200e

249e doesn't respond to midi clock does it, have I missed a firmware  
update?


On 13 Feb 2007, at 13:34, Sandep Rahi wrote:

> I am looking to put together a small hardware live performance setup
> with the 200e and a "loop sampler" (I want to get away from max /
> laptop stuff) After looking at some options I REALLY like the  
> Roland SP-
> 404 and it seems perfect for my application, one problem it only has
> midi IN. I cannot send clock to the 200e (250e / 249e).
>
> Does b&a plan to implement midi out at some point?
>
> Does anyone know of a 'live' loop sampler I can sync with the 200e. (i
> am NOT looking for a drum machine....i mostly want to sample live out
> of the 200e) (easy to use and NO computer) I have been out of the
> hardware 'scene'for years . . .and getting back into it...well because
> the 200e is so much fun!
>
> thanks!
> Sandep Rahi
>
>
> 



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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Stewart Moroney wrote:

> 249e doesn't respond to midi clock does it, have I missed a firmware
> update?

sorry, so the 249e doesn't send _or_ receive clock? is this the same for
the 250e as well?

-jon


"There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees
of difference and no difference."
- James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.

since there's some speculation, hey

neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but this is
on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development will be
slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.

MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out but it's a
fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.

-e zr  a b

On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@divisionbyzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Stewart Moroney wrote:
>
>  > 249e doesn't respond to midi clock does it, have I missed a firmware
>  > update?
>
>  sorry, so the 249e doesn't send _or_ receive clock? is this the same for
>  the 250e as well?
>
>  -jon
>
>  "There are no differences but differences of degree between different
> degrees
>  of difference and no difference."
>  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.
>

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:

> since there's some speculation, hey
>
> neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but this is
> on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
> firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development will be
> slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
>
> MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
> don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out but it's a
> fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.

hi ezra/everyone,

how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?

thanks,

-jon

"There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees
of difference and no difference."
- James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.

with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
in particular already has a bpm data structure...).

you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
(>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
and the 200e share a ground.

as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.

-eb

On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@divisionbyzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
>
>  > since there's some speculation, hey
>  >
>  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but this is
>  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
>  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development will be
>  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
>  >
>  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
>  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out but it's a
>  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
>
>  hi ezra/everyone,
>
>  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
>
>  thanks,
>
>  -jon
>
>  "There are no differences but differences of degree between different
> degrees
>  of difference and no difference."
>  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.
>

I personally use this option.

I send a click out to a dedicated output on my soundcard from logic pro into the 227e.
I use the program's audio click, since it makes it easier to choose the click subdivision 
right form the arrange window(quarter,8th,etc), but you could set up a dedicated audio 
track if you'd like.
You'll need to play a little with the click volume/tone in order for the envelope to translate 
it to a constant pulse, but it's a quick tweak.

AC




> you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
> (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
> and the 200e share a ground.
> 
 hi ezra/everyone,

> >
> >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
> >
> >  thanks,
> >
> >  -jon
> >

Hey y'all,

Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the 250e stage selection 
behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to advance the sequencer one 
stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the adv/sust/enble/stop functions are 
selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse arrives at start/adv, the 
internal clock begins advancing as well...

Thanks much

John


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@...> wrote:

>
> with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
> clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
> lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
> incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
> syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
> in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
> 
> you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
> (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
> and the 200e share a ground.
> 
> as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
> interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
> individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
> requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
> 
> -eb
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
> >
> >  > since there's some speculation, hey
> >  >
> >  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but this is
> >  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
> >  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development will be
> >  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
> >  >
> >  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
> >  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out but it's a
> >  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
> >
> >  hi ezra/everyone,
> >
> >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
> >
> >  thanks,
> >
> >  -jon
> >
> >  "There are no differences but differences of degree between different
> > degrees
> >  of difference and no difference."
> >  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.
> >
>

Hey John,

Insert stops into stages for which you don't want the internal clock to function.  Blanks don't quite do it.

Don

soma_studios <john@somastudios.com> wrote: Hey y'all,

Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the 250e stage selection 
behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to advance the sequencer one 
stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the adv/sust/enble/stop functions are 
selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse arrives at start/adv, the 
internal clock begins advancing as well...

Thanks much

John


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla"  wrote:
>
> with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
> clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
> lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
> incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
> syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
> in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
> 
> you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
> (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
> and the 200e share a ground.
> 
> as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
> interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
> individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
> requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
> 
> -eb
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/14/07, jon schatz  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
> >
> >  > since there's some speculation, hey
> >  >
> >  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but this is
> >  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
> >  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development will be
> >  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
> >  >
> >  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
> >  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out but it's a
> >  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
> >
> >  hi ezra/everyone,
> >
> >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
> >
> >  thanks,
> >
> >  -jon
> >
> >  "There are no differences but differences of degree between different
> > degrees
> >  of difference and no difference."
> >  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; Vol 7.
> >
>




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So if you set the 250e to Advance mode and apply a pulse at the
Start/Advance input, the sequencer will advance to the next stage
every time it receives a pulse, regardless of any time setting you
have set.  I don't have it in front of me but that "should" be the
"default" setting on the 250e, ya?
--tom


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "soma_studios" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Hey y'all,
> 
> Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the
250e stage selection 
> behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to
advance the sequencer one 
> stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the
adv/sust/enble/stop functions are 
> selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse
arrives at start/adv, the 
> internal clock begins advancing as well...
> 
> Thanks much
> 
> John
> 
> 
> --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@> wrote:
> >
> > with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
> > clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
> > lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
> > incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
> > syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
> > in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
> > 
> > you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
> > (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
> > and the 200e share a ground.
> > 
> > as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
> > interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
> > individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
> > requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
> > 
> > -eb
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
> > >
> > >  > since there's some speculation, hey
> > >  >
> > >  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but
this is
> > >  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
> > >  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development
will be
> > >  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
> > >  >
> > >  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
> > >  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out
but it's a
> > >  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
> > >
> > >  hi ezra/everyone,
> > >
> > >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
> > >
> > >  thanks,
> > >
> > >  -jon
> > >
> > >  "There are no differences but differences of degree between
different
> > > degrees
> > >  of difference and no difference."
> > >  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind.
1882; Vol 7.

> > >
> >
>

no, set the steps for stop if you wish to advance by external pulses
(not using the internal clock)

2008/3/27, tmeade1974 <tmeade1974@yahoo.com>:

> So if you set the 250e to Advance mode and apply a pulse at the
>  Start/Advance input, the sequencer will advance to the next stage
>  every time it receives a pulse, regardless of any time setting you
>  have set.  I don't have it in front of me but that "should" be the
>  "default" setting on the 250e, ya?
>  --tom
>
>
>
>  --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "soma_studios" <john@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hey y'all,
>  >
>  > Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the
>  250e stage selection
>  > behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to
>  advance the sequencer one
>  > stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the
>  adv/sust/enble/stop functions are
>  > selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse
>  arrives at start/adv, the
>  > internal clock begins advancing as well...
>  >
>  > Thanks much
>  >
>  > John
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
>  > > clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
>  > > lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
>  > > incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
>  > > syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
>  > > in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
>  > >
>  > > you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
>  > > (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
>  > > and the 200e share a ground.
>  > >
>  > > as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
>  > > interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
>  > > individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
>  > > requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
>  > >
>  > > -eb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >  > since there's some speculation, hey
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but
>  this is
>  > > >  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
>  > > >  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development
>  will be
>  > > >  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
>  > > >  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out
>  but it's a
>  > > >  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
>  > > >
>  > > >  hi ezra/everyone,
>  > > >
>  > > >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
>  > > >
>  > > >  thanks,
>  > > >
>  > > >  -jon
>  > > >
>  > > >  "There are no differences but differences of degree between
>  different
>  > > > degrees
>  > > >  of difference and no difference."
>  > > >  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind.
>  1882; Vol 7.
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
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>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

sorry, yeah i said that wrong originally, "advance" mode is not the
appropriate one, "stop" mode is.

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM, JB <ringmodulator@gmail.com> wrote:

>   no, set the steps for stop if you wish to advance by external pulses
> (not using the internal clock)
>
> 2008/3/27, tmeade1974 <tmeade1974@yahoo.com <tmeade1974%40yahoo.com>>:
>
> > So if you set the 250e to Advance mode and apply a pulse at the
> > Start/Advance input, the sequencer will advance to the next stage
> > every time it receives a pulse, regardless of any time setting you
> > have set. I don't have it in front of me but that "should" be the
> > "default" setting on the 250e, ya?
> > --tom
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, "soma_studios"
> <john@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey y'all,
> > >
> > > Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the
> > 250e stage selection
> > > behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to
> > advance the sequencer one
> > > stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the
> > adv/sust/enble/stop functions are
> > > selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse
> > arrives at start/adv, the
> > > internal clock begins advancing as well...
> > >
> > > Thanks much
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, "ezra buchla" <
> ezra.buchla@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
> > > > clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
> > > > lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics
> w/r/t
> > > > incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
> > > > syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the
> 249e
> > > > in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
> > > >
> > > > you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
> > > > (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
> > > > and the 200e share a ground.
> > > >
> > > > as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
> > > > interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
> > > > individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
> > > > requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
> > > >
> > > > -eb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > since there's some speculation, hey
> > > > > >
> > > > > > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but
> > this is
> > > > > > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
> > > > > > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development
> > will be
> > > > > > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it);
> i
> > > > > > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out
> > but it's a
> > > > > > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > hi ezra/everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > -jon
> > > > >
> > > > > "There are no differences but differences of degree between
> > different
> > > > > degrees
> > > > > of difference and no difference."
> > > > > - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind.
> > 1882; Vol 7.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  
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oh, now i understand what you mean (sorry for being slow, its late here)
As far as i can recall it advances at a pulse regardless of time
setting in advance mode. good night.

2008/3/27, tmeade1974 <tmeade1974@yahoo.com>:

> So if you set the 250e to Advance mode and apply a pulse at the
>  Start/Advance input, the sequencer will advance to the next stage
>  every time it receives a pulse, regardless of any time setting you
>  have set.  I don't have it in front of me but that "should" be the
>  "default" setting on the 250e, ya?
>  --tom
>
>
>
>  --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "soma_studios" <john@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hey y'all,
>  >
>  > Forgive the noob question, but I'm trying to get my head around the
>  250e stage selection
>  > behavior... From what I gather below, it should be possible to
>  advance the sequencer one
>  > stage per incoming clock pulse (assuming none of the
>  adv/sust/enble/stop functions are
>  > selected for that stage), or no? It seems that whenever a pulse
>  arrives at start/adv, the
>  > internal clock begins advancing as well...
>  >
>  > Thanks much
>  >
>  > John
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > with midi, you can use the pulse outputs from the 225 note busses to
>  > > clock the 249e, 250e, or 291e in "advance" mode. i've used this a
>  > > lot... since each stage of each sequencer can be assigned logics w/r/t
>  > > incoming pulses, this allows for much richer behavior than just
>  > > syncing to a clock (which, again, we still plan to implement; the 249e
>  > > in particular already has a bpm data structure...).
>  > >
>  > > you could also use an analog pulse as a clock. any voltage with a
>  > > (>=10v) -> (<10v) transition will work as long as the voltage source
>  > > and the 200e share a ground.
>  > >
>  > > as for midi out, we're working on it and considering different
>  > > interface options. the strongest idea so far is to be able to
>  > > individually assign 225 busses to input or output CV, but this
>  > > requires some new GUI programmming. the wiring is all there already.
>  > >
>  > > -eb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On 2/14/07, jon schatz <jon@> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, ezra buchla wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >  > since there's some speculation, hey
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > neither 200e sequencers currently respond to midi clock, but
>  this is
>  > > >  > on the intended feature list for both. (i think that means the
>  > > >  > firmware is technically "alpha.") 249e firmware development
>  will be
>  > > >  > slower since there won't be any more of the hardware.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > MIDI out is another intended feature (the 225 is sired for it); i
>  > > >  > don't think any of us has specifically considered clock out
>  but it's a
>  > > >  > fine idea and it could be done if there's enough interest.
>  > > >
>  > > >  hi ezra/everyone,
>  > > >
>  > > >  how do you sync up your sequencers to external gear?
>  > > >
>  > > >  thanks,
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>  > > >  -jon
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>  > > >  "There are no differences but differences of degree between
>  different
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>  > > >  of difference and no difference."
>  > > >  - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind.
>  1882; Vol 7.
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