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Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by J Lesser

OK - I know its insane, but has anyone looked into creating an expander with patch points 
for the Evolver? I know, I know.. its sooo powerful and patchable as it is... but just thinking of 
the possibilities of a semi-modular setup with the Evolver as the heart... Oooo....

Anyway, its late and I've been at the brew and the Evolver... Sets me too thinking.

j

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by Bodie

what about this? http://www.rlowery.org/images/foogerstation.jpg

I have two of them, one focused with the Moog expansion kit and the
other with 3 foogers and the Sherman Filterbank 2
http://www.sherman.be/images/sherman_rack_brison_cold.jpg

Is that what you're talking about?

Bodie

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "J Lesser" <j@...> wrote:
>
> OK - I know its insane, but has anyone looked into creating an
expander with patch points 
> for the Evolver? I know, I know.. its sooo powerful and patchable as
it is... but just thinking of 
> the possibilities of a semi-modular setup with the Evolver as the
heart... Oooo....
> 
> Anyway, its late and I've been at the brew and the Evolver... Sets
me too thinking.
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> 
> j
>

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by J Lesser

I'm really thinking like a break in the signal chain after the oscillators... A physical mod to the 
Evolver itself.  I appreciate that trying to break out all the insane CV possibilities is not an 
easy job... but, if i could use the evolver oscs to drive a bunch of outside gear, then patch 
back in, possibly... actually.. i could just use the audio in to get back in.. so it would just be 
tapping the oscillators before they get to the filter.... 

anyway.. I'm babbling :)

j

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Bodie" <bodie@...> wrote:
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> what about this? http://www.rlowery.org/images/foogerstation.jpg
> 
>

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by J Lesser

OT - how is the build quality on that Behringer patch bay? In the market myself for a new 
one...



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Bodie" <bodie@...> wrote:
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> what about this? http://www.rlowery.org/images/foogerstation.jpg
>

Re: [Evolver] Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by Sr. Minimo

I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has gone
wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable in
or out. I do love the fact that you can change it to
normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the unit.


--- J Lesser <j@...> wrote:

> 
> OT - how is the build quality on that Behringer
> patch bay? In the market myself for a new 
> one...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Bodie"
> <bodie@...> wrote:
> >
> > what about this?
> http://www.rlowery.org/images/foogerstation.jpg
> > 
> 
> 



 
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Re: [Evolver] Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-26 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)

study the audio path ...
patch panels work that way ...
once you see how the connections are made and broken you will understand...
dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: Sr. Minimo
I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has gone
wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable in
or out. I do love the fact that you can change it to
normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the unit.

[Evolver] OT: Behringer Patch was Re: Sacrilege?

2007-02-26 by J Lesser

ya.. that was my fear.. i really need something I can patch a gazillion times. Add to that that I 
am totally uncoordinated... and I really need somethign built like a Tonka toy :)

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sr. Minimo" <srminimo@...> wrote:
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>
> I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has gone
> wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
> non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable in
> or out. I do love the fact that you can change it to
> normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the unit.
> 
>

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-27 by Miles Bader

"J Lesser" <j@...> writes:
> I'm really thinking like a break in the signal chain after the
> oscillators... A physical mod to the Evolver itself.  I appreciate
> that trying to break out all the insane CV possibilities is not an
> easy job... but, if i could use the evolver oscs to drive a bunch of
> outside gear, then patch back in, possibly... actually.. i could just
> use the audio in to get back in.. so it would just be tapping the
> oscillators before they get to the filter....

Remember the Evolver is not quite like other "analogue" synths -- much
of the analogue signal path is internal to the "synth on a chip" that it
uses (2 per voice).

It's obvious that there must be an analogue input point before the
filters (which the evolver uses to inject the signal from the digital
oscs and external input), but it seems possible that there's no way to
_output_ the analogue osc signals at that point.  Of course maybe there
is ... :-) anyway the point is that the E is probably a bit more
constrained and less trivially hackable than other analogue synths.

-Miles

-- 
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-27 by J Lesser

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader <miles@...> wrote:

> Of course maybe there
> is ... :-) anyway the point is that the E is probably a bit more
> constrained and less trivially hackable than other analogue synths.

No doubt... While I'm tempted, I still haven't looked under the hood, tho i have seen pics of 
the board... not something I would put a soldering iron to, but you know, some folks have 
very steady hands :)

I know the evolver is its own beast, its just that - with so many routing possibilities - its so 
NEARLY a modular synth as it is.

anyhoo... 

j

Re: [Evolver] Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-27 by Robert Krueger

Sr. Minimo wrote:
> I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has gone
> wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
> non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable in
> or out. I do love the fact that you can change it to
> normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the unit.


Might I interject that I've owned both Neutrik and Behringer patchbays, 
and both had various amounts of give, or wiggle, on the jacks 
themselves.  That's not out of the ordinary.  The Behringer pro 
patchbays I have work as they should.  Interesting though, is that most 
monster cables have a hard time getting plugged or unplugged from mine, 
all other kinds of nice cables have no issue, just monster.... makes you 
wonder...

Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-27 by ucacjbs

FWIW, I picked up a Samson S-Patch Plus recently - seems to be built 
rather tank-like.  There are switches for normal, thru and half 
normal on the front, which is convenient, although it's to be seen 
whether I will actually want to change them very often.  The mode 
switches are small, recessed and tight, so there's little chance of 
accidentally moving them.

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Robert Krueger <rkr1@...> wrote:
>
> Sr. Minimo wrote:
> > I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has gone
> > wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
> > non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable in
> > or out. I do love the fact that you can change it to
> > normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the unit.
> 
> 
> Might I interject that I've owned both Neutrik and Behringer 
patchbays, 
> and both had various amounts of give, or wiggle, on the jacks 
> themselves.  That's not out of the ordinary.  The Behringer pro 
> patchbays I have work as they should.  Interesting though, is that 
most 
> monster cables have a hard time getting plugged or unplugged from 
mine, 
> all other kinds of nice cables have no issue, just monster.... 
makes you 
> wonder...
>

Re: [Evolver] Re: Sacrilege? - Evolver Breakout Expander

2007-02-27 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)

Might be something to try, contact Dave and ask ...
dale
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From: J Lesser
--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader wrote:

> Of course maybe there
> is ... :-) anyway the point is that the E is probably a bit more
> constrained and less trivially hackable than other analogue synths.

No doubt... While I'm tempted, I still haven't looked under the hood, tho i have seen pics of
the board... not something I would put a soldering iron to, but you know, some folks have
very steady hands :)

I know the evolver is its own beast, its just that - with so many routing possibilities - its so
NEARLY a modular synth as it is.

anyhoo...

j

Re: [Evolver] OT: Behringer Patch was Re: Sacrilege?

2007-02-27 by Sr. Minimo

In that case check the Signex Isopatch.


--- J Lesser <j@...> wrote:

> ya.. that was my fear.. i really need something I
> can patch a gazillion times. Add to that that I 
> am totally uncoordinated... and I really need
> somethign built like a Tonka toy :)
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sr. Minimo"
> <srminimo@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just bought a Behringer patch bay. Nothing has
> gone
> > wrong, mind you, but the imputs move in a very
> > non-reasurring way every time I plug a patch cable
> in
> > or out. I do love the fact that you can change it
> to
> > normaled-half or non from a swith on top of the
> unit.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



 
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