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Evolver Sequence

2003-10-16 by Sayer

Created my first Evolver sequence today. It's amazing what you can do with this
monosynth! I used each oscillator as a separate voice. Treating it as a 4-part
multi-timbral synth. Makes me wish I could assign a separate midi channel to
each oscillator and control them externally. 

It's also nice to be able to use the noise source as an LFO destination. Adds a
nice percussive layer to make the mix even fuller. 

Here's a short mp3 file of it. No manual tweaking was done, just started the
sequence and recorded as a .wav file. It does have a little external reverb and
delay added from my 01V mixer. 

http://www.sayersweb.com/studio/mp3/evolver_seq_01.mp3

It's not too exciting, but it is amazing to see what can come out of the
Evolver monosynth in real-time. 

The PC editor has really opened up the Evolver for me. 

Sayer

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Re: [Evolver] Evolver Sequence

2003-10-17 by Paul Nagle

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Sayer <sayerseely@...>
wrote:

>Here's a short mp3 file of it. No manual tweaking was done, just started the
>sequence and recorded as a .wav file. It does have a little external reverb and
>delay added from my 01V mixer. 

Sweet....

Paul

Re: Evolver Sequence

2003-10-17 by Sayer

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Sayer <sayerseely@y...>
> wrote:
> 
> >Here's a short mp3 file of it. No manual tweaking was done, just started the
> >sequence and recorded as a .wav file. It does have a little external reverb
and
> >delay added from my 01V mixer. 
> 
> Sweet....

Hey Paul! 

I forgot you are on this list. Have you created any cool sequences with the
Evolver? I enjoyed the ones you did on the Nove.

Anyone have any evolver sequencer tips to share? 

Sayer

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Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver Sequence

2003-10-18 by Paul Nagle

#On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT), Sayer
<sayerseely@...> wrote:

>I forgot you are on this list. Have you created any cool sequences with the
>Evolver? I enjoyed the ones you did on the Nove.

I did a few a while ago (some may be in the patch collection
thingummy, can't recall) but mostly now I use my P3 sequencer 
( http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3.htm ) to send notes and MIDI
controllers with the Evolver simply being triggered. 

However, now Dave has kindly added the ability to step the sequencer
via MIDI notes I have a great addition to my armoury. I do the above
and then, for variation in a gig (cos I really would not reprogram the
Evo live) I hit start on the sequencer. Notes step it along (so I
don't record pitch into it either) and I get a variation in sound on
each step according to how I've programmed it. With careful stopping
of the sequencer in specific points I therefore get 16 different sound
variations available within one patch. 
Incidentally, that's why it would be far easier if the sequencer added
or subtracted its value to the stored values for any parameter -
currently I have to know every value I am sequencing so, at some
steps, I can get something that sounds as if related to the original
patch...

OK, rambling now... 8)

Paul

[Evolver] Re: Evolver Sequence

2003-10-18 by Sayer

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:

> I did a few a while ago (some may be in the patch collection
> thingummy, can't recall) but mostly now I use my P3 sequencer 
> ( http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3.htm ) to send notes and MIDI
> controllers with the Evolver simply being triggered. 

My skills are not up to building one of those kits, but I see you 
got one ready-made. Is this an option for the rest of us? 

How do you like the P3 compared to all of the other new ones that 
are appearing?

> However, now Dave has kindly added the ability to step the 
sequencer
> via MIDI notes I have a great addition to my armoury. 

This is a concept I really don't understand. What is the use for 
this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi clock? Are you 
sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer step?

> I do the above
> and then, for variation in a gig (cos I really would not reprogram 
the
> Evo live) I hit start on the sequencer. Notes step it along (so I
> don't record pitch into it either) and I get a variation in sound 
on
> each step according to how I've programmed it. With careful 
stopping
> of the sequencer in specific points I therefore get 16 different 
sound
> variations available within one patch. 

So, how is this different than having 16 presets to do the same 
thing? I'm new to step sequencers, so please excuse my ignorance.

> Incidentally, that's why it would be far easier if the sequencer 
added
> or subtracted its value to the stored values for any parameter -
> currently I have to know every value I am sequencing so, at some
> steps, I can get something that sounds as if related to the 
original
> patch...

LOL! I've read this paragraph 10 times, but the concept has not hit 
me yet. Are you talking the Evolver internal or the P3 when you talk 
about knowing the values you are sequencing?

Thanks! Maybe I will learn some new tricks from you guys!

Sayer

Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver Sequence

2003-10-18 by Paul Nagle

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:23:46 -0000, "Sayer" <sayerseely@...>
wrote:

>My skills are not up to building one of those kits, but I see you 
>got one ready-made. Is this an option for the rest of us? 

Yes, in fact he has just built a couple - worth a quick email to ask
if he still has them.

>How do you like the P3 compared to all of the other new ones that 
>are appearing?

I had a lot of input to how it currently works (and to future
developments, poor Colin, I never stop) so it works very quickly and
logically for me and the way I like to do things. It's designed so
that everything can be done live during playback and, well, we can
chat offline about it if you like as there is far more in it than
first might appear. 

>This is a concept I really don't understand. What is the use for 
>this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi clock? Are you 
>sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer step?

It's like in the old days of the ARP sequencer (I might sell one of
mine BTW) where you could clock the sequencer with a pulse (not the
Waldork variety, arf arf) or via the gate output on your synth. If
means you can change timbres for each note you play and that's rather
nice for subtle or very wild stuff - for solos, not just sequencing.

>So, how is this different than having 16 presets to do the same 
>thing? I'm new to step sequencers, so please excuse my ignorance.

Because you would have to have 16 different patches rather than one.
Maybe just playing with it will make more sense than my laborious
explanations, especially given my magic shortbread is just kicking
in... 8)

>LOL! I've read this paragraph 10 times, but the concept has not hit 
>me yet. Are you talking the Evolver internal or the P3 when you talk 
>about knowing the values you are sequencing?

The onboard sequencer deals in absolutes and my preference would be
relatives, inecestuously enough....

>Thanks! Maybe I will learn some new tricks from you guys!

Ah, but none of them healthy...

Paul

Re: Evolver Sequencer - MIDI Clock = "nOt"

2003-10-18 by ski_ex5tech

Sayer, you said, "This is a concept I really don't understand. What 
is the use for this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi 
clock? Are you sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer 
step?"

The best way to understand this is to simply try it, and trying it is 
easy.  

1) Pick a nice lead/bass patch, and set up a sequencer destination to 
control something *other* than pitch (really - no kidding this 
time).  Use filter, filter offset, or something like that.  Even 
better, set the waveshapes of osc 3 & 4 to be controlled by two 
sequencer tracks (look under shift row 2).

2) In sequence edit mode, assign some sequencer values.  They can 
just be random for now.

3) In the "Main" row at the top, knob 8 controls "MIDI Clock".  
Change the value of MIDI Clock to the new "nOt" setting.

4) Hit the sequencer Start/Stop button, and you'll notice nothing 
much happens;  the sequencer doesn't even appear to be running.

5) Now play the keyboard.  You'll see that each note you play 
advances the sequencer by one step.

With some tasteful programming (or even not so tasteful!), this can 
really be a blast to play.  I have a patch I like called "Wave 
Advance" that uses this feature.  I'll have to post it for everyone 
later.  The only thing that's a bit inconvenient is that you can't 
store the MIDI Clock setting on a program level.  It's only a quick 
knob twist away, though.


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sayer" <sayerseely@y...> wrote:
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> 
> > I did a few a while ago (some may be in the patch collection
> > thingummy, can't recall) but mostly now I use my P3 sequencer 
> > ( http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3.htm ) to send notes and MIDI
> > controllers with the Evolver simply being triggered. 
> 
> My skills are not up to building one of those kits, but I see you 
> got one ready-made. Is this an option for the rest of us? 
> 
> How do you like the P3 compared to all of the other new ones that 
> are appearing?
> 
> > However, now Dave has kindly added the ability to step the 
> sequencer
> > via MIDI notes I have a great addition to my armoury. 
> 
> This is a concept I really don't understand. What is the use for 
> this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi clock? Are you 
> sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer step?
> 
> > I do the above
> > and then, for variation in a gig (cos I really would not 
reprogram 
> the
> > Evo live) I hit start on the sequencer. Notes step it along (so I
> > don't record pitch into it either) and I get a variation in sound 
> on
> > each step according to how I've programmed it. With careful 
> stopping
> > of the sequencer in specific points I therefore get 16 different 
> sound
> > variations available within one patch. 
> 
> So, how is this different than having 16 presets to do the same 
> thing? I'm new to step sequencers, so please excuse my ignorance.
> 
> > Incidentally, that's why it would be far easier if the sequencer 
> added
> > or subtracted its value to the stored values for any parameter -
> > currently I have to know every value I am sequencing so, at some
> > steps, I can get something that sounds as if related to the 
> original
> > patch...
> 
> LOL! I've read this paragraph 10 times, but the concept has not hit 
> me yet. Are you talking the Evolver internal or the P3 when you 
talk 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> about knowing the values you are sequencing?
> 
> Thanks! Maybe I will learn some new tricks from you guys!
> 
> Sayer

Re: Evolver Sequencer - MIDI Clock = "nOt"

2003-10-19 by Sayer

Thanks Ski! I will give this a try for sure!!

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
wrote:
> Sayer, you said, "This is a concept I really don't understand. 
What 
> is the use for this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via 
midi 
> clock? Are you sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer 
> step?"
> 
> The best way to understand this is to simply try it, and trying it 
is 
> easy.  
> 
> 1) Pick a nice lead/bass patch, and set up a sequencer destination 
to 
> control something *other* than pitch (really - no kidding this 
> time).  Use filter, filter offset, or something like that.  Even 
> better, set the waveshapes of osc 3 & 4 to be controlled by two 
> sequencer tracks (look under shift row 2).
> 
> 2) In sequence edit mode, assign some sequencer values.  They can 
> just be random for now.
> 
> 3) In the "Main" row at the top, knob 8 controls "MIDI Clock".  
> Change the value of MIDI Clock to the new "nOt" setting.
> 
> 4) Hit the sequencer Start/Stop button, and you'll notice nothing 
> much happens;  the sequencer doesn't even appear to be running.
> 
> 5) Now play the keyboard.  You'll see that each note you play 
> advances the sequencer by one step.
> 
> With some tasteful programming (or even not so tasteful!), this 
can 
> really be a blast to play.  I have a patch I like called "Wave 
> Advance" that uses this feature.  I'll have to post it for 
everyone 
> later.  The only thing that's a bit inconvenient is that you can't 
> store the MIDI Clock setting on a program level.  It's only a 
quick 
> knob twist away, though.
> 
> 
> Ski
> www.ex5tech.com
> EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sayer" <sayerseely@y...> 
wrote:
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I did a few a while ago (some may be in the patch collection
> > > thingummy, can't recall) but mostly now I use my P3 sequencer 
> > > ( http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3.htm ) to send notes and MIDI
> > > controllers with the Evolver simply being triggered. 
> > 
> > My skills are not up to building one of those kits, but I see 
you 
> > got one ready-made. Is this an option for the rest of us? 
> > 
> > How do you like the P3 compared to all of the other new ones 
that 
> > are appearing?
> > 
> > > However, now Dave has kindly added the ability to step the 
> > sequencer
> > > via MIDI notes I have a great addition to my armoury. 
> > 
> > This is a concept I really don't understand. What is the use for 
> > this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi clock? Are 
you 
> > sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer step?
> > 
> > > I do the above
> > > and then, for variation in a gig (cos I really would not 
> reprogram 
> > the
> > > Evo live) I hit start on the sequencer. Notes step it along 
(so I
> > > don't record pitch into it either) and I get a variation in 
sound 
> > on
> > > each step according to how I've programmed it. With careful 
> > stopping
> > > of the sequencer in specific points I therefore get 16 
different 
> > sound
> > > variations available within one patch. 
> > 
> > So, how is this different than having 16 presets to do the same 
> > thing? I'm new to step sequencers, so please excuse my ignorance.
> > 
> > > Incidentally, that's why it would be far easier if the 
sequencer 
> > added
> > > or subtracted its value to the stored values for any 
parameter -
> > > currently I have to know every value I am sequencing so, at 
some
> > > steps, I can get something that sounds as if related to the 
> > original
> > > patch...
> > 
> > LOL! I've read this paragraph 10 times, but the concept has not 
hit 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > me yet. Are you talking the Evolver internal or the P3 when you 
> talk 
> > about knowing the values you are sequencing?
> > 
> > Thanks! Maybe I will learn some new tricks from you guys!
> > 
> > Sayer

Re: Evolver Sequencer - MIDI Clock = "nOt"

2003-10-20 by z_flash_ram

Of note using 'nOt' feature is the fact that you can program 'steps' 
of notes/modulations and press 1 key repeatedly to 'play' or step-
thru the line at whatever rhythm you wish!  Sort of like the 
childrens keyboards that play the same melody no matter what key you 
hit, meaning you don't have to play the correct notes on the 
keyboard, but it sounds like it.  (Assuming the midi transpose is 
OFF, but please do leave it ON.)  Just a fun thing to do, especially 
for a man like myself who has very few skills/tricks up his keyboard-
playing sleeve.

PS - the *Evolutionaries* package is sweet, good work putting it 
together, guys (ski).  Btw, I've found that I really relate to 
Swanoid's work.

chris

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sayer" <sayerseely@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Ski! I will give this a try for sure!!
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
> wrote:
> > Sayer, you said, "This is a concept I really don't understand. 
> What 
> > is the use for this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via 
> midi 
> > clock? Are you sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer 
> > step?"
> > 
> > The best way to understand this is to simply try it, and trying 
it 
> is 
> > easy.  
> > 
> > 1) Pick a nice lead/bass patch, and set up a sequencer 
destination 
> to 
> > control something *other* than pitch (really - no kidding this 
> > time).  Use filter, filter offset, or something like that.  Even 
> > better, set the waveshapes of osc 3 & 4 to be controlled by two 
> > sequencer tracks (look under shift row 2).
> > 
> > 2) In sequence edit mode, assign some sequencer values.  They can 
> > just be random for now.
> > 
> > 3) In the "Main" row at the top, knob 8 controls "MIDI Clock".  
> > Change the value of MIDI Clock to the new "nOt" setting.
> > 
> > 4) Hit the sequencer Start/Stop button, and you'll notice nothing 
> > much happens;  the sequencer doesn't even appear to be running.
> > 
> > 5) Now play the keyboard.  You'll see that each note you play 
> > advances the sequencer by one step.
> > 
> > With some tasteful programming (or even not so tasteful!), this 
> can 
> > really be a blast to play.  I have a patch I like called "Wave 
> > Advance" that uses this feature.  I'll have to post it for 
> everyone 
> > later.  The only thing that's a bit inconvenient is that you 
can't 
> > store the MIDI Clock setting on a program level.  It's only a 
> quick 
> > knob twist away, though.
> > 
> > 
> > Ski
> > www.ex5tech.com
> > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sayer" <sayerseely@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> 
wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I did a few a while ago (some may be in the patch collection
> > > > thingummy, can't recall) but mostly now I use my P3 sequencer 
> > > > ( http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3.htm ) to send notes and 
MIDI
> > > > controllers with the Evolver simply being triggered. 
> > > 
> > > My skills are not up to building one of those kits, but I see 
> you 
> > > got one ready-made. Is this an option for the rest of us? 
> > > 
> > > How do you like the P3 compared to all of the other new ones 
> that 
> > > are appearing?
> > > 
> > > > However, now Dave has kindly added the ability to step the 
> > > sequencer
> > > > via MIDI notes I have a great addition to my armoury. 
> > > 
> > > This is a concept I really don't understand. What is the use 
for 
> > > this in comparison to syncing the sequencer via midi clock? Are 
> you 
> > > sending multiple midi notes between each sequencer step?
> > > 
> > > > I do the above
> > > > and then, for variation in a gig (cos I really would not 
> > reprogram 
> > > the
> > > > Evo live) I hit start on the sequencer. Notes step it along 
> (so I
> > > > don't record pitch into it either) and I get a variation in 
> sound 
> > > on
> > > > each step according to how I've programmed it. With careful 
> > > stopping
> > > > of the sequencer in specific points I therefore get 16 
> different 
> > > sound
> > > > variations available within one patch. 
> > > 
> > > So, how is this different than having 16 presets to do the same 
> > > thing? I'm new to step sequencers, so please excuse my 
ignorance.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > 
> > > > Incidentally, that's why it would be far easier if the 
> sequencer 
> > > added
> > > > or subtracted its value to the stored values for any 
> parameter -
> > > > currently I have to know every value I am sequencing so, at 
> some
> > > > steps, I can get something that sounds as if related to the 
> > > original
> > > > patch...
> > > 
> > > LOL! I've read this paragraph 10 times, but the concept has not 
> hit 
> > > me yet. Are you talking the Evolver internal or the P3 when you 
> > talk 
> > > about knowing the values you are sequencing?
> > > 
> > > Thanks! Maybe I will learn some new tricks from you guys!
> > > 
> > > Sayer

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