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2012-03-12 by ROGER
Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through! My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas?
2012-03-20 by jammie
relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching
----- Original Message -----
From: ROGER
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died...
Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through!
My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2012-03-20 by ROGER
Thanks, I'll have go. --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ROGER > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through! > > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2013-05-06 by burnermarko
Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you have any success by exchanging the relay? --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@...> wrote:
> > Thanks, I'll have go. > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote: > > > > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the > > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem > > > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ROGER > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM > > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > > > > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through! > > > > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2013-05-06 by charlie midi gfa
what about the diodes caps and resistors ,, any look old or depleted? chaz ----- Original Message -----
From: "burnermarko" <burnermarko@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:42 PM Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died... > Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you > have any success by exchanging the relay? > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@...> wrote: >> >> Thanks, I'll have go. >> >> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote: >> > >> > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to >> > stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for >> > speaker protection but if you turn down the >> > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem >> > >> > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the >> > same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same >> > problem the relays burn out and stop latching >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: ROGER >> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM >> > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died... >> > >> > >> > >> > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are >> > hard to sieve through! >> > >> > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still >> > works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for >> > 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound >> > that way either. Any ideas? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2013-05-06 by Dom
well known song: 'it's your power su-pply' jammie is right, only logical explanation. jammie can we have some links to some rave-ups? :) (and your collection of hardcore kick drums) ________________________________
From: burnermarko <burnermarko@...> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:42 AM Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died... Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you have any success by exchanging the relay? --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@...> wrote: > > Thanks, I'll have go. > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote: > > > > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the > > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem > > > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ROGER > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM > > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > > > > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through! > > > > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-05-06 by jammie
they will be in raw imd image format for the hxc floppy emulator if you have the emulator i will be uploading to the files section once i have finished imaging them as i have no floppy any more i cant load them and dump them from the fz1
----- Original Message -----
From: Dom
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
well known song: 'it's your power su-pply' jammie is right, only logical explanation.
jammie can we have some links to some rave-ups? :) (and your collection of hardcore kick drums)
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From: burnermarko <burnermarko@yahoo.com>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:42 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you
have any success by exchanging the relay?
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@...> wrote:
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> Thanks, I'll have go.
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >
> > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the
> > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem
> >
> > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ROGER
> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM
> > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died...
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> > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through!
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> > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas?
> >
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2013-05-07 by k9k9dog
ah :) you could torment Garth at Chicken Systems with a
request for sample format conversion, just for the hell of it.
(kiddin')
how do you find the floppy emulator? i was thinking of using one
for my atari. even wonder if viable for some other more common
samplers. i see some at high prices, then others around the 40eu
mark in Asia. same thing?
('88 Amnesiac here)
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:> > they will be in raw imd image format for the hxc floppy emulator if you have the emulator i will be uploading to the files section once i have finished imaging them > > as i have no floppy any more i cant load them and dump them from the fz1 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dom > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > well known song: 'it's your power su-pply' jammie is right, only logical explanation. > > jammie can we have some links to some rave-ups? :) (and your collection of hardcore kick drums) > > ________________________________ > From: burnermarko <burnermarko@...> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:42 AM > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you > have any success by exchanging the relay? > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@> wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll have go. > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote: > > > > > > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the > > > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem > > > > > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: ROGER > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM > > > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died... > > > > > > > > > > > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through! > > > > > > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2013-05-07 by jammie
atari get an ultrasatan the floppy emulator works no need for sample conversion awave already does it save it in the fz1 dump format what i was saying was that i fitted the floppy emulator so my machine never had a floppy any longer so that i could not load them and dump to fz format as the emulator is in my machine i have had to result in doing the imd hxc fomat raw images that the floppy emulator uses and the fz can read from the emulator down side is any images i upload the person downloading requires the same hxc floppy emulator to read them
----- Original Message -----
From: k9k9dog
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
ah :) you could torment Garth at Chicken Systems with a
request for sample format conversion, just for the hell of it.
(kiddin')
how do you find the floppy emulator? i was thinking of using one
for my atari. even wonder if viable for some other more common
samplers. i see some at high prices, then others around the 40eu
mark in Asia. same thing?
('88 Amnesiac here)
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>
> they will be in raw imd image format for the hxc floppy emulator if you have the emulator i will be uploading to the files section once i have finished imaging them
>
> as i have no floppy any more i cant load them and dump them from the fz1
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dom
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
>
>
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> well known song: 'it's your power su-pply' jammie is right, only logical explanation.
>
> jammie can we have some links to some rave-ups? :) (and your collection of hardcore kick drums)
>
> ________________________________
> From: burnermarko <burnermarko@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:42 AM
> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
>
>
>
> Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you
> have any success by exchanging the relay?
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, I'll have go.
> >
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> > >
> > > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the
> > > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem
> > >
> > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: ROGER
> > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM
> > > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died...
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> > >
> > >
> > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through!
> > >
> > > My CZ3000 died when left on for a few hours, the display etc. still works, you can switch parameters etc. but no sound... I left it off for 24 hours then tried again, still no sound. Tried Headphones, no sound that way either. Any ideas?
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2013-05-07 by k9k9dog
it's cool thanks - your kicks are your kicks :) i have considered the ultra satan, and a friend got it, you have to find own case for it and assemble..i was wondering if the emulator and a few old pendrives could fulfill same role on the cheap.(but you lose floppy) do you know if the MegaST4 can have its TOS language changed? i have a french one, but its a bit of a drag, would like to switch to english: do i need a new eeprom? also: it seems they need 40secs for the reboot to initiate, which the regular STE i've had for 17yrs doesn't. that also doesn't have the fan noise! and has TOS 1.06. i got the MegaST4 for the format eg: separate k/b, but it doesn't really seem to be an advantage after all, and i think they are the equivalent of STFs, rather than STE. any knowledge? (impossible to join the atari forum, absolutely no idea what the correct repsonse to the trick question is, i tried everything and they have no contact email!!!!! and yeah: i think AWave looks better than ChickSys. dead simple to do a drumkit, you just choose map consecutive keys or whatever, bam, it's done. --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> atari get an ultrasatan
>
> the floppy emulator works
>
> no need for sample conversion awave already does it save it in the fz1 dump format
>
> what i was saying was that i fitted the floppy emulator so my machine never had a floppy any longer so that i could not load them and dump to fz format
>
> as the emulator is in my machine i have had to result in doing the imd hxc fomat raw images that the floppy emulator uses and the fz can read from the emulator
>
> down side is any images i upload the person downloading requires the same hxc floppy emulator to read them
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: k9k9dog
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:29 AM
> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
>
>
>
> ah :) you could torment Garth at Chicken Systems with a
> request for sample format conversion, just for the hell of it.
> (kiddin')
>
> how do you find the floppy emulator? i was thinking of using one
> for my atari. even wonder if viable for some other more common
> samplers. i see some at high prices, then others around the 40eu
> mark in Asia. same thing?
>
> ('88 Amnesiac here)
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> >
> > they will be in raw imd image format for the hxc floppy emulator if you have the emulator i will be uploading to the files section once i have finished imaging them
> >
> > as i have no floppy any more i cant load them and dump them from the fz1
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dom
> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
> >
> >
> >
> > well known song: 'it's your power su-pply' jammie is right, only logical explanation.
> >
> > jammie can we have some links to some rave-ups? :) (and your collection of hardcore kick drums)
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: burnermarko <burnermarko@>
> > To: CZsynth@...m
> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:42 AM
> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ3000 suddenly died...
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, I do have the same problem. Did you
> > have any success by exchanging the relay?
> >
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ROGER" <r.d.j.w@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, I'll have go.
> > >
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > relay is shot just exchange for a new one or bypass its only there to stop the sudden rush of sound which can cuase a thud its there for speaker protection but if you turn down the
> > > > volume fader on mixer you can switch it on with no problem
> > > >
> > > > its a common fualt and its the same for other synth yamaha used the same type circuits the sy22/33/35/55 have the same and suffer the same problem the relays burn out and stop latching
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: ROGER
> > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [CZsynth] CZ3000 suddenly died...
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> > > > Apologies if question has been answered before, but old posts are hard to sieve through!
> > > >
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>2013-05-08 by gordon@...
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 10:33:42PM -0400, charlie midi gfa wrote: > what about the diodes caps and resistors ,, any look old or depleted? > chaz Don't just start replacing stuff because you feel like it. Track the fault down properly. If it all powers up but no sound comes out, the muting relay is always the first suspect. -- Gordonjcp MM0YEQ