Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi

Further to my queries about the kick drum, then, is the following
problem the same sort of thing:

I played a gig last night and had problems with the crash cymbal
cutting out quickly, so it didn't really crash, it sounded more like a
high hat tss.

There was a lot of bass around on the stage, and it was also a bouncy
stage .. one of our singers started jumping up and down and I started
to worry about still being able to hit the drums right.

But, I had the same problem at practice a few times .. solid wooden
floor, but still a reasonable level of noise, but it was evening in a
detached house so it wasn't Knebworth.

I've not had the problem at home practicing on headphones.

It doesn't seem to matter how hard I hit it, and it's difficult to
reproduce outside the song.

Also, that crash cymbal, the choke seems to have broken, now when I
try to choke I get another trigger.

So I wonder if my crash is kernackered (shouldn't be, I'd have
expected my snare or hi-hat to go first), or is this down to settings
again, and if so, which setting is our best guess at being the
culprit?

J

J,

That sounds like cymbal choking.  If the choking has stopped working
it may have a loose wire/connection floating around inside the cymbal,
so it sporadically chokes.  However, it could be the audio affecting
it, but then you may be hitting differently (e.g. harder) when playing
live, so that could be why it doesn't happen with headphones.

Try a mono cable so choking cannot happen.

Keith.

Hi There,

I have had the same problem with my dual trigger crash cymbal. I 
ended up taking it apart to find that the rim "choke" sensor is a 
dual metallic strip continuity switch (ie: 2 contacts held apart by 
mylar backing) This sensor runs through the plastic frame of the 
cymbal under the rubber striking surface at the centre of the cymbal 
circumference. The point where it passes through the frame was 
cracked on my cymbal, which in turn produced a hairline fracture in 
the metal of the switch/sensor. This left me with lots of fun playing 
live with some lovely inconsistencies and false triggering. 

Long story short, I made up a patch of metallic strip using packing 
tape and tin foil, peeled back the affected area of the sensor strip, 
glued the patch in place and plastic welded the frame to avoid the 
same thing happening all over again. Yes, I am notoriously cheap ! 
But it works with no ill effects and there was no need for my wife to 
wonder if I would ever stop spending, spending spending...

Good Luck !

Peter







--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, john@... wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> Further to my queries about the kick drum, then, is the following
> problem the same sort of thing:
> 
> I played a gig last night and had problems with the crash cymbal
> cutting out quickly, so it didn't really crash, it sounded more 
like a
> high hat tss.
> 
> There was a lot of bass around on the stage, and it was also a 
bouncy
> stage .. one of our singers started jumping up and down and I 
started
> to worry about still being able to hit the drums right.
> 
> But, I had the same problem at practice a few times .. solid wooden
> floor, but still a reasonable level of noise, but it was evening in 
a
> detached house so it wasn't Knebworth.
> 
> I've not had the problem at home practicing on headphones.
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter how hard I hit it, and it's difficult to
> reproduce outside the song.
> 
> Also, that crash cymbal, the choke seems to have broken, now when I
> try to choke I get another trigger.
> 
> So I wonder if my crash is kernackered (shouldn't be, I'd have
> expected my snare or hi-hat to go first), or is this down to 
settings

> again, and if so, which setting is our best guess at being the
> culprit?
> 
> J
>