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CZ3000

2011-11-19 by Mike Ward

Hello all, I need a little help. I have a CZ3000 that I haven't used in a
while. It used to be able to save to the RA-3 cartridge that I had in it. 
I'm trying to save off the internal Timbre's to a cartridge. I have 5 RA-3
cartridges. I press the cartridge key and it asks me cartridge save or load?
I then respond save and is asks me bank A,B (Y/N)? So I respond Yes and it
looks like it's writing to the cartridge after a couple of seconds the
display says Bank A,B OK. I check it by pushing the memory Bank A key then
the 1, but it just says memory A1, or A2, or A3 etc.... and no sound, like
nothing was written to it. I have tried several cartridges and no luck. Can
anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have checked the batteries in the
cartridges with a volt ohm meter. They appear ok. I replaced one of the
batteries and I still get the same results. I haven't abused it, I just let
it sit for a few months and now I can't seem to write to the cartridges. Any
help appreciated. Is there a factory reset I can do?

 

Thanks.

 



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Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2011-11-19 by Daniel Forró

Sorry to say so obvious thing but are you sure there are some data in  
banks A and B? I write this because I had similar problem with  
CZ3000. There's backup battery in my machine, but after some longer  
time when it's not used its internal memory is erased...

Daniel Forro
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On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I need a little help. I have a CZ3000 that I haven't  
> used in a
> while. It used to be able to save to the RA-3 cartridge that I had  
> in it.
> I'm trying to save off the internal Timbre's to a cartridge. I have  
> 5 RA-3
> cartridges. I press the cartridge key and it asks me cartridge save  
> or load?
> I then respond save and is asks me bank A,B (Y/N)? So I respond Yes  
> and it
> looks like it's writing to the cartridge after a couple of seconds the
> display says Bank A,B OK. I check it by pushing the memory Bank A  
> key then
> the 1, but it just says memory A1, or A2, or A3 etc.... and no  
> sound, like
> nothing was written to it. I have tried several cartridges and no  
> luck. Can
> anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have checked the batteries  
> in the
> cartridges with a volt ohm meter. They appear ok. I replaced one of  
> the
> batteries and I still get the same results. I haven't abused it, I  
> just let
> it sit for a few months and now I can't seem to write to the  
> cartridges. Any
> help appreciated. Is there a factory reset I can do?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2011-11-19 by Mike Ward

Yes, there is data. I can press A1 and sees BRASS ENS.1 and it plays through
the AMP.
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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Daniel Forró
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:26 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

 

  

Sorry to say so obvious thing but are you sure there are some data in 
banks A and B? I write this because I had similar problem with 
CZ3000. There's backup battery in my machine, but after some longer 
time when it's not used its internal memory is erased...

Daniel Forro

On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I need a little help. I have a CZ3000 that I haven't 
> used in a
> while. It used to be able to save to the RA-3 cartridge that I had 
> in it.
> I'm trying to save off the internal Timbre's to a cartridge. I have 
> 5 RA-3
> cartridges. I press the cartridge key and it asks me cartridge save 
> or load?
> I then respond save and is asks me bank A,B (Y/N)? So I respond Yes 
> and it
> looks like it's writing to the cartridge after a couple of seconds the
> display says Bank A,B OK. I check it by pushing the memory Bank A 
> key then
> the 1, but it just says memory A1, or A2, or A3 etc.... and no 
> sound, like
> nothing was written to it. I have tried several cartridges and no 
> luck. Can
> anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have checked the batteries 
> in the
> cartridges with a volt ohm meter. They appear ok. I replaced one of 
> the
> batteries and I still get the same results. I haven't abused it, I 
> just let
> it sit for a few months and now I can't seem to write to the 
> cartridges. Any
> help appreciated. Is there a factory reset I can do?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





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Re: CZ3000

2011-11-22 by steve_the_composer

I wrote an extensive reply to this, but evidently Yahoo Groups posting system must have crapped out. Maybe I will try to repost it one of these days. In short: (1) check the protect switch, (2) do a systematic test. 

It does not seem that you did either of these things since you do not mention doing so.

Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <antebios1153@...> wrote:
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>
> Hello all, I need a little help. I have a CZ3000 that I haven't used in a
> while. It used to be able to save to the RA-3 cartridge that I had in it. 
> I'm trying to save off the internal Timbre's to a cartridge. I have 5 RA-3
> cartridges. I press the cartridge key and it asks me cartridge save or load?
> I then respond save and is asks me bank A,B (Y/N)? So I respond Yes and it
> looks like it's writing to the cartridge after a couple of seconds the
> display says Bank A,B OK. I check it by pushing the memory Bank A key then
> the 1, but it just says memory A1, or A2, or A3 etc.... and no sound, like
> nothing was written to it. I have tried several cartridges and no luck. Can
> anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have checked the batteries in the
> cartridges with a volt ohm meter. They appear ok. I replaced one of the
> batteries and I still get the same results. I haven't abused it, I just let
> it sit for a few months and now I can't seem to write to the cartridges. Any
> help appreciated. Is there a factory reset I can do?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: CZ3000

2011-11-23 by steve_the_composer

PS: (1) I would be very curious to know if doing a reset solves the problem. (2) I could be wrong, but so far as I remember, you need to load the patch data back into the CZ in order to hear it. From what you described, you didn't try that.   

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
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>
> I wrote an extensive reply to this, but evidently Yahoo Groups posting system must have crapped out. Maybe I will try to repost it one of these days. In short: (1) check the protect switch, (2) do a systematic test. 
> 
> It does not seem that you did either of these things since you do not mention doing so.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <antebios1153@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all, I need a little help. I have a CZ3000 that I haven't used in a
> > while. It used to be able to save to the RA-3 cartridge that I had in it. 
> > I'm trying to save off the internal Timbre's to a cartridge. I have 5 RA-3
> > cartridges. I press the cartridge key and it asks me cartridge save or load?
> > I then respond save and is asks me bank A,B (Y/N)? So I respond Yes and it
> > looks like it's writing to the cartridge after a couple of seconds the
> > display says Bank A,B OK. I check it by pushing the memory Bank A key then
> > the 1, but it just says memory A1, or A2, or A3 etc.... and no sound, like
> > nothing was written to it. I have tried several cartridges and no luck. Can
> > anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have checked the batteries in the
> > cartridges with a volt ohm meter. They appear ok. I replaced one of the
> > batteries and I still get the same results. I haven't abused it, I just let
> > it sit for a few months and now I can't seem to write to the cartridges. Any
> > help appreciated. Is there a factory reset I can do?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000

2011-11-23 by Daniel Forró

Exactly what I have written.

Daniel Forro
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On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:00 AM, steve_the_composer wrote:

> PS: (1) I would be very curious to know if doing a reset solves the  
> problem. (2) I could be wrong, but so far as I remember, you need  
> to load the patch data back into the CZ in order to hear it. From  
> what you described, you didn't try that.

Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000

2011-11-23 by Mike Ward

I will do this and let you know the results. Thanks.





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From: Daniel Forró <dan.for@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 7:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000

  
Exactly what I have written.

Daniel Forro

On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:00 AM, steve_the_composer wrote:

> PS: (1) I would be very curious to know if doing a reset solves the 
> problem. (2) I could be wrong, but so far as I remember, you need 
> to load the patch data back into the CZ in order to hear it. From 
> what you described, you didn't try that.


 

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Re: CZ3000

2011-11-23 by steve_the_composer

Sorry if my reply confused you. I was replying to the original post, not your reply. I guess I could have made that clearer.
Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Forró <dan.for@...> wrote:
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>
> Exactly what I have written.
> 
> Daniel Forro
> 
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:00 AM, steve_the_composer wrote:
> 
> > PS: (1) I would be very curious to know if doing a reset solves the  
> > problem. (2) I could be wrong, but so far as I remember, you need  
> > to load the patch data back into the CZ in order to hear it. From  
> > what you described, you didn't try that.
>

CZ3000

2012-08-02 by Mike Ward

Hello all, I have a question. I have a CZ3000. I can write individual
presets to the cartridge by pressing the preset I want to write, then I hit
the write button and press the cartridge preset I want it written to. This
works. What doesn't work is when I use the cartridge button with the save
option. Even though it says save ok nothing is written to the cartridge. Is
there a way to factory reset a Cz3000? I have the manual so I know I'm doing
the dump correctly. Any idea's as to why the bulk dump won't work, but the
single dumps do?



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Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-02 by Daniel Forró

As you mix more themes in your question, I'm confused what you want to  
know.

1. Saving all internal programs to cartridge at once?
2. MIDI SysEx bulk dump?
3. Factory reset?

There's a difference between writing data, saving data and bulk dump  
data...

Presets are always in ROM so there's no need to reset them. RAM can be  
filled by sending Bulk dump from computer or other data recorder able  
to transmit SysEx bulk dumps.

Daniel Forro
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On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I have a question. I have a CZ3000. I can write individual
> presets to the cartridge by pressing the preset I want to write,  
> then I hit
> the write button and press the cartridge preset I want it written  
> to. This
> works. What doesn't work is when I use the cartridge button with the  
> save
> option. Even though it says save ok nothing is written to the  
> cartridge. Is
> there a way to factory reset a Cz3000? I have the manual so I know  
> I'm doing
> the dump correctly. Any idea's as to why the bulk dump won't work,  
> but the
> single dumps do?

Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-02 by Lee Borrell

I think Mike is after saving to cartridge - I have to say - I have not used this facility any more than once on a RA100/HT700 - not used it on the CZ,since the one I had already had stuff on it..so I'd be interested in what anyone has to say about storing a whole bunch of patches at once using SAVE to a cartridge.



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 From: Daniel Forró <dan.for@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012, 2:29
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000
 

  
As you mix more themes in your question, I'm confused what you want to 
know.

1. Saving all internal programs to cartridge at once?
2. MIDI SysEx bulk dump?
3. Factory reset?

There's a difference between writing data, saving data and bulk dump 
data...

Presets are always in ROM so there's no need to reset them. RAM can be 
filled by sending Bulk dump from computer or other data recorder able 
to transmit SysEx bulk dumps.

Daniel Forro

On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I have a question. I have a CZ3000. I can write individual
> presets to the cartridge by pressing the preset I want to write, 
> then I hit
> the write button and press the cartridge preset I want it written 
> to. This
> works. What doesn't work is when I use the cartridge button with the 
> save
> option. Even though it says save ok nothing is written to the 
> cartridge. Is
> there a way to factory reset a Cz3000? I have the manual so I know 
> I'm doing
> the dump correctly. Any idea's as to why the bulk dump won't work, 
> but the
> single dumps do?


 

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Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-02 by Daniel Forró

Description in manual looks clear and easy, it should work... If not,  
problem can be in the instrument or in the cartridge. You can check  
where problem is by crosschecking:
- check the same cartridge in another instrument
- check the same instrument with another cartridge

Then you can try to focus where problem can be.

Maybe put new battery into cartridge and try saving?
Or erase cartridge completely, write initialized program into all  
memories one by one and than try saving?
Or put battery in the cartridge away for some time to erase it  
completely, then try once more saving?
Also cleaning contacts of cartridge or cartridge slot inside the  
instrument can help, maybe some contact responsible for enabling  
saving all data is dirty and hasn't good connection. Try normal rubber  
eraser, or some de-oxit liquid.

Daniel Forro
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On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Lee Borrell wrote:

> I think Mike is after saving to cartridge - I have to say - I have  
> not used this facility any more than once on a RA100/HT700 - not  
> used it on the CZ,since the one I had already had stuff on it..so  
> I'd be interested in what anyone has to say about storing a whole  
> bunch of patches at once using SAVE to a cartridge.
>

Re: OT Sibelius

2012-08-04 by Daniel Forró

Dear friends,

I'm not sure if all of you are informed about recent situation
concerning Sibelius score editor software. Please read this and  
consider signing a
petition, I did it one week ago as Sibelius user since the version 1
and member of Sibelius yahoo group. Spread this info please to all  
your music
friends and ask them to sign.

Here's what we can do:
http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/08/at-sibelius-software-the-last-staff-turn-out-the-lights.html

Thanks, hopefully this invaluable piece of software can be saved.

Daniel Forro

RE: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-05 by Mike Ward

I’m trying to do a bulk dump of A1-8, B1-8 and C1-8, D1-8 using the
cartridge button of the CZ3000. This does not work, but doing an individual
preset does.
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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Daniel Forró
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:30 PM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

 

  

As you mix more themes in your question, I'm confused what you want to 
know.

1. Saving all internal programs to cartridge at once?
2. MIDI SysEx bulk dump?
3. Factory reset?

There's a difference between writing data, saving data and bulk dump 
data...

Presets are always in ROM so there's no need to reset them. RAM can be 
filled by sending Bulk dump from computer or other data recorder able 
to transmit SysEx bulk dumps.

Daniel Forro

On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I have a question. I have a CZ3000. I can write individual
> presets to the cartridge by pressing the preset I want to write, 
> then I hit
> the write button and press the cartridge preset I want it written 
> to. This
> works. What doesn't work is when I use the cartridge button with the 
> save
> option. Even though it says save ok nothing is written to the 
> cartridge. Is
> there a way to factory reset a Cz3000? I have the manual so I know 
> I'm doing
> the dump correctly. Any idea's as to why the bulk dump won't work, 
> but the
> single dumps do?





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RE: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-05 by Mike Ward

Spot on.
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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Borrell
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:08 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

 

  

I think Mike is after saving to cartridge - I have to say - I have not used this facility any more than once on a RA100/HT700 - not used it on the CZ,since the one I had already had stuff on it..so I'd be interested in what anyone has to say about storing a whole bunch of patches at once using SAVE to a cartridge.

________________________________
From: Daniel Forró <dan.for@... <mailto:dan.for%40tiscali.cz> >
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012, 2:29
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000


  
As you mix more themes in your question, I'm confused what you want to 
know.

1. Saving all internal programs to cartridge at once?
2. MIDI SysEx bulk dump?
3. Factory reset?

There's a difference between writing data, saving data and bulk dump 
data...

Presets are always in ROM so there's no need to reset them. RAM can be 
filled by sending Bulk dump from computer or other data recorder able 
to transmit SysEx bulk dumps.

Daniel Forro

On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Hello all, I have a question. I have a CZ3000. I can write individual
> presets to the cartridge by pressing the preset I want to write, 
> then I hit
> the write button and press the cartridge preset I want it written 
> to. This
> works. What doesn't work is when I use the cartridge button with the 
> save
> option. Even though it says save ok nothing is written to the 
> cartridge. Is
> there a way to factory reset a Cz3000? I have the manual so I know 
> I'm doing
> the dump correctly. Any idea's as to why the bulk dump won't work, 
> but the
> single dumps do?

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Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-05 by Daniel Forró

Then it's not bulk dump - this term is used last 29 years in the world  
of MIDI only for SysEx transfer. What you want is just saving to  
cartridge.

Daniel Forro
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On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Spot on.
>
>
>
> From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On  
> Behalf Of Lee Borrell
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:08 AM
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000
>
>
>
>
>
> I think Mike is after saving to cartridge - I have to say - I have  
> not used this facility any more than once on a RA100/HT700 - not  
> used it on the CZ,since the one I had already had stuff on it..so  
> I'd be interested in what anyone has to say about storing a whole  
> bunch of patches at once using SAVE to a cartridge.
>

Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-05 by Daniel Forró

Bulk dump has nothing to do with cartridge. It means transmitting  
SysEx data to MIDI or receiving them into instrument.

Daniel Forro
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On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> I’m trying to do a bulk dump of A1-8, B1-8 and C1-8, D1-8 using the
> cartridge button of the CZ3000. This does not work, but doing an  
> individual
> preset does.

RE: [CZsynth] CZ3000

2012-08-05 by Mike Ward

Correct.
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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Daniel Forró
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 8:15 PM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000

 

  

Then it's not bulk dump - this term is used last 29 years in the world 
of MIDI only for SysEx transfer. What you want is just saving to 
cartridge.

Daniel Forro

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Mike Ward wrote:

> Spot on.
>
>
>
> From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Lee Borrell
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:08 AM
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ3000
>
>
>
>
>
> I think Mike is after saving to cartridge - I have to say - I have 
> not used this facility any more than once on a RA100/HT700 - not 
> used it on the CZ,since the one I had already had stuff on it..so 
> I'd be interested in what anyone has to say about storing a whole 
> bunch of patches at once using SAVE to a cartridge.
>





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