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Midi Sync

Midi Sync

2005-11-04 by thisgizmo

I am having some trouble using my DTX II sinc'ing up to my Sonar and 
playing what I have programmed. I follow the manual (as best as I can 
figure out), but all I get is an internal patch playing. 
 Any help?

Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-07 by zapaxe

Hi, 

I use Cubase myself, and I'm relatively new to midi recording, but 
this is something I'm working on lately myself.
I'm not sure exactly of what you're asking but I take your midi 
recorded drums do are not playing back 'in time' with your audio 
tracks? If so, do you have the tempo set within your recording 
program? Did you even record the audio to a click? There are other 
factors of course.

Steve



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "thisgizmo" <thisgizmo@y...> wrote:
>
> I am having some trouble using my DTX II sinc'ing up to my Sonar and 
> playing what I have programmed. I follow the manual (as best as I 
can 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> figure out), but all I get is an internal patch playing. 
>  Any help?
>

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-07 by Edward Kleckner

I set a program of drums in the Sonar, I have it going
out of the midi into the DTX2. I set all of the
controls on the DTX2 to receive and playback (I think,
because I might be missing something here from the
manual). Then I hook up to my DAW throught 1/4 Outputs
from the DTX. When I push play on the DAW a
pre-programmed pattern plays on the DTX instead of the
midi program from the Sonar. Totally the wrong drums
AND out of sync. I use my Roland Keyboard from the
computer to the DAW and all is fine. I think it is
some programming flaw on my part with the DTX brain. 

Ed

--- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@...> wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I use Cubase myself, and I'm relatively new to midi
> recording, but 
> this is something I'm working on lately myself.
> I'm not sure exactly of what you're asking but I
> take your midi 
> recorded drums do are not playing back 'in time'
> with your audio 
> tracks? If so, do you have the tempo set within your
> recording 
> program? Did you even record the audio to a click?
> There are other 
> factors of course.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "thisgizmo"
> <thisgizmo@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I am having some trouble using my DTX II sinc'ing
> up to my Sonar and 
> > playing what I have programmed. I follow the
> manual (as best as I 
> can 
> > figure out), but all I get is an internal patch
> playing. 
> >  Any help?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-10 by zapaxe

Ah, I understand what you're saying now...

In Cubase VST, in the Arrange Window, I must select which midi 
instrument go's to the In & Out of each midi track. 

In my own case with Cubase & the DTXpressIII module, I'm using a 
single 'To Host' serial cable instead of the two regular midi cables 
in/out, so in the instrument select, I have to select the Yamaha CBX 
driver as my midi instrument device in the Arrange Window to make my 
DTXpress module work with the 'To Host' cable.

If say I have a midi drum track in Cubase (whether I played it 
myself or put a pre-made midi drum file there) that I then want my 
DTXpress module to play, I have to select the CBX driver as my midi 
instrument out from Cubase. If I use my regular midi cables in & 
out, I selct my Aardvark sound card as the midi out instead. Not 
sure how Cakewalk routes midi...?

It sounds like your Cakewalk program is triggering your DTXpress 
module to automatically play it's 'thang'. I'd have to think that 
the DTXpress module is set somehow to recieve that kind of command, 
though maybe Cakewalk is 'giving' that command, the module still, is 
responding. Off hand, I'm not aware at all of any setting without 
reading the manual,that the DTXpress can recieve a 'play' message, 
but this does sound like something that would be a feature as with 
many midi commands & messages, beyond. 

Is your DTXpress set to recieve midi channel 10? Is Cakewalk sending 
on midi CH 10? Are you using General Midi? Or other?

Just stabbing at some idea's here :)

Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner <thisgizmo@y...> 
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I set a program of drums in the Sonar, I have it going
> out of the midi into the DTX2. I set all of the
> controls on the DTX2 to receive and playback (I think,
> because I might be missing something here from the
> manual). Then I hook up to my DAW throught 1/4 Outputs
> from the DTX. When I push play on the DAW a
> pre-programmed pattern plays on the DTX instead of the
> midi program from the Sonar. Totally the wrong drums
> AND out of sync. I use my Roland Keyboard from the
> computer to the DAW and all is fine. I think it is
> some programming flaw on my part with the DTX brain. 
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I use Cubase myself, and I'm relatively new to midi
> > recording, but 
> > this is something I'm working on lately myself.
> > I'm not sure exactly of what you're asking but I
> > take your midi 
> > recorded drums do are not playing back 'in time'
> > with your audio 
> > tracks? If so, do you have the tempo set within your
> > recording 
> > program? Did you even record the audio to a click?
> > There are other 
> > factors of course.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "thisgizmo"
> > <thisgizmo@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am having some trouble using my DTX II sinc'ing
> > up to my Sonar and 
> > > playing what I have programmed. I follow the
> > manual (as best as I 
> > can 
> > > figure out), but all I get is an internal patch
> > playing. 
> > >  Any help?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-10 by Edward Kleckner

IT is really hard for me to put CUBASE fundementals
with Sonar hard truths. I have been using cakewalk
since DOS, so I kind of know the proceedure there. 
Again, I am wrong about 7 times a day, so this might
make 8.
I set the computer to midi out with the sync to the
DTX module. From there I get lost, Because I have to
set two or three pages on the DTX to receive and play
the midi. 
The sad thing is, I did this before and it worked
wonderfully. Now I am left beating my head against the
wall and considering putting the darn thing up for
sale on ebay. Thank goodness for the $70 - $100
shipping fee any poor fool would have to pay. 
ed

--- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@...> wrote:

> Ah, I understand what you're saying now...
> 
> In Cubase VST, in the Arrange Window, I must select
> which midi 
> instrument go's to the In & Out of each midi track. 
> 
> In my own case with Cubase & the DTXpressIII module,
> I'm using a 
> single 'To Host' serial cable instead of the two
> regular midi cables 
> in/out, so in the instrument select, I have to
> select the Yamaha CBX 
> driver as my midi instrument device in the Arrange
> Window to make my 
> DTXpress module work with the 'To Host' cable.
> 
> If say I have a midi drum track in Cubase (whether I
> played it 
> myself or put a pre-made midi drum file there) that
> I then want my 
> DTXpress module to play, I have to select the CBX
> driver as my midi 
> instrument out from Cubase. If I use my regular midi
> cables in & 
> out, I selct my Aardvark sound card as the midi out
> instead. Not 
> sure how Cakewalk routes midi...?
> 
> It sounds like your Cakewalk program is triggering
> your DTXpress 
> module to automatically play it's 'thang'. I'd have
> to think that 
> the DTXpress module is set somehow to recieve that
> kind of command, 
> though maybe Cakewalk is 'giving' that command, the
> module still, is 
> responding. Off hand, I'm not aware at all of any
> setting without 
> reading the manual,that the DTXpress can recieve a
> 'play' message, 
> but this does sound like something that would be a
> feature as with 
> many midi commands & messages, beyond. 
> 
> Is your DTXpress set to recieve midi channel 10? Is
> Cakewalk sending 
> on midi CH 10? Are you using General Midi? Or other?
> 
> Just stabbing at some idea's here :)
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner
> <thisgizmo@y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I set a program of drums in the Sonar, I have it
> going
> > out of the midi into the DTX2. I set all of the
> > controls on the DTX2 to receive and playback (I
> think,
> > because I might be missing something here from the
> > manual). Then I hook up to my DAW throught 1/4
> Outputs
> > from the DTX. When I push play on the DAW a
> > pre-programmed pattern plays on the DTX instead of
> the
> > midi program from the Sonar. Totally the wrong
> drums
> > AND out of sync. I use my Roland Keyboard from the
> > computer to the DAW and all is fine. I think it is
> > some programming flaw on my part with the DTX
> brain. 
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > I use Cubase myself, and I'm relatively new to
> midi
> > > recording, but 
> > > this is something I'm working on lately myself.
> > > I'm not sure exactly of what you're asking but I
> > > take your midi 
> > > recorded drums do are not playing back 'in time'
> > > with your audio 
> > > tracks? If so, do you have the tempo set within
> your
> > > recording 
> > > program? Did you even record the audio to a
> click?
> > > There are other 
> > > factors of course.
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "thisgizmo"
> > > <thisgizmo@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am having some trouble using my DTX II
> sinc'ing
> > > up to my Sonar and 
> > > > playing what I have programmed. I follow the
> > > manual (as best as I 
> > > can 
> > > > figure out), but all I get is an internal
> patch
> > > playing. 
> > > >  Any help?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 		
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-11 by zapaxe

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse you with my clutter about Cubase :)

I often have similar issues, in that I've done something before, but 
can't make it work at a later date because I'm doing the wrong thing 
over & over!

You say you have to set 2 or 3 pages???? Now I'm confused! :o I 
simply set my DTXpress module to midi CH 10, General Midi after 
setting up my Cubase midi ins/outs.

It sounds like you may be recording midi ok into Cakewalk, or are 
you using pre-made midi drum beats? Either way, do you have a way of 
playing back the midi drums other than using your DTXpress module? A 
Drum program/sampler etc..? Or even General Midi from your sound 
card? I ask only to check to make sure that the problem is within 
your DTXpress module hook-up/set-up...simple deduction my dear 
Watson. If your midi timing is off still then you know where NOT to 
look. If your computer plays the midi in time in this way, then it's 
back to the module.

But as  recall correctly, you said that when you play back the midi 
within Cakewalk, it triggers your DTXpress module to start playing 
as if you've pressed the 'play' button...?

Have you considered innitializing (resetting) your DTXpress module 
as LAST resort?..Before selling it :o





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner <thisgizmo@y...> 
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> IT is really hard for me to put CUBASE fundementals
> with Sonar hard truths. I have been using cakewalk
> since DOS, so I kind of know the proceedure there. 
> Again, I am wrong about 7 times a day, so this might
> make 8.
> I set the computer to midi out with the sync to the
> DTX module. From there I get lost, Because I have to
> set two or three pages on the DTX to receive and play
> the midi. 
> The sad thing is, I did this before and it worked
> wonderfully. Now I am left beating my head against the
> wall and considering putting the darn thing up for
> sale on ebay. Thank goodness for the $70 - $100
> shipping fee any poor fool would have to pay. 
> ed

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-11 by Edward Kleckner

Thanks for your time Zapaxe. 
If I said "Did that" to just about everything you
said, where would that leave us. 
I am not at my DTX module, but to play midi, I have to
set it to External on the MIDI editing screen and then
the rest of the steps. 

Let me be clear. I have initialized, I have followed
pages 42,92,110 and 118 in the manual. Even followed
the MIDI section starting on page 129. I am no
stranger to Midi and the Computer. I am not too savy
with the DTX and what proceedures I have to do from
initialization to have it play in sinq. Currently I am
using my Roland Keyboard or an old AKAI GM sound
module for the drum beats I have programmed and fed
into my DAW (digital work station). I love the tones
the DTX has and would like to use them.

Did I lose you?
Ed

--- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@...> wrote:

> Sorry, didn't mean to confuse you with my clutter
> about Cubase :)
> 
> I often have similar issues, in that I've done
> something before, but 
> can't make it work at a later date because I'm doing
> the wrong thing 
> over & over!
> 
> You say you have to set 2 or 3 pages???? Now I'm
> confused! :o I 
> simply set my DTXpress module to midi CH 10, General
> Midi after 
> setting up my Cubase midi ins/outs.
> 
> It sounds like you may be recording midi ok into
> Cakewalk, or are 
> you using pre-made midi drum beats? Either way, do
> you have a way of 
> playing back the midi drums other than using your
> DTXpress module? A 
> Drum program/sampler etc..? Or even General Midi
> from your sound 
> card? I ask only to check to make sure that the
> problem is within 
> your DTXpress module hook-up/set-up...simple
> deduction my dear 
> Watson. If your midi timing is off still then you
> know where NOT to 
> look. If your computer plays the midi in time in
> this way, then it's 
> back to the module.
> 
> But as  recall correctly, you said that when you
> play back the midi 
> within Cakewalk, it triggers your DTXpress module to
> start playing 
> as if you've pressed the 'play' button...?
> 
> Have you considered innitializing (resetting) your
> DTXpress module 
> as LAST resort?..Before selling it :o
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner
> <thisgizmo@y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > IT is really hard for me to put CUBASE
> fundementals
> > with Sonar hard truths. I have been using cakewalk
> > since DOS, so I kind of know the proceedure there.
> 
> > Again, I am wrong about 7 times a day, so this
> might
> > make 8.
> > I set the computer to midi out with the sync to
> the
> > DTX module. From there I get lost, Because I have
> to
> > set two or three pages on the DTX to receive and
> play
> > the midi. 
> > The sad thing is, I did this before and it worked
> > wonderfully. Now I am left beating my head against
> the
> > wall and considering putting the darn thing up for
> > sale on ebay. Thank goodness for the $70 - $100
> > shipping fee any poor fool would have to pay. 
> > ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-11 by pcbye111

I have the DTXpressIII SP, and it can do some strange things.  Here is 
my setup:

DTXPressIIISP -->MOTU MTP AV--->To Keyboards/Tone Modules/LapTop with 
Sonar3/Patch Editors/Etc,Etc.

Now in straight out of the box or freshly rebooted the DTXpress puts 
out a lot of stuff -- major broadcast across all the channels.  It 
lights up the MOTU like X-Mas Tree.

In this "default Mode"  I have been able to play MIDI Files OK and I 
THINK Record a MIDI Track.  But the kicker is that you cannot use the 
DTX onboard Sequencer.  It will go waaaaay slow and trigger voices 
randomly.

I assume that the MOTO passes Clock to all cables/channels.  So my 
initial solution to debug was to unplug the In or the Out cable from 
the DTX and record or play back.

Subsequently, I set the DTX to EXT clock.  This cures the problem, but 
then you can't use the internal Sequencer for Jamming along with.  It 
needs a clock.  If I recall, the DTX has AUTO and EXT, no INT setting 
for clock.  When plugged into the MOTU I think it creates a "Clock 
Loop" when the DTX is set to "AUTO".  This may be true with software 
that has a "THRU" Setting for MIDI, although this doesn't occure until 
you actually start the Soft Sequencer or Player, then things get really 
messed up and anything can trigger.

So in reality, I would set the DTX clock to EXT and leave it at that, 
but one of the Guy's I Jam with wants to practice with the internal 
sessions and messes it all up when I leave it that way.  So, the next 
solution was to set the MOTU to block "Real Time Messages" on the MIDI 
out of the DTX.  Problem cured.

So, I would suggest you try to debug that way.  Start with just a MIDI 
out from the computer to MIDI in on the DTX and play a MIDI file -- One 
last note here.  Some MIDI files and some Programs, ie. SONAR can and 
will send a setup file to config everything for GM, XG, etc, and select 
voices before the actual MIDI file plays.  Some will tell you and let 
you say DON'T.  If possible set all your drum voices to "XG" and not 
GM.  This will get better playback and reduce the possability of some 
strange thing being sent.

If playback works, connect the Out from the DTX to the In on the 
Computer and record a track, swap the cables again and play it back.

If all works, then hook it all up.  Set the DTX clock to EXT, and give 
her a go.  Look for a "MIDI THRU" in your software and turn OFF/ON and 
try.

If you can get to at least one state where it works doing one thing, 
youe well on your way.

Hum!  Don't ever overlook the possabilty of a bad cable, 
interface/port.  Also, if you have a DTX III SP, set the module for a 
SP.  I don't have my Kit/Manual anywhere near, but if you set the DTX 
to GM, I think a bunch of functionality is lost --or-- it may be the 
otherway around.....

Anyway, start with one cable in one cable out.

Good luck and report back.  For something as simple a few little things 
can drive you up a tree.

Regards;

Peter
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Let me be clear. I have initialized, I have followed
> pages 42,92,110 and 118 in the manual. Even followed
> the MIDI section starting on page 129. I am no
> stranger to Midi and the Computer. I am not too savy
> with the DTX and what proceedures I have to do from
> initialization to have it play in sinq. Currently I am
> using my Roland Keyboard or an old AKAI GM sound
> module for the drum beats I have programmed and fed
> into my DAW (digital work station). I love the tones
> the DTX has and would like to use them.

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-11 by Edward Kleckner

Thank you for this post. 
   I suppose I should tell basically what I am trying
to do. I want to use the DTX at a Sound Module, from
the computer to the DAW. 
   Pardon my misunderstanding of jargon, but does that
apply to the "you cannot use the DTX onboard
Sequencer"? A sequencer is different from a sound
module, right? Also, I don't think I have XG. I have
been using GM I or II. 

Ed

--- pcbye111 <pcbye@...> wrote:

> I have the DTXpressIII SP, and it can do some
> strange things.  Here is 
> my setup:
> 
> DTXPressIIISP -->MOTU MTP AV--->To Keyboards/Tone
> Modules/LapTop with 
> Sonar3/Patch Editors/Etc,Etc.
> 
> Now in straight out of the box or freshly rebooted
> the DTXpress puts 
> out a lot of stuff -- major broadcast across all the
> channels.  It 
> lights up the MOTU like X-Mas Tree.
> 
> In this "default Mode"  I have been able to play
> MIDI Files OK and I 
> THINK Record a MIDI Track.  But the kicker is that
> you cannot use the 
> DTX onboard Sequencer.  It will go waaaaay slow and
> trigger voices 
> randomly.
> 
> I assume that the MOTO passes Clock to all
> cables/channels.  So my 
> initial solution to debug was to unplug the In or
> the Out cable from 
> the DTX and record or play back.
> 
> Subsequently, I set the DTX to EXT clock.  This
> cures the problem, but 
> then you can't use the internal Sequencer for
> Jamming along with.  It 
> needs a clock.  If I recall, the DTX has AUTO and
> EXT, no INT setting 
> for clock.  When plugged into the MOTU I think it
> creates a "Clock 
> Loop" when the DTX is set to "AUTO".  This may be
> true with software 
> that has a "THRU" Setting for MIDI, although this
> doesn't occure until 
> you actually start the Soft Sequencer or Player,
> then things get really 
> messed up and anything can trigger.
> 
> So in reality, I would set the DTX clock to EXT and
> leave it at that, 
> but one of the Guy's I Jam with wants to practice
> with the internal 
> sessions and messes it all up when I leave it that
> way.  So, the next 
> solution was to set the MOTU to block "Real Time
> Messages" on the MIDI 
> out of the DTX.  Problem cured.
> 
> So, I would suggest you try to debug that way. 
> Start with just a MIDI 
> out from the computer to MIDI in on the DTX and play
> a MIDI file -- One 
> last note here.  Some MIDI files and some Programs,
> ie. SONAR can and 
> will send a setup file to config everything for GM,
> XG, etc, and select 
> voices before the actual MIDI file plays.  Some will
> tell you and let 
> you say DON'T.  If possible set all your drum voices
> to "XG" and not 
> GM.  This will get better playback and reduce the
> possability of some 
> strange thing being sent.
> 
> If playback works, connect the Out from the DTX to
> the In on the 
> Computer and record a track, swap the cables again
> and play it back.
> 
> If all works, then hook it all up.  Set the DTX
> clock to EXT, and give 
> her a go.  Look for a "MIDI THRU" in your software
> and turn OFF/ON and 
> try.
> 
> If you can get to at least one state where it works
> doing one thing, 
> youe well on your way.
> 
> Hum!  Don't ever overlook the possabilty of a bad
> cable, 
> interface/port.  Also, if you have a DTX III SP, set
> the module for a 
> SP.  I don't have my Kit/Manual anywhere near, but
> if you set the DTX 
> to GM, I think a bunch of functionality is lost
> --or-- it may be the 
> otherway around.....
> 
> Anyway, start with one cable in one cable out.
> 
> Good luck and report back.  For something as simple
> a few little things 
> can drive you up a tree.
> 
> Regards;
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Let me be clear. I have initialized, I have
> followed
> > pages 42,92,110 and 118 in the manual. Even
> followed
> > the MIDI section starting on page 129. I am no
> > stranger to Midi and the Computer. I am not too
> savy
> > with the DTX and what proceedures I have to do
> from
> > initialization to have it play in sinq. Currently
> I am
> > using my Roland Keyboard or an old AKAI GM sound
> > module for the drum beats I have programmed and
> fed
> > into my DAW (digital work station). I love the
> tones
> > the DTX has and would like to use them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-12 by Ken Weygandt

What is this? Did you mean sync?
Ken
initialization to have it play in sinq. Currently I am

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-12 by Edward Kleckner

Yea, Ken, that is what I meant. 
Thanks for the help.

Ed

--- Ken Weygandt <boomer17@...> wrote:

> What is this? Did you mean sync?
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> initialization to have it play in sinq. Currently I
> am
> 



	
		
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Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-13 by zapaxe

Sorted yet?

Well, I've been experimenting myself just tonight here, and I 
stumble upon something that made me think of your problem...Likely 
it's not the same thing, but I was fiddling around with my 'To Host 
Switch' on the back of my DTXpresss III module & I got some 
strangeness. Changing the switch to the 'wrong' setting made the 
midi drum file played from Cubase into the DTX module activate/turn 
on an internal midi Yamaha song. 
This happends when I hit the play button on my transport bar. When I 
have the correct setting for the To Host switch (PC-2) it dosn't do 
that.

Just mentioning that again, in case you've bumped that rear switch 
to a wrong posistion...?

I've been experimenting with midi recording with my DTXpress kit 
into Cubase and having a software drum sampler play the sounds 
instead of the module. I can load various high quality samples into 
the program for a nearly limitless open ended  system. Though I like 
some sounds within my DTXpress modules, as you do, the ability to 
play sounds from 'In The Box' for midi play back is a very cool 
option.
This is not your question, but just thought I'd mention that.

Hey but let us know what's the fix for future reference.

Steve

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-13 by Edward Kleckner

ZAP, 
   As soon as I read your post, I bolted to my DTX II
and looked for a Host switch. NOPE, ain't got one.
Ahh, my hopes were raised and dashed in an instant. 
I haven't really fiddled around with it since I made
my first post. Gunshy, maybe..
Ed

--- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@...> wrote:

> Sorted yet?
> 
> Well, I've been experimenting myself just tonight
> here, and I 
> stumble upon something that made me think of your
> problem...Likely 
> it's not the same thing, but I was fiddling around
> with my 'To Host 
> Switch' on the back of my DTXpresss III module & I
> got some 
> strangeness. Changing the switch to the 'wrong'
> setting made the 
> midi drum file played from Cubase into the DTX
> module activate/turn 
> on an internal midi Yamaha song. 
> This happends when I hit the play button on my
> transport bar. When I 
> have the correct setting for the To Host switch
> (PC-2) it dosn't do 
> that.
> 
> Just mentioning that again, in case you've bumped
> that rear switch 
> to a wrong posistion...?
> 
> I've been experimenting with midi recording with my
> DTXpress kit 
> into Cubase and having a software drum sampler play
> the sounds 
> instead of the module. I can load various high
> quality samples into 
> the program for a nearly limitless open ended 
> system. Though I like 
> some sounds within my DTXpress modules, as you do,
> the ability to 
> play sounds from 'In The Box' for midi play back is
> a very cool 
> option.
> This is not your question, but just thought I'd
> mention that.
> 
> Hey but let us know what's the fix for future
> reference.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-13 by zapaxe

Mr. Ed,
Whaaaa???? :O ... Having a DTXpressI AND DTXpressIII module myself, 
BOTH of my modules have a 'To Host' switch located, if you have a 
DTXpressII module, then it HAS to have a To Host switch, just HAS 
to!..Or my name isn't Steve, or was is John, Dick,..or maybe 
Harry?...Unless you have a different moodule???
Anyway, if you open you manly manual, page 9 in my case for both the 
DTXpress I & III modules...Just under the Ride & Tom 1/4" jacks, 
there's a switch that's labled "Host Select" (marked by #26 
encircled in the manual). Switch selections are, from left to right 
facing the rear view, [Midi, PC-2, PC-1, Mac]. (Oposte if facing 
your module haed on mounted in the rack - Yeah, I made that mistake 
myself!) 
If you are using standard Midi Cables, then your switch should be 
set to the Midi position...I use PC-1 as I'm using a 'single' Mini 
Dim to D-Sub 9-pin serial cable connected 'directly' to my computer 
(which needs a Yamaha CBX driver to use)instead of using the two 
standard midi cables...Btw, that Midi Dim port on the DTXpress 
module is just to the right of that 'Host Select' switch.

As I said, not sure that's your particular problem, but well worth 
checking, as well as making sure you don't have a faulty Midi Cable 
as mmentioned by the other guy. Leave NO stone un-turned! ...One 
thing at a time, starting with cables, switches, then all 
settings...and midi channel 10 recieve on the DTXpress, unless you 
want horn sounds to play :/

Steve


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner <thisgizmo@y...> 
wrote:
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>
> ZAP, 
>    As soon as I read your post, I bolted to my DTX II
> and looked for a Host switch. NOPE, ain't got one.
> Ahh, my hopes were raised and dashed in an instant. 
> I haven't really fiddled around with it since I made
> my first post. Gunshy, maybe..
> Ed
> 
> --- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> 
> > Sorted yet?
> > 
> > Well, I've been experimenting myself just tonight
> > here, and I 
> > stumble upon something that made me think of your
> > problem...Likely 
> > it's not the same thing, but I was fiddling around
> > with my 'To Host 
> > Switch' on the back of my DTXpresss III module & I
> > got some 
> > strangeness. Changing the switch to the 'wrong'
> > setting made the 
> > midi drum file played from Cubase into the DTX
> > module activate/turn 
> > on an internal midi Yamaha song. 
> > This happends when I hit the play button on my
> > transport bar. When I 
> > have the correct setting for the To Host switch
> > (PC-2) it dosn't do 
> > that.
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 	
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Midi Sync

2005-11-13 by Edward Kleckner

Under my Ride output is my Left Out jack. I will check
the manual for HOST.

Ed

--- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@...> wrote:

> Mr. Ed,
> Whaaaa???? :O ... Having a DTXpressI AND DTXpressIII
> module myself, 
> BOTH of my modules have a 'To Host' switch located,
> if you have a 
> DTXpressII module, then it HAS to have a To Host
> switch, just HAS 
> to!..Or my name isn't Steve, or was is John,
> Dick,..or maybe 
> Harry?...Unless you have a different moodule???
> Anyway, if you open you manly manual, page 9 in my
> case for both the 
> DTXpress I & III modules...Just under the Ride & Tom
> 1/4" jacks, 
> there's a switch that's labled "Host Select" (marked
> by #26 
> encircled in the manual). Switch selections are,
> from left to right 
> facing the rear view, [Midi, PC-2, PC-1, Mac].
> (Oposte if facing 
> your module haed on mounted in the rack - Yeah, I
> made that mistake 
> myself!) 
> If you are using standard Midi Cables, then your
> switch should be 
> set to the Midi position...I use PC-1 as I'm using a
> 'single' Mini 
> Dim to D-Sub 9-pin serial cable connected 'directly'
> to my computer 
> (which needs a Yamaha CBX driver to use)instead of
> using the two 
> standard midi cables...Btw, that Midi Dim port on
> the DTXpress 
> module is just to the right of that 'Host Select'
> switch.
> 
> As I said, not sure that's your particular problem,
> but well worth 
> checking, as well as making sure you don't have a
> faulty Midi Cable 
> as mmentioned by the other guy. Leave NO stone
> un-turned! ...One 
> thing at a time, starting with cables, switches,
> then all 
> settings...and midi channel 10 recieve on the
> DTXpress, unless you 
> want horn sounds to play :/
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Edward Kleckner
> <thisgizmo@y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > ZAP, 
> >    As soon as I read your post, I bolted to my DTX
> II
> > and looked for a Host switch. NOPE, ain't got one.
> > Ahh, my hopes were raised and dashed in an
> instant. 
> > I haven't really fiddled around with it since I
> made
> > my first post. Gunshy, maybe..
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- zapaxe <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorted yet?
> > > 
> > > Well, I've been experimenting myself just
> tonight
> > > here, and I 
> > > stumble upon something that made me think of
> your
> > > problem...Likely 
> > > it's not the same thing, but I was fiddling
> around
> > > with my 'To Host 
> > > Switch' on the back of my DTXpresss III module &
> I
> > > got some 
> > > strangeness. Changing the switch to the 'wrong'
> > > setting made the 
> > > midi drum file played from Cubase into the DTX
> > > module activate/turn 
> > > on an internal midi Yamaha song. 
> > > This happends when I hit the play button on my
> > > transport bar. When I 
> > > have the correct setting for the To Host switch
> > > (PC-2) it dosn't do 
> > > that.
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	
> > 		
> > __________________________________ 
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