Digital BW, The Print

Jeff Randall wrote:

>  The replacement seals have an open hole in the middle to fit over the
>
> nipples in the printhead.  They will not hold a vacuum.

Quoting from the MIS site regarding these seals, "Be sure not to
puncture the new seals. When the cartridge is installed in the printer,
the printer posts will puncture the seals, just like on a new
cartridge." According to their description it sounds like they would
hold a vacuum. Jeff have you bought them before  Is that how you know
that they already have a hole in them?

Alas, I could not find where to buy them on the MIS site anyway, I saw
the explanation on how to use and install (partially quoted above) but
could not find where to purchase.

Thanks,
Mark
--
Mark Romine
MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
227 Fairway Drive
Bloomington, IL 61701
309-662-4258
http://www.markrominephoto.com



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Opps, you are correct. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Mark Romine <klick3@g...> 
wrote:
> Jeff Randall wrote:
> 
> >  The replacement seals have an open hole in the middle to fit 
over the
> >
> > nipples in the printhead.  They will not hold a vacuum.
> 
> Quoting from the MIS site regarding these seals, "Be sure not to
> puncture the new seals. When the cartridge is installed in the 
printer,
> the printer posts will puncture the seals, just like on a new
> cartridge." According to their description it sounds like they would
> hold a vacuum. Jeff have you bought them before  Is that how you 
know
> that they already have a hole in them?
> 
> Alas, I could not find where to buy them on the MIS site anyway, I 
saw
> the explanation on how to use and install (partially quoted above) 
but

> could not find where to purchase.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> --
> Mark Romine
> MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
> 227 Fairway Drive
> Bloomington, IL 61701
> 309-662-4258
> http://www.markrominephoto.com
> 
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Mark Romine <klick3@g...> 
wrote:

> >  The replacement seals <snip>

........

> 
> Alas, I could not find where to buy them on the MIS site anyway, I 
saw
> the explanation on how to use and install (partially quoted above) 
but
> could not find where to purchase.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark


Don't despair yet, Mark. You can try calling Bob Zeiss, he's got to 
have some lying around he can sell you. Also, I am POSITIVE I saw them 
on one other site months ago, I just can't locate it now. Spooky. I 
thought it was We-Ink site or possibly Mediastreet, but I can't seem 
to find anything but ink carts on We-Ink now...maybe I'm getting them 
mixed up with someone else.

The other site even had a detailed procedure for refilling carts using 
vacuum with these plugs, so I know they worked for a similar 
situation. Maybe search over other sites?
Jim H.

Jim:

jim hayes wrote:

> The other site even had a detailed procedure for refilling carts using
>
> vacuum with these plugs, so I know they worked for a similar
> situation. Maybe search over other sites?

Thanks you have been very helpful. I can not understand why MIS would
have them on their site but nowhere to purchase them. I probably should
call them ask to make sure.

Mark

--
Mark Romine
MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
227 Fairway Drive
Bloomington, IL 61701
309-662-4258
http://www.markrominephoto.com



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I think the only place you can get them is Inkjetmall.

Barbara

Mark Romine wrote:

> Thanks you have been very helpful. I can not understand why MIS would
> have them on their site but nowhere to purchase them. I probably should
> call them ask to make sure.
> 
>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mark Romine" <klick3@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:28 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: CIS Carts Reinstall


> What about if you pull the carts to clean the heads will this action also
break the vacumm?

Mark,

While I was doing some testing with hand loaded carts. I pulled the CIS
carts out and set them on the printer with the lid open just above the point
where the CIS arm ends. I plugged the bottom cart holes with the rivets from
MIS. All the ink ran out of the tubing and back into the bottles. After
about 10 days I changed the black CIS cart using a vacuum fill and installed
it along with the old color cart. As I started doing nozzle checks,
cleanings and purge prints ink was pulled back up out of the bottles and
into the color cart. Basically the pumping action of the heads is enough to
suck ink out of the bottles or the CIS wouldn't work.
>
> I have an unbelievable clog, worst I have ever seen in four or five years
of printing with Epsons, even after soaking the parking pad with cleaner
> and letting it stand overnite the same number of nozzels are still clogged
this morning. This is an 1160 btw.
>
> The way this whole problem started, I was getting decresing density in
midtones almost to the point of getting posterization. I had not printed
> much of anything in six to eight weeks, thus I assumed that the heads were
experiencing some build up. So I thought the heads needed cleaning,
> pull the CIS carts and flushed each port with windex and a siringe. This
resulted in nearly every nozzel being clogged, with cleaning cycles I have
> now got about 70 to 75% of nozzels opened. So I thought that I would try
cleaning the tubbing and I bought new CIS carts, these are now
> installed but no improvements on the clogggs.
>
> Anyone any suggestions?

When you flushed the ports with Windex did you just push the Windex through?
When I did this I also pulled the syringe back putting suction on the ports
to pull any debris out to the nozzles. You might try this again. Push Windex
through until everything is coming out clean on the paper towel underneath.
Then let the Windex stand in the nozzles for several hours and then suction
it out to get out any chunks that may be too large to go out the other side.
If this back flush is not clean you might want to repeat it.

Did you try running some Epson carts?

Martin Wesley

I had the same problem on my 1160 a few months back. I tried everything
that you mentioned. I finally gave up thinking that I needed a head
replacement. I took it to a local Epson warranty repair shop and they
unclogged it. The tech showed me what they used. It is a janitorial
cleaning product called Speedball 2000. He had just soaked the pad and
let the head sit on it for 48 hours. After a few cleaning cycles it was
a perfect nozzle check.

www.butchers.com/speedball2000.htm

**************************************


> I have an unbelievable clog, worst I have ever seen in four or five
years
of printing with Epsons, even after soaking the parking pad with cleaner
> and letting it stand overnite the same number of nozzels are still
clogged
this morning. This is an 1160 btw.
>
> The way this whole problem started, I was getting decresing density in
midtones almost to the point of getting posterization. I had not printed
> much of anything in six to eight weeks, thus I assumed that the heads
were
experiencing some build up. So I thought the heads needed cleaning,
> pull the CIS carts and flushed each port with windex and a siringe.
This
resulted in nearly every nozzel being clogged, with cleaning cycles I
have
> now got about 70 to 75% of nozzels opened. So I thought that I would
try
cleaning the tubbing and I bought new CIS carts, these are now

> installed but no improvements on the clogggs.
>
> Anyone any suggestions?

Jeff:

Jeff Randall wrote:

> Mark:  There is no significant vacuum once the carts are filled with
> ink.  The original vacuum is *replaced* with the ink that is sucked
> into the cart during the original fill.  The ink then is pulled into
> the cart be capilillary action and the tiny vacuum created when the
> ink is *pumped* through the printhead.

Thanks.

> You major clog could have been caused by pulling air through the head
> when you first installed the carts prior to vacuum filling the carts
> or drying out of the head during a prolonged installation process.

I think the later.

Regards,
Mark

--
Mark Romine
MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
227 Fairway Drive
Bloomington, IL 61701
309-662-4258
http://www.markrominephoto.com



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Matin:

Martin Wesley wrote:

> When you flushed the ports with Windex did you just push the Windex
> through?
> When I did this I also pulled the syringe back putting suction on the
> ports
> to pull any debris out to the nozzles. You might try this again. Push
> Windex
> through until everything is coming out clean on the paper towel
> underneath.
> Then let the Windex stand in the nozzles for several hours and then
> suction
> it out to get out any chunks that may be too large to go out the other
> side.
> If this back flush is not clean you might want to repeat it.

This finally did the trick, I have been trying to clear this bugger for
over two weeks. I actually used a similar product to Speedball 2000 that
my local janitorial supply house carried and let it set in the head for
24-36 hours. Soaking the pad did little to bust up this clog it was only
by filling the head with the cleaner and letting it sit like I did that
it finally cleared things out.

> Did you try running some Epson carts?

This helped but it did not completely solve the problem. The new Epson
carts cleared everything expect for four nozzles in the black head.

Thanks everyone,
Mark

--
Mark Romine
MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
227 Fairway Drive
Bloomington, IL 61701
309-662-4258
http://www.markrominephoto.com



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Mark and Everyone,
About three months ago I tried using my 1160 after it had been 
sitting almost a year without being turned on. I tried and tried to 
get rid of a clog in the black tube and cart of my CIS. I contacted 
Nomorecarts and they suggested several solutions and I read 
everything Inkjetmall had on the subject. I tried the syringe with 
Windex and Fantastic. 
Finally in desperation I took the tubing off of the black cart and 
ran a small wire into the tube and worked the plug of ink loose 
and the ink started flowing again.
The 1160 works fine now  and I won't let it go unused for that 
length of time again.
Thom Jackson

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Mark Romine <
klick3@g...> wrote:
> Matin:
> 
> Martin Wesley wrote:
> 
> > When you flushed the ports with Windex did you just push 
the Windex
> > through?
> > When I did this I also pulled the syringe back putting suction 
on the
> > ports
> > to pull any debris out to the nozzles. You might try this again. 
Push
> > Windex
> > through until everything is coming out clean on the paper 
towel
> > underneath.
> > Then let the Windex stand in the nozzles for several hours 
and then
> > suction
> > it out to get out any chunks that may be too large to go out the 
other
> > side.
> > If this back flush is not clean you might want to repeat it.
> 
> This finally did the trick, I have been trying to clear this bugger 
for
> over two weeks. I actually used a similar product to Speedball 
2000 that
> my local janitorial supply house carried and let it set in the 
head for
> 24-36 hours. Soaking the pad did little to bust up this clog it 
was only
> by filling the head with the cleaner and letting it sit like I did that
> it finally cleared things out.
> 
> > Did you try running some Epson carts?
> 
> This helped but it did not completely solve the problem. The 
new Epson
> carts cleared everything expect for four nozzles in the black 
head.

> 
> Thanks everyone,
> Mark
>

Mark,

Thank you very much for getting back to the list and letting us know what
worked. Too often people ask questions and various answers are given, but we
never hear about the outcome.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Romine" <klick3@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: CIS Carts REinstall


> Matin:
>
> Martin Wesley wrote:
>
> > When you flushed the ports with Windex did you just push the Windex
> > through?
> > When I did this I also pulled the syringe back putting suction on the
> > ports
> > to pull any debris out to the nozzles. You might try this again. Push
> > Windex
> > through until everything is coming out clean on the paper towel
> > underneath.
> > Then let the Windex stand in the nozzles for several hours and then
> > suction
> > it out to get out any chunks that may be too large to go out the other
> > side.
> > If this back flush is not clean you might want to repeat it.
>
> This finally did the trick, I have been trying to clear this bugger for
> over two weeks. I actually used a similar product to Speedball 2000 that
> my local janitorial supply house carried and let it set in the head for
> 24-36 hours. Soaking the pad did little to bust up this clog it was only
> by filling the head with the cleaner and letting it sit like I did that
> it finally cleared things out.
>
> > Did you try running some Epson carts?
>
> This helped but it did not completely solve the problem. The new Epson
> carts cleared everything expect for four nozzles in the black head.
>
> Thanks everyone,
> Mark
>
> --
> Mark Romine
> MARK ROMINE PHOTOGRAPHY
> 227 Fairway Drive
> Bloomington, IL 61701
> 309-662-4258
> http://www.markrominephoto.com
>
>
>
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