> Whip out the Sharpie. > > Paul S. >