Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I can't seem to get the "middle" sound out of my hihat pedal and 
controller.  I can only get the 'closed' and 'wide open' sounds, and 
can only occasionally get the 'slightly open' hihat sound (if I 
press the pedal just right).

Is there a way to configure this to make it easy and consistent to 
get all three hihat position sounds?

Thanks!

Mike

Are you using a stereo cable?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@y..., dialog_mb@y... wrote:
> I can't seem to get the "middle" sound out of my hihat pedal and 
> controller.  I can only get the 'closed' and 'wide open' sounds, 
and 

> can only occasionally get the 'slightly open' hihat sound (if I 
> press the pedal just right).
> 
> Is there a way to configure this to make it easy and consistent to 
> get all three hihat position sounds?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike

Yes, I am using a stereo cable. I was playing with the hihat 
sensitivity today and found that I was able to reproduce the 
elusive "third sound" by ramping up the sensitivity. However, I only 
get it when I'm stomping on the pedal very rapidly, not when I'm 
hitting the trigger pad with the stick, hoping to find that "halfway 
open" sound.

Am I wrong to assume that there should be 3 sounds, depending on how 
hard you press the pedal with your foot?  Are there actually only 
two sounds (open and closed) that can be achieved that way?

Mike

--- In DTXpress@y..., edm@p... wrote:
> Are you using a stereo cable?
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., dialog_mb@y... wrote:
> > I can't seem to get the "middle" sound out of my hihat pedal and 
> > controller.  I can only get the 'closed' and 'wide open' sounds, 
> and 
> > can only occasionally get the 'slightly open' hihat sound (if I 
> > press the pedal just right).
> > 
> > Is there a way to configure this to make it easy and consistent 
to 

> > get all three hihat position sounds?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Mike

Hi,
The dtxpress standard pedal has full open/full close and
3 interim degrees of semi-open. The sensitivity switch bypasses
the first level. ( it's more of a "let's skip first gear" switch ).

If you're curious, about a year ago I tried to build a smoother pedal.
http://www.rainfall.com/dtxpress/pedal.html - The experiment worked and
I went on to other things but never actually built one.

The standard yamaha pedal is really cheap and uses membrane switches,
which is why is a little tricky to get 'in between'. You can, however, use
any pedal that supports interim levels, provided you wire it correctly.

KA


dialog_mb@... wrote:

> Yes, I am using a stereo cable. I was playing with the hihat
> sensitivity today and found that I was able to reproduce the
> elusive "third sound" by ramping up the sensitivity. However, I only
> get it when I'm stomping on the pedal very rapidly, not when I'm
> hitting the trigger pad with the stick, hoping to find that "halfway
> open" sound.
>
> Am I wrong to assume that there should be 3 sounds, depending on how
> hard you press the pedal with your foot?  Are there actually only
> two sounds (open and closed) that can be achieved that way?
>
> Mike
>
> --- In DTXpress@y..., edm@p... wrote:
> > Are you using a stereo cable?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., dialog_mb@y... wrote:
> > > I can't seem to get the "middle" sound out of my hihat pedal and
> > > controller.  I can only get the 'closed' and 'wide open' sounds,
> > and
> > > can only occasionally get the 'slightly open' hihat sound (if I
> > > press the pedal just right).
> > >
> > > Is there a way to configure this to make it easy and consistent
> to
> > > get all three hihat position sounds?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mike
>
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There are in between sounds on SOME hihat voices, But not all. I don't 
think any of the GM voices have them-only open and closed.
But several of the others have them. It should be very easy to get 
them with the factory sensitivity settings.Also decrease the 'decay' 
value(more sustain) on the closed sound for a much better sound. and 
the open sound needs to be adjusted for a more realistic transition 
between closed and partly open. More sustain lets the open hihats ring 
out longer, but it also makes the first partly open sound much more 
open. so its a trade-off.   Scott
--- In DTXpress@y..., Ken Anthony <info@r...> wrote:
> Hi,
> The dtxpress standard pedal has full open/full close and
> 3 interim degrees of semi-open. The sensitivity switch bypasses
> the first level. ( it's more of a "let's skip first gear" switch ).
> 
> If you're curious, about a year ago I tried to build a smoother 
pedal.
> http://www.rainfall.com/dtxpress/pedal.html - The experiment worked 
and
> I went on to other things but never actually built one.
> 
> The standard yamaha pedal is really cheap and uses membrane 
switches,
> which is why is a little tricky to get 'in between'. You can, 
however, use
> any pedal that supports interim levels, provided you wire it 
correctly.
> 
> KA
> 
> 
> dialog_mb@y... wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I am using a stereo cable. I was playing with the hihat
> > sensitivity today and found that I was able to reproduce the
> > elusive "third sound" by ramping up the sensitivity. However, I 
only
> > get it when I'm stomping on the pedal very rapidly, not when I'm
> > hitting the trigger pad with the stick, hoping to find that 
"halfway
> > open" sound.
> >
> > Am I wrong to assume that there should be 3 sounds, depending on 
how
> > hard you press the pedal with your foot?  Are there actually only
> > two sounds (open and closed) that can be achieved that way?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., edm@p... wrote:
> > > Are you using a stereo cable?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., dialog_mb@y... wrote:
> > > > I can't seem to get the "middle" sound out of my hihat pedal 
and
> > > > controller.  I can only get the 'closed' and 'wide open' 
sounds,
> > > and
> > > > can only occasionally get the 'slightly open' hihat sound (if 
I
> > > > press the pedal just right).
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to configure this to make it easy and 
consistent
> > to
> > > > get all three hihat position sounds?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> >
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