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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation (screed alert)

2007-04-06 by Ingo Zobel

> your designs. A few posts back you unceremoniously dropped the > Envelooper. > Meanwhile a lot of us here where thinking it was going to be one of > the next > modules! And a lot of us (including me) were more than willing to buy > at > least one. i totally agree with that. i d

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Re: for our pleasure

2007-04-06 by stefanbonnet

The price of the 300's does make them less accessible to most of us..(as a reference, one module costs more than what I have to monthly pay not to be homeless, which is already half my income...), but from my experience with the 1200's, and given the added fonctions, I don't thin

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Re: [wiardgroup] for our pleasure

2007-04-06 by amnesia

This sounds amazing :-) I wish I hadn't heard that I am struggling to get the money together for 6 modules :-)...but if this ever comes out I will have to get a second job or sell one of my kids :-) One thing that I am not sure about is when Grant mentioned that the Buchla 200e h

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation (screed alert)

2007-04-06 by John

Thanks Doc, I appreciate it. This is my last mail on the subject. Basically I217;m totally confused by Grant\u2019s current approach. BUT... That\u2019;s not saying it\u2019s a bad approach or Grant is a bad guy, etc... I simply assumed that the \u201cfull production\u201d announ

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for our pleasure

2007-04-06 by kursk53704

There are two people that I worship: Noam Chomsky and Brian Eno. I serve many: my family and friends and my many students (I teach history in a Madison, Wisconsin HS). I'm an avid reader, I worry for my kids, I love my wife, etc, etc. But I do have to say that, aside from my love

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Re: WaveformCity vs VCO

2007-04-05 by Gary Chang

The VCO (and WC) is the reason that I invested in such a large Wiard system - I wanted a 10 oscillator system, akin to the Buchla 200 systems that I worked on in the past. I have Serge VCOs - they are very good, but not at all like the Wiard VCOs. Coming from the Buchla pedigree,

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Re: [wiardgroup] Waveform City Roms

2007-04-05 by plord@there.org

cray5656 wrote: > Has anyone used these ROMs with the WC? I have not used these with a WC yet, but I have used a few of them in a Miniwave. Also, I've used the Waveform City ROM in a Miniwave, so I can confirm that they are cross-compatible. Unless I am mistaken, Vowels isn't cur

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Re: Waveform City Roms

2007-04-05 by paradigmshiftbeats

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" wrote: > > Has anyone used these ROMs with the WC? > ROM 1: Bosch Gardens > ROM 2: Vowels > ROM 3: Morphine > ROM 4: Scale Quantizer I own the Morphine and Scale Quantizer ROMs, used in a Miniwave. Matthew's Morphine ROM is my favorit

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Waveform City Roms

2007-04-05 by cray5656

Has anyone used these ROMs with the WC? ROM 1: Bosch Gardens - a useful collection of alternate waves. Some banks >are intentionally disjoint and others share common harmonic structures. One >bank is designed for simple drones and brings in subtle harmonics. > >ROM 2: Vowels - mo

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation (screed alert)

2007-04-05 by drmabuce

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Chang" wrote: > > Enough of this hangling, gentlemen! > WHAT!!!!!!???? and give up show biz????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;'> Hi all, i was really interested in where this discussion would go if the old same 'f.o.g.'s (friends of

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Re: WaveformCity

2007-04-05 by Grant Richter

> The WC offers the same oscillator core as the Classic VCO, plus the 8-bit waveshaper. It has the same sweet sine, triangle, and sawtooth waves; it offers linear FM (though without the dedicated attenuator); and you can get a form of PWM using certain wavetables, so in many ways

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-05 by watson

what i mean is, if you are aware that Wiard exists as a company then you know it is a boutique company and you are aware of the ballpark price of the units. just like in hifi audio, a lot of time prices are not listed for certain smaller companys and if you know they exist then y

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Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-05 by ach_gott

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" wrote: > > I didn't get any feedback on the Envelooper idea, so I just dropped it. All I can do is try out > ideas and see if anyone is interested. If no one is, there is no sense pursuing it. That is > why I have 30 different pr

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-05 by Gary Chang

Enough of this hangling, gentlemen! I am not the expert on Grant's whereabouts - he lives in Wisconsin, I live in California. I do consider myself to be 'a good friend' of Grant's, however - this is something that I am very proud to be. There is no need to be critical here - I am

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Re: [wiardgroup] WaveformCity

2007-04-05 by Chris Sawyer

Given what you have, I would definitely recommend the Waveform City as your first Wiard oscillator, but you might want to defer your decision on the second one until you have put some time in with the WC. The WC offers the same oscillator core as the Classic VCO, plus the 8-bit w

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-05 by John

You totally missed the premise of my post. I guess it was over your head? I\u2019ve been a Wiard 300 customer since around the year 2000. I think I know what I\u2019m talking about when it comes to that. I don\u2019t know what you\u2019re getting at when you say \u201cif you are

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-05 by John

On 4/4/07 2:01 PM, "plord@there.org" wrote: Grant's entitled to his own business practices. If you want a one-man modular company to be run according to your tastes, then start one. regards, Paul I already happen to own 300 series modules + 1200. If you read the end of my email y

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Re: WaveformCity

2007-04-05 by drmabuce

Hi cray --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" wrote: > > Not owning a Waveform City I have been listening to the Nord synths > and wondered if the Waveform City sounded like that...or what can you > compare its sound to? > i own 2 nords and 3 Wiard VCDO's (in various form

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WaveformCity

2007-04-05 by cray5656

Not owning a Waveform City I have been listening to the Nord synths and wondered if the Waveform City sounded like that...or what can you compare its sound to? Owning a Serge VC0s and a Plan B VCO I am thinking about maybe skipping the Classic VCO to get 2 Waveform Cities, or is

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Re: [wiardgroup] the frame does it unscrew flat for easy postage?

2007-04-05 by Chris Sawyer

Yes. The one I bought used was shipped to me in a poster tube. ----- Original Message ----- From: amnesia To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: [wiardgroup] the frame does it unscrew flat for easy postage? The frame is it unscrewable for

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by watson

quote from john: No disrespect to Grant or Wiard. I support both. Just call it what it is. BTW, by announcing "full production" and then having to call to receive a price(which is probably a high one at that) only FUELS speculators and definitely keeps the modules out of the hand

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by Chris Sawyer

As someone who has been buying 300 series modules over the past year and several months, I can wholeheartedly support Paul's claims. Despite Grant's best efforts, orders for many parts have taken weeks or months longer than anticipated to replenish stock. Add to this that many of

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Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-04 by stefanbonnet

> I didn't get any feedback on the Envelooper idea, so I just dropped it. All I can do is try out > ideas and see if anyone is interested. If no one is, there is no sense pursuing it. I wouldn't say you shouldn't pursue this design, I was a bit worried about some functionnal rest

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by Grant Richter

Hi Paul, Thank you for coming to my defense. People mean well, but they have no idea how things actually get done. It is easy to assume that making anything is like making anything else. But this is a wrong idea. The size of the marketplace determines everything because vendors h

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by plord@there.org

Would y'all mind not pissing off the manufacturer until AFTER I get my system? Thanks! The primary difference between now and 4 or 6 months ago is that 4 months ago Grant *had none of the parts in stock* for many of the modules. No Envelator boards or components, for example, ver

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Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-04 by Grant Richter

Hi Paul, > Following up on our conversation of a few weeks ago, and this note from > you on the 22nd, should I expect a shipping notice for the Sequantizers > this week? Ouch! Yes, you got me. I really try to be good to my word, but sometimes I slip up. The Sequentizers have been

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by John

Bill I think you\u2019re right. From what Grant just posted I don\u2019t see a difference in the availability of the 300 series 6 months ago as compared to it being \u201cback in full production\u201d today. I guess I\u2019m kind of disappointed. I don\u2019t know why Grant would

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-04 by Grant Richter

Possibly a typo, those are bowing marks, not "blowing" marks... --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Carrigan wrote: > > > On Apr 3, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: > > >> Don't be fooled, they are trying to > >> sell you a trumpet, when you wanted a violin. > > > > Is t

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Bryan Carrigan

On Apr 3, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: >> Don't be fooled, they are trying to >> sell you a trumpet, when you wanted a violin. > > Is this why I have trouble getting rosin off my lips? that, or you're in love with a pine tree...

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-03 by plord@there.org

Grant Richter wrote: > The faceplates are being silkscreened now. > Just got Woggle Bug PCBs, rest of PCBs still on order. > Waiting for Perkins-Elmer Vactrols. Hi Grant, Following up on our conversation of a few weeks ago, and this note from you on the 22nd, should I expect a sh

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Eyesaw

Hi Grant: So I assume there was some "barrier" to purchase, whatever that may have been (Delivery time, ?) that allowed people to buy at retail and turn for a 56% profit to someone who either could not or did not try to buy from you. Very interesting - I certainly believe it but

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Eyesaw

Hi Mathew - In no way would I characterize you or your sale as exploitation. Hell, those Fenix prices are obscene - but, what can you do? I was simply pointing out that your instrument had a high degree of collectability (#1 - intrinsic value). It is understandable that when one

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Grant Richter

> I still do not see anyone providing info that proves the escalation happened before production ceased. Anyone? Remember the Fenix? Production never ceased. "Call" means "Call on the telephone". I think people are confused by the fact that I don't shill Wiard like everybody else

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Grant Richter

> Did this exploitation of your product occur during the 300 series production or after the modules were discontinued? I understand wait times and all but how could there have been a premium while the units were still available retail? There were two people buying modules at $479

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Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-03 by Grant Richter

Wiard in located in the central time zone of the US (on the 88th meridian). Same time zone as Chicago. --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Griffiths wrote: > > Hi Grant, for non US people can you tell us what time zone you are in (maybe the principal city of that time zone) s

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-03 by Sam Ecoff

On Apr 3, 2007, at 3:57 AM, Mark Griffiths wrote: Hi Grant, for non US people can you tell us what time zone you are in (maybe the principal city of that time zone) so I can call you during the day? regards, Mark I believe we're -05:00 GMT (at the moment). Anyways, Milwaukee, WI.

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Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by mritenburg

With all due respect to Grant's concerns about instrument speculators, I sold my 300 with great pain (along with an Arp 2600, .Com, and a wall of Doepfer) to cover the cost of a my Buchla 200e. I would really not like to be characterized as having exploited Wiard or Grant. > As I

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... $ Exploitation

2007-04-03 by Eyesaw

Hello Grant and Wiard Folks: Did this exploitation of your product occur during the 300 series production or after the modules were discontinued? I understand wait times and all but how could there have been a premium while the units were still available retail? Anytime a product

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-03 by Mark Griffiths

Hi Grant, for non US people can you tell us what time zone you are in (maybe the principal city of that time zone) so I can call you during the day? regards, Mark Grant Richter wrote: There have been problems in the past with speculators buying these instruments for resale at a l

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Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-04-03 by Grant Richter

There have been problems in the past with speculators buying these instruments for resale at a later date. Since my goal is to get them in to the hands of working musicians and not instrument speculators, I now handle all 300 series sales by telephone only. Yoou can call me at 41

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... What's Going On?

2007-03-31 by John

This is great news about the faceplates and Woggle PCB217;s but what I\u2019m getting at (and what I think the other 99% of the list wants to know) is when will the availability and price be posted? A previous post said \u201cBack in Full Production\u201d so I assume the above in

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Re: [wiardgroup] Unwrap Lines

2007-03-31 by Andre Majorel

On 2007-03-25 21:05 -0000, Grant Richter wrote: > For whatever reason Yahoo does funky line wrapping. All of the > posts seem a lot easier to read if you go over to the right hand > side of the sceen, click on "Show message option" then click on > "Unwrap lines". > > Either that

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: current draw of GR-1210A Noise Ring module?

2007-03-31 by Bakis Sirros

any help? Grant? thank you, best regards, Bakis. --- damon wrote: > neither of which make any sense at all > > On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:10 AM, mrboningen wrote: > > > a quick search in the search bar (above the posts) > for "current draw" > > suggests the following posts: > > > > 1

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Re: current draw of GR-1210A Noise Ring module?

2007-03-31 by mrboningen

which part of: "Current draw of the modules varies. Joysticks draw about 25 ma. Everything else is less than 100 ma. per module." makes no sense to you? --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, damon wrote: > > neither of which make any sense at all > > On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:10 AM, mr

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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: current draw of GR-1210A Noise Ring module?

2007-03-30 by damon

neither of which make any sense at all On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:10 AM, mrboningen wrote: a quick search in the search bar (above the posts) for "current draw" suggests the following posts: 1797 2379 --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com , Bakis Sirros 2000@...> wrote: > > hello list,

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