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Can anyone give me some directions on programming fairly realistic
violin, cello and contrabass patches?

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "jonnywahahaa" <michael.dhondt@g...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me some directions on programming fairly realistic
> violin, cello and contrabass patches?
>

I've never felt synthesizers were suited to 'realistic' orchestral patches. This type of 
emulation is best suited to ROMplers and Samplers - either hardware or software. You 
might want to check out SampleTank Free or Plugsound free if money is tight, otherwise a 
Roland JV/XV series box can be had for a song on eBay.

That said, check the Files section here at Yahoo! Groups and navigate to the Tips & Tricks 
directory where you will find a past 'how to' article "How To Program Synth Strings" which 
might point you in the right direction.

HTH

Jon

Jon wrote:
> I've never felt synthesizers were suited to 'realistic' orchestral patches. This type of 
> emulation is best suited to ROMplers and Samplers - either hardware or software. You 
> might want to check out SampleTank Free or Plugsound free if money is tight, otherwise a 
> Roland JV/XV series box can be had for a song on eBay.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
>   
Indeed, a JV-1010 or, better, a 2080 are very cheap, sound mint and are 
great for meat and potatoes.
If you have nothing for coin, the Alesis S4+ is cheaper than the 1010, I 
believe, and you can even use your own samples by writing them to pcmcia 
cards.  I find its control surface crap compared to the 2080 and not as 
instant as the 1010.  The 1010 doesn't really have a control surface, 
just knobs. :P

D

Look in an1x voices folder in files. I uploaded a bank 
called "Brass&Pad2.an1". Patch #15, "Cello Edge", is a good cello 
sound, especially with a bit of chorus added. You might be able to 
tweak this patch into a contrabass or violin. A few good Brass patches 
in this bank also. I can't remember where I found it; I don't think it 
was here though...thanks to whoever did 
these!                                                                 
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Steve                                                                  
                                                                       
 --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "jonnywahahaa" 
<michael.dhondt@g...> wrote:

>
> Can anyone give me some directions on programming fairly realistic
> violin, cello and contrabass patches?
>

Hey Steve 

Do you think the contrabass and be twisted into Godzilla?  ;-)

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: uralmoto2001 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:44 PM
  Subject: [AN1x] Re: programming "realistic" orchestra patches


  Look in an1x voices folder in files. I uploaded a bank 
  called "Brass&Pad2.an1". Patch #15, "Cello Edge", is a good cello 
  sound, especially with a bit of chorus added. You might be able to 
  tweak this patch into a contrabass or violin. A few good Brass patches 
  in this bank also. I can't remember where I found it; I don't think it 
  was here though...thanks to whoever did 
  these!                                                                 
  ---
  Steve 

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> Hey Steve 
> 
> Do you think the contrabass and be twisted into Godzilla?  ;-)
> dale
>
> dale@...
> Lancaster CA

Ok Dale, how many beers contributed to this post?

eee - Edward Edwards

None, you mean to tell me you did not know how that sound was made? ;-)

dale
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Edwards 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:00 PM
  Subject: RE: [AN1x] Re: programming "realistic" orchestra patches


  > Hey Steve 
  > 
  > Do you think the contrabass and be twisted into Godzilla?  ;-)
  > dale
  >
  > dale@...
  > Lancaster CA

  Ok Dale, how many beers contributed to this post?

  eee - Edward Edwards

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Here is the reference and link to enjoy....

"The film's music composer, Akira Ifukube, provided a memorable score, along with the sound of Godzilla's savage, otherworldly roar. "Originally, the sound department was trying to use the sounds of elephants, lions and eagles, but none of these recordings turned out to be useful," says Ifukube, 89. "So I proposed the idea to use the sound of a contrabass, which has a very deep tone. To make the sound more complex, I rubbed the strings with a leather glove. The sound was electronically processed, and that's how Godzilla's voice was created." "

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/05/02/PKGO46C2GD1.DTL&type=movies

Would be rather cool if Steve could pull this off.... he is very clever with some of his patches ...

I remember this from a Documentary I saw long ago. Many confuse the cello for a contrabass but the documentary did show a contrabass in use with the sound being made. Oh well... 

dale


  None, you mean to tell me you did not know how that sound was made? ;-)

  dale

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ed Edwards 
    To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:00 PM
    Subject: RE: [AN1x] Re: programming "realistic" orchestra patches


    > Hey Steve 
    > 
    > Do you think the contrabass and be twisted into Godzilla?  ;-)
    > dale
    >
    > dale@...
    > Lancaster CA

    Ok Dale, how many beers contributed to this post?

    eee - Edward Edwards

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The shark music from "Jaws" would be much easier ;-)  That "cello 
edge" patch was one of a dozen or so an1x patches I copied on the 
Ion. Later I found a Micron preset(the Yo-Yo Ma's) that was closer to 
a real cello. I was going to copy more an1x patches over to Ion, but 
there are too many differences between the two. Quite a few an1x 
patches use hard sync/FM at same time. An1x has same osc serving as 
sync master and FM modulator; this cannot be done on Ion, which is 
also missing the osc "edge" parameter. I have the plg150an, and I'm 
constantly suprised how versatile it can be... best $240. I ever 
spent.                                                               -
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Steve                                                                 
                                                                      
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Kay" <admin@k...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve 
> 
> Do you think the contrabass and be twisted into Godzilla?  ;-)
> 
> dale

>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: uralmoto2001 
 
>   Look in an1x voices folder in files. I uploaded a bank 
>   called "Brass&Pad2.an1". Patch #15, "Cello Edge", is a good cello 
>   sound, especially with a bit of chorus added. You might be able 
to 
>   tweak this patch into a contrabass or violin. A few good Brass 
patches 
>   in this bank also. I can't remember where I found it; I don't 
think it 
>   was here though...thanks to whoever did 
>   
these!                                                                
 
>  - Steve

yep
the an200 I have works very well for me for those needs...
just need to get more tight with the editor to make saving things a bit easier on my end...
<the dx200 isn't bad to use either> ;-)

dale
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: uralmoto2001 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:19 AM
  Subject: [AN1x] Re: programming "realistic" orchestra patches


  The shark music from "Jaws" would be much easier ;-)  That "cello 
  edge" patch was one of a dozen or so an1x patches I copied on the 
  Ion. Later I found a Micron preset(the Yo-Yo Ma's) that was closer to 
  a real cello. I was going to copy more an1x patches over to Ion, but 
  there are too many differences between the two. Quite a few an1x 
  patches use hard sync/FM at same time. An1x has same osc serving as 
  sync master and FM modulator; this cannot be done on Ion, which is 
  also missing the osc "edge" parameter. I have the plg150an, and I'm 
  constantly suprised how versatile it can be... best $240. I ever 
  spent.                                                               -
  --
  Steve 

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That cello edge patch is really good, thx.