Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi All

I haven't posted before but have lurked for some time.I have just 
bought a Polyevolver after having had(and foolishly sold ) a 
regular evolver.
I'm wondering if I can hard reset or initialize the unit at all.In 
program mode I'm noticing 2 voices being triggered instead of 
one at a time with cycling.
I also have a problem with the headphone output.Apart from 
being a little noisy it won't go below a certain level.If you turn it 
anticlockwise it reaches a point where it just shuts off instead of 
fading to nothing.Anyone else experienced this?
Also finally i'd love to hear peoples thoughts on the 2 units.I can 
already see that I miss the hands on editing of the evolver and 
the happy accidents it produces.I can see myself going back to 
the monophonic unit actually.
Anyway happy easter and keep evolving.

K.G.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:09:40 -0000, keyboardgod2000
<keyboardgod@...> wrote:
> Also finally i'd love to hear peoples thoughts on the 2 units.I can
> already see that I miss the hands on editing of the evolver and
> the happy accidents it produces.I can see myself going back to
> the monophonic unit actually.

I'm also curious -- how do current polyevolver owners work with it? 
Do you use a mono evolver as a control unit?  Is this a convenient and
seamless way to work, or are there annoyances?

I have a mono evolver, and while I'm salivating over the upcoming
keyboard, the polyevolver rack seems a bit scary with the lack of
controls, even if a mono E were attached...

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

The Evolver rack ships with an editor software.
I can't imagine to work without it, especially when it comes to editing
the multimode parameters.

-----Original Message-----
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:08:34 +0100
Subject: Re: [Evolver] New Polyevolver user
From: Miles Bader <miles@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com

  On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:09:40 -0000, keyboardgod2000
  wrote:
 > Also finally i'd love to hear peoples thoughts on the 2 units.I
can
 > already see that I miss the hands on editing of the evolver and
 > the happy accidents it produces.I can see myself going back to
 > the monophonic unit actually.
 I'm also curious -- how do current polyevolver owners work with it? 
 Do you use a mono evolver as a control unit?\ufffd Is this a convenient
and
 seamless way to work, or are there annoyances?
 I have a mono evolver, and while I'm salivating over the upcoming
 keyboard, the polyevolver rack seems a bit scary with the lack of
 controls, even if a mono E were attached...
 -Miles
 -- 
 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:39:50 +0100, Trippler@...
<trippler@...> wrote:
> The Evolver rack ships with an editor software.
> I can't imagine to work without it, especially when it comes to editing
> the multimode parameters.

Hmmm, I don't use ms-windows on my computer, and I assume that's the
only thing supported.  [I usually consider "ships with an editor"
advertised with a synth as a negative point because (1) it very likely
won't work for me, and (2) it means they thought it was necessary...
:-]

Anyone out there use the poly-evolver _without_ the computer editor?

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

> Hmmm, I don't use ms-windows on my computer, and I assume that's the
> only thing supported.  [I usually consider "ships with an editor"
> advertised with a synth as a negative point because (1) it very likely
> won't work for me, and (2) it means they thought it was necessary...
> :-]
> 
> Anyone out there use the poly-evolver _without_ the computer editor?

Do you own any 1u rack synths?

Well, it being a RACK and missing more than half the buttons and knobs 
than the desktop, it is inherently more difficult to program.  This goes 
for most any 1u rackmount synths,  like Access Virus racks for example. 
  It's world's different and difficult versus a full desktop version. 
Heck, I use the editor with the silgle Evolver version b/c it's quicker 
and easier to navigate.  Just like I do with the Virus and it's included 
editor.

Plus the editor is both mac/pc,

I say the fellow who thought about going backto the regular evolver is 
making a big mistake.  Having the eight knobs isn't worth it to me.  And 
if tactile editing is a must,  I say save a few more pennies and get the 
keys version.  Don't go back to single voice evolver just yet,  play 
with the editor.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:26:11 -0500, Robert Krueger <rkr1@...> wrote:
> > Anyone out there use the poly-evolver _without_ the computer editor?
>
> Do you own any 1u rack synths?
>
> Well, it being a RACK and missing more than half the buttons and knobs
> than the desktop, it is inherently more difficult to program.

I was thinking more of the mono evolver as a controller, not the front
panel of the rack -- should be more  or less possible, given that the
evolver can transmit all control movements.  What I'm wondering is
whether it's "more" or "less" (e.g., whether having to use the rack's
controls to manage various non-voice-editing tasks completely ruins
the experience or not).

> Plus the editor is both mac/pc,

I use linux ... :-)

> I say the fellow who thought about going backto the regular evolver is
> making a big mistake.  Having the eight knobs isn't worth it to me.

I rather like the mono evolver's interface -- it's not really the 8
knobs (though they help), it's the way they and the buttons are are
positioned around a large friendly diagram.  Very intuitive really. 
With a larger display and a nicer shift-key setup I'd be happy as a
clam.

Of course the kb version looks like a dream come true...

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

I say the fellow who thought about going backto the regular evolver is
making a big mistake. Having the eight knobs isn't worth it to me. And
if tactile editing is a must, I say save a few more pennies and get the
keys version. Don't go back to single voice evolver just yet, play
with the editor.


Yeh I\u2019ll persevere for a bit.That was an initial impression.I couldn\u2019t believe how much I fiddled with the sequencer on the original Evolver...in front of the TV or whatever....I was very surprised.It wasn\u2019t just the knobs...it was the whole layout....I just liked it.It seems to me that the real essence of the instrument is in the sequencer, not polyphony and playing chords etc.
I can hear much of the original Evolver in the Poly and questioned whether I can do without the extra notes.Question of money too.


Any thoughts on the headphone issue and intializing the unit?

Thanks

K.G.

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A synthesizer that can be edited without software is either very
expensive because of an incredible number of knobs and buttons or it is
outdated ;-)
An up to date synthesizer should have a number of editible parameters
that can't be covered with knobs.

Regards

Stefan

-----Original Message-----
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:18:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Re: [Evolver] New Polyevolver user
From: Miles Bader <miles@...>
[I usually consider "ships with an editor"
 advertised with a synth as a negative point because (1) it very
likely
 won't work for me, and (2) it means they thought it was necessary...
 :-]
 Anyone out there use the poly-evolver _without_ the computer editor?
 Thanks,
 -Miles
 --

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:04:59 +0100, Trippler@...
<trippler@...> wrote:
> A synthesizer that can be edited without software is either very
> expensive because of an incredible number of knobs and buttons or it is
> outdated ;-)

Er, well the mono evolver seems to disprove that ....

It's not really how many knobs you have past some point, it's how you use them.

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

BTW, I might mention that the evolver sounds you have in the MP3s on
your (Er, I mean Trippler, in case it's not clear) website are really
nice, so that might be "exhibit A" in the case for computer editors
... :-)

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Yep, the matrix UI of the mono Evolver is a good compromise.

Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Miles Bader" <miles@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Evolver] New Polyevolver user


> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:04:59 +0100, Trippler@...
> <trippler@...> wrote:
>> A synthesizer that can be edited without software is either very
>> expensive because of an incredible number of knobs and buttons or it is
>> outdated ;-)
>
> Er, well the mono evolver seems to disprove that ....
>
> It's not really how many knobs you have past some point, it's how you use 
> them.
>
> -Miles
> -- 
> Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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