Digital BW, The Print

I just checked the new bowhaus site:

http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/

You can now download the Printing part of the new software for free, including 
a bunch of profiles for the 1280, 2200 and 7000.

What gives, you ask?....  those who know the story of Open Source code can 
tell it better than I can. But briefly, the software that bowhaus markets as 2 
applications - Inkjet Control  (IJC) and OpenPrintMaker (OPM) - have different 
licenses. IJC is built on proprietary code and is sold and licenced like any 
commercial software. This is the program that makes profiles. OPM, however, 
which actually accepts an image file and runs the printer, is built on Open 
Source code and hence belongs in the public domain (also the reason for the 
name). 

As a result, you can download OPM right now and, if the profiles available fit 
your printer/ink/paper choices, you can be off to the races - for free. You also 
get to see what OPM does and doesn't do (like no custom page sizes, no roll 
functions for the 7000, max page size 24x36, but a nice image adjust feature 
for brightness and contrast).

Ah, but not so fast: The blender portion of OPM (where you can pick 2 profiles 
and blend between them) will not work without IJC. And, of course, you also 
can't make new profiles, or tweak the canned ones.  For that you have to pay 
for  IJC.

As a reminder - this is for Mac OS 8 and 9 only.


Antonis

Very interesting stuff.  I downloaded the software and info.
I don't have any of the printers mentioned but the documentation
is very enlightening.  The OPM is based on the gimp-print code
that I have been working with lately.  They must have worked
on it to support independent ink control and made it work on
OS 9 instead of OS X.   So I would think it's not far to get it
to run back on OS X.   

Roy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> I just checked the new bowhaus site:
> 
> http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/
> 
> You can now download the Printing part of the new software for 
free, including 
> a bunch of profiles for the 1280, 2200 and 7000.
> 
> What gives, you ask?....  those who know the story of Open 
Source code can 
> tell it better than I can. But briefly, the software that bowhaus 
markets as 2 
> applications - Inkjet Control  (IJC) and OpenPrintMaker (OPM) - 
have different 
> licenses. IJC is built on proprietary code and is sold and 
licenced like any 
> commercial software. This is the program that makes profiles. 
OPM, however, 
> which actually accepts an image file and runs the printer, is 
built on Open 
> Source code and hence belongs in the public domain (also the 
reason for the 
> name). 
> 
> As a result, you can download OPM right now and, if the 
profiles available fit 
> your printer/ink/paper choices, you can be off to the races - for 
free. You also 
> get to see what OPM does and doesn't do (like no custom 
page sizes, no roll 
> functions for the 7000, max page size 24x36, but a nice image 
adjust feature 
> for brightness and contrast).
> 
> Ah, but not so fast: The blender portion of OPM (where you can 
pick 2 profiles 
> and blend between them) will not work without IJC. And, of 
course, you also 
> can't make new profiles, or tweak the canned ones.  For that 
you have to pay 

> for  IJC.
> 
> As a reminder - this is for Mac OS 8 and 9 only.
> 
> 
> Antonis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@h...> wrote:

> I don't have any of the printers mentioned but the documentation
> is very enlightening.  

Roy,

what printers are you working with? I'd be curious on your take of all this since 
you are already familiar with gimp-print.

Antonis

Thanks again Antonis.  I just downloaded OPM and gave it a whirl with  
my 2200, using your warm and cool profiles that were provided in the  
package.  You can use the blender.  I got some very nice looking step  
wedges and full prints using blends in the range of 50% warm/cool to  
70% warm and 30% cool.  Needless to say I'm very impressed with the  
software and the results.  The blender feature is really fantastic and  
your "experimental" profiles for the 2200 are excellent.

Carl

On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 08:26  PM, Antonis Ricos wrote:

> I just checked the new bowhaus site:
>
> http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/
>
> You can now download the Printing part of the new software for free,  
> including
> a bunch of profiles for the 1280, 2200 and 7000.
>
> What gives, you ask?....  those who know the story of Open Source code  
> can
> tell it better than I can. But briefly, the software that bowhaus  
> markets as 2
> applications - Inkjet Control  (IJC) and OpenPrintMaker (OPM) - have  
> different
> licenses. IJC is built on proprietary code and is sold and licenced  
> like any
> commercial software. This is the program that makes profiles. OPM,  
> however,
> which actually accepts an image file and runs the printer, is built on  
> Open
> Source code and hence belongs in the public domain (also the reason  
> for the
> name).
>
> As a result, you can download OPM right now and, if the profiles  
> available fit
> your printer/ink/paper choices, you can be off to the races - for  
> free. You also
> get to see what OPM does and doesn't do (like no custom page sizes, no  
> roll
> functions for the 7000, max page size 24x36, but a nice image adjust  
> feature
> for brightness and contrast).
>
> Ah, but not so fast: The blender portion of OPM (where you can pick 2  
> profiles
> and blend between them) will not work without IJC. And, of course, you  
> also
> can't make new profiles, or tweak the canned ones.  For that you have  
> to pay
> for  IJC.
>
> As a reminder - this is for Mac OS 8 and 9 only.
>
>
> Antonis
>
>
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Thanks Carl!  Glad you liked my profiles. 

The reason for the "experimental" designation is simply that they can be made 
better.  The shipping "cool" relies on just Cyan (the warm is only gray and MK 
black). It really should use C, LC, and a bit of LM / M to bring it into real  
neutral territory and blend out some dots in the lighter areas. Of course the 
combinations are endless - and I haven't even gotten to the Photo Black!....

And.. I stand corrected - I thought the blender only worked if you had IJC 
installed (which I have), so I couldn't really verify that.

Antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:

> Thanks again Antonis.  I just downloaded OPM and gave it a whirl with  
> my 2200, using your warm and cool profiles that were provided in the  
> package.  You can use the blender.  I got some very nice looking step  
> wedges and full prints using blends in the range of 50% warm/cool to  
> 70% warm and 30% cool.  Needless to say I'm very impressed with the  
> software and the results.  The blender feature is really fantastic and  
> your "experimental" profiles for the 2200 are excellent.
> 
> Carl

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy 
Harrington" 
> <roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> > I don't have any of the printers mentioned but the 
documentation
> > is very enlightening.  
> 
> Roy,
> 
> what printers are you working with? I'd be curious on your take 
of all this since 
> you are already familiar with gimp-print.
> 
> Antonis

Hi Antonis,

I've been using an 1160 for quite a while and I just got a 7500
(still working out some connection issues I think).  
Both have VM-Sepia in them.  I discovered gimp-print as a
way to use old printers on OS X.  The GP software has a lot
of great stuff in it -- lots of printers, lots of dithering capability,
lots of different ways to lay down dots.  The two things that
have concerned me a little were the linearization of individual
inks and the light/dark ink transitions.  Working with the 1160
has been quite easy but I haven't done much on the 7500 yet.
I've just done it "by hand" so to speak with a little help using
spreadsheets.

Anyway, it looks like the Bowhaus guys have addressed both
of these issues.  It looks like you tested it out with a 2200 --
is there any help/automation in designing the shape of the
curves i.e. partitioning inks?  For instance, how was the
light black to black transition formed?

Roy

The openprintmaker v1.0 also works quite well running under classic in
Jaguar.  Ink Jet Control has been carbonized...so runs native under OSX.  My
guess is that when openprintmaker is moved to OSX we will get an increase in
features...including custom paper sizes and may be able to break the 24x36
limitation as well.

Robert

On 3/27/03 7:12 PM, "Antonis Ricos" <antonisphoto@...> wrote:

> Thanks Carl!  Glad you liked my profiles.
> 
> The reason for the "experimental" designation is simply that they can be made
> better.  The shipping "cool" relies on just Cyan (the warm is only gray and MK
> black). It really should use C, LC, and a bit of LM / M to bring it into real
> neutral territory and blend out some dots in the lighter areas. Of course the
> combinations are endless - and I haven't even gotten to the Photo Black!....
> 
> And.. I stand corrected - I thought the blender only worked if you had IJC
> installed (which I have), so I couldn't really verify that.
> 
> Antonis
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <scho@m...> wrote:
>> Thanks again Antonis.  I just downloaded OPM and gave it a whirl with
>> my 2200, using your warm and cool profiles that were provided in the
>> package.  You can use the blender.  I got some very nice looking step
>> wedges and full prints using blends in the range of 50% warm/cool to
>> 70% warm and 30% cool.  Needless to say I'm very impressed with the
>> software and the results.  The blender feature is really fantastic and
>> your "experimental" profiles for the 2200 are excellent.
>> 
>> Carl
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@h...> wrote:
..
> I've been using an 1160 for quite a while and I just got a 7500
> (still working out some connection issues I think). 


Roy,

These are both supported by OPM 1.02 / USB / OS 9. It's just a matter of 
making profiles for your  VM inkset.

 
>I discovered gimp-print as a
> way to use old printers on OS X.

OPM should work in classic (haven't tried this version myself, but previous 
versions used to). Either way, I am sure an OS X version is coming soon. 



>Working with the 1160
> has been quite easy 


... of course, 4 inks are the easiest!


>but I haven't done much on the 7500 yet.

I found that using the double ink positions (2 magentas and 2 cyans) allowed 
me to reduce dots a bit better. Of course there are better uses for these 
positions (toners etc).


> It looks like you tested it out with a 2200 --

that just happened to be an easy profile to throw together. My real tests (i.e. for 
high end bw prints) were with the 7000 and the 1280.



> is there any help/automation in designing the shape of the
> curves i.e. partitioning inks? 

If you open any of the supplied profiles with IJC, you will be more than halfway 
there. There is no mystery once you see the curves for each ink - especially 
for someone with your experience. I think bowhaus is also supplying a 
"template" profile for guidance in the shape of each ink.


 For instance, how was the
> light black to black transition formed?

It really depends on the inkset, but a healthy dose of undercolor removal in 
the cyan position (or the light gray in the case of the 2200) helps the dmax. 
IOW as the black rises towards 100%, the other inks drop off  (but not to 
nothing) to allow for a deeper black. It's the opposite of what dyes may need 
and the opposite of how the old piezo software worked, where the black was 
supposed to have a lot of cyan under it - to avoid showing the rapid fade of 
that inkset, but at the expense of dmax.


I think as soon as you see how a profile is set up in IJC, you will have more 
answers than I can type here. And nothing is fixed in stone either, as far as 
how a profile's curves are done. 

Antonis

And, thus, my question is answered: it *does* work with Mac OS 
8.6. To quote Bugs Bunny, "Ahh, there's good news tonight!"

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:

> I just checked the new bowhaus site:
> 
> http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/
> 
>You can now download the Printing part of the new software for 
>free, including a bunch of profiles for the 1280, 2200 and 7000.
> 
>What gives, you ask?....  those who know the story of Open 
>Source code can tell it better than I can. But briefly, the software 
>that bowhaus markets as 2 applications - Inkjet Control  (IJC) 
>and OpenPrintMaker (OPM) - have different licenses. IJC is built 
>on proprietary code and is sold and licenced like any 
>commercial software. This is the program that makes profiles. 
>OPM, however, which actually accepts an image file and runs 
>the printer, is built on Open Source code and hence belongs in 
>the public domain (also the reason for the name). 
> 
> As a result, you can download OPM right now and, if the 
>profiles available fit your printer/ink/paper choices, you can be 
>off to the races - for free. You also get to see what OPM does 
>and doesn't do (like no custom page sizes, no roll functions for 
>the 7000, max page size 24x36, but a nice image adjust feature 
>for brightness and contrast).
> 
> Ah, but not so fast: The blender portion of OPM (where you can 
>pick 2 profiles and blend between them) will not work without 
>IJC. And, of course, you also can't make new profiles, or tweak 
>the canned ones.  For that you have to pay 
>for  IJC.
> 
> As a reminder - this is for Mac OS 8 and 9 only.
> 
> 
> Antonis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> I just checked the new bowhaus site:
> 
> http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/
> 
> You can now download the Printing part of the new software for 
free, including 
> a bunch of profiles for the 1280, 2200 and 7000.


Antonis,
just gave it a try on my 7500 using your 7000 NW Piezotone 
profile.
It works great even with the selenium tone new piezotones and 
on EAM, which I put in the printer first.
Dots ??
Can´t see any. Smooth grey tansitions.
Congratulations.
Bernd

Bernd,

that's great news! thanks for posting your results.  I expect that a profil=
e for any 
Piezotone set will work for any other PT flavor  as long as the black ink i=
s in 
the same family. My 7000 profile uses the FS black (pre-Eboni). That was 
before Museum Black became available and was a quick fix for the Original 
Black of the Piezotones that faded before my eyes.  

As for dots, one of the benefits of  writing your own profiles, is that you=
 can 
decide what to do with those extra second Cyan and Magenta inks. Unlike 
other software, you know exactly if and when they are being used and when 
they "come in" on the scale. By staggering the C/LC and the M/LM I was able=
 
to reduce the "device dots" of the 7000 further, which by today's standards=
 
look like golfballs.  

That profile, by the way, was for Photo Rag if I remember well, which behav=
es 
differently than EAM, but, hey, for purposes of demonstration, it's good 
enough! When I get a minute I'll cover some more papers. Or... maybe you 
will, if you decide to buy IJC!

Thanks again for the good words.

Antonis



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, " Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." 
<ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:

> Antonis,
> just gave it a try on my 7500 using your 7000 NW Piezotone 
> profile.
> It works great even with the selenium tone new piezotones and 
> on EAM, which I put in the printer first.
> Dots ??
> Can´t see any. Smooth grey tansitions.
> Congratulations.
> Bernd

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> Bernd,
> 
> that's great news! thanks for posting your results.  I expect that 
a profil=
> e for any 
> Piezotone set will work for any other PT flavor  as long as the 
black ink i=
> s in 
> the same family. My 7000 profile uses the FS black 
(pre-Eboni). That was 
> before Museum Black became available and was a quick fix for 
the Original 
> Black of the Piezotones that faded before my eyes.  


Antonis, 

you may remember that this is exactly my current solution for my 
7500 printer:
MIS FS Black  in a combo with CcMmY New Piezotones 
(selenium). Maybe this is the reason why  your profile works so 
good for me.

Just made a second comparison by printing the same file via IP5 
and OPM with the same printer (7500) on the same sheet of 
paper.  Can hardly tell the prints apart, no obvious difference in 
print quality.
The OPM sample is a little bit less contrasty, but it is easy to 
control this with the brightness and contrast sliders. 
Only problem with OPM so far:
can´t manage to center the print on the paper;  -  even if I check 
the "center" box, the print is put at the top margin of the sheet.

BTW - are there any further test-profiles for the 7000 available??

best 
Bernd

BTW:
I can print via OPM in The Classic mode of OSX on the 7500. But 
the centering problem remains. For me it is not possible to 
center an image on this LF printer, even with the box checked.
Bernd





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, " 
Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"Antonis 
> Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> > Bernd,
> > 
> > that's great news! thanks for posting your results.  I expect 
that 
> a profil=
> > e for any 
> > Piezotone set will work for any other PT flavor  as long as the 
> black ink i=
> > s in 
> > the same family. My 7000 profile uses the FS black 
> (pre-Eboni). That was 
> > before Museum Black became available and was a quick fix 
for 
> the Original 
> > Black of the Piezotones that faded before my eyes.  
> 
> 
> Antonis, 
> 
> you may remember that this is exactly my current solution for 
my 
> 7500 printer:
> MIS FS Black  in a combo with CcMmY New Piezotones 
> (selenium). Maybe this is the reason why  your profile works so 
> good for me.
> 
> Just made a second comparison by printing the same file via 
IP5 
> and OPM with the same printer (7500) on the same sheet of 
> paper.  Can hardly tell the prints apart, no obvious difference in 
> print quality.
> The OPM sample is a little bit less contrasty, but it is easy to 
> control this with the brightness and contrast sliders. 
> Only problem with OPM so far:
> can´t manage to center the print on the paper;  -  even if I check 
> the "center" box, the print is put at the top margin of the sheet.
> 
> BTW - are there any further test-profiles for the 7000 
available??

> 
> best 
> Bernd

I have just tried OPM with my 2200 and the OEM inks. By "Blending" the warm
and cool versions of the EAM profiles at 85% warm and 15% cool I am getting
the best grayscale I have seen from the printer. Of course I don't have IP
yet since I already invested in a version for the PC and my 7000 with MIS
inks. Very nice, thanks.

Wendel

Glad to hear it Wendel. As I expected different people will have different 
preferences as to what "neutral" is. 

Antonis





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Wendel White 
<wendel@b...> wrote:
> I have just tried OPM with my 2200 and the OEM inks. By "Blending" the 
warm
> and cool versions of the EAM profiles at 85% warm and 15% cool I am 
getting

> the best grayscale I have seen from the printer. Of course I don't have IP
> yet since I already invested in a version for the PC and my 7000 with MIS
> inks. Very nice, thanks.
> 
> Wendel

> Just made a second comparison by printing the same file via IP5 
> and OPM with the same printer (7500) on the same sheet of 
> paper.  Can hardly tell the prints apart, no obvious difference in 
> print quality.

Bernd,

but you may see a difference in the "interpretation" of the grayscale 
depending on whether you are using ImagePrint in 1.8 or 2.2  Even then, it =

won't match the densities of the "aims"  as defined in IJC. Good to know th=
ere 
is no quality difference, though, considering there is a $1,200 difference =

between the two!!! 

> The OPM sample is a little bit less contrasty, but it is easy to 
> control this with the brightness and contrast sliders. 

Mostly, I believe it is "less contrasty" because of the open shadows that I=
JC 
always produces. I say... better more open than more "plugged up"!



> Only problem with OPM so far:
> can´t manage to center the print on the paper;  -  even if I check 
> the "center" box, the print is put at the top margin of the sheet.


That's not supposed to happen. I have not tested that aspect of the shippin=
g 
version. I will test and let you know. But for precision centering - which =
OPM 
is absolutely capable of, you have to follow this procedure.

- go to the prefs, set them to 0,0
- Print a black square of your making (like 2x2cm) after you set the Top/le=
ft to 
0,0.
- Measure the distance of the top left edge of the square from the edge of =
the 
print, and enter those numbers (for top and left) in mm in the prefs. 

After this, and assuming you place your paper in the 7000 exactly at the 
same  position to the right, centering should work (unless the OPM1.02 
release has a bug it didn't have in earlier -beta - versions). 


> 
> BTW - are there any further test-profiles for the 7000 available??

....well... as soon as I make some, I'll upload them here and let everyone =

know.


Regards,

Antonis

> Glad to hear it Wendel. As I expected different people will have different
> preferences as to what "neutral" is.
> 
> Antonis

For my eye, it looks very close to Photo-Rag with MIS-FS which I know is not
neutral but I like it.

Wendel

I believe that there is a centering calibration procedure.  Check the manual
Bernd...I haven't used it yet with my 7000, its possible that it is a
feature in IJC and not in the openprintmaker application.  It allows you to
print corner cross hairs...measure how far they are from the edges...enter
that and then the program readjusts printing to make sure that the image is
centered given your usual paper loading technique.  I remember Antonis and I
suffering with a much earlier version on this regard and Bowhaus came up
with an excellent solution that was unique among the programs that I had
used.

Robert

On 3/29/03 3:15 AM, "Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@...> wrote:

> BTW:
> I can print via OPM in The Classic mode of OSX on the 7500. But
> the centering problem remains. For me it is not possible to
> center an image on this LF printer, even with the box checked.
> Bernd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "
> Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Antonis 
>> Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
>>> Bernd,
>>> 
>>> that's great news! thanks for posting your results.  I expect
> that 
>> a profil=
>>> e for any 
>>> Piezotone set will work for any other PT flavor  as long as the
>> black ink i=
>>> s in 
>>> the same family. My 7000 profile uses the FS black
>> (pre-Eboni). That was
>>> before Museum Black became available and was a quick fix
> for 
>> the Original 
>>> Black of the Piezotones that faded before my eyes.
>> 
>> 
>> Antonis, 
>> 
>> you may remember that this is exactly my current solution for
> my 
>> 7500 printer:
>> MIS FS Black  in a combo with CcMmY New Piezotones
>> (selenium). Maybe this is the reason why  your profile works so
>> good for me.
>> 
>> Just made a second comparison by printing the same file via
> IP5 
>> and OPM with the same printer (7500) on the same sheet of
>> paper.  Can hardly tell the prints apart, no obvious difference in
>> print quality.
>> The OPM sample is a little bit less contrasty, but it is easy to
>> control this with the brightness and contrast sliders.
>> Only problem with OPM so far:
>> can´t manage to center the print on the paper;  -  even if I check
>> the "center" box, the print is put at the top margin of the sheet.
>> 
>> BTW - are there any further test-profiles for the 7000
> available??
>> 
>> best 
>> Bernd
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert 
Morrison <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> I believe that there is a centering calibration procedure.  Check 
the manual
> Bernd...I haven't used it yet with my 7000, its possible that it is 
a
> feature in IJC and not in the openprintmaker application.  It 
allows you to
> print corner cross hairs...measure how far they are from the 
edges...enter
> that and then the program readjusts printing to make sure that 
the image is
> centered given your usual paper loading technique. 


Antonis, Robert,
indeed, there is a  centering procedure in the manual of OPM 
(troubleshooting) - and it is easy and works perfectly.
Sorry to have bee too lazy  to RTFM.
Thanks.
Bernd

> Sorry to have bee too lazy  to RTFM.
> Thanks.
> Bernd


...boy, your English is getting really good!

: - )

Antonis

No problem...I don't like manuals either.  The centering is great feature
particularly for the large format printers.

Robert

On 3/31/03 10:16 AM, "Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." <ruhrfoto@...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert
> Morrison <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
>> I believe that there is a centering calibration procedure.  Check
> the manual
>> Bernd...I haven't used it yet with my 7000, its possible that it is
> a
>> feature in IJC and not in the openprintmaker application.  It
> allows you to
>> print corner cross hairs...measure how far they are from the
> edges...enter
>> that and then the program readjusts printing to make sure that
> the image is
>> centered given your usual paper loading technique.
> 
> 
> Antonis, Robert,
> indeed, there is a  centering procedure in the manual of OPM
> (troubleshooting) - and it is easy and works perfectly.
> Sorry to have bee too lazy  to RTFM.
> Thanks.
> Bernd
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis 
Ricos" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> > Sorry to have bee too lazy  to RTFM.
> > Thanks.
> > Bernd
> 
> 
> ...boy, your English is getting really good!
> 
> : - )
> 
> Antonis

Thanks for the compliment, Antonis,
but, as you may have recognized, my English is far away from 
being perfect (see the missing "n" in the quoted sentence ;-).
Anyhow - it is far away of making me capable to understand the 
difference between a curve-tweaking and a curve-linearization - 
so I will stay back for a moment  and watch how things will 
develop - before I buy the professional version (IJC) of the OPM 
software. 
(Well, ...  I´ve been looking after a densitomerter, though)
Good luck with the project.
Bernd

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, " Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." 
<ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:

....
> Anyhow - it is far away of making me capable to understand the 
> difference between a curve-tweaking and a curve-linearization - 
> so I will stay back for a moment  and watch how things will 
> develop - before I buy the professional version (IJC) of the OPM 
> software. 

Bernd,

kidding aside, have you read the manual? I'd be happy to explain - in "plain" 
English - if you'd like. 
And... frankly, paying Euros for an american product  should make it a 
bargain these days, no?

Antonis

> And... frankly, paying Euros for an american product  should 
make it a 
> bargain these days, no?
> 
> Antonis

Dear Antonis,
this is a can of worms and I  don´t know  if we should open it.
Buying American products in good OLD Europe today could 
easily become something like eating French Fries in the US.
However, neither will I spill my American Ink into the rinse, nor 
will I refuse to buy your promising software. 
You may have noticed that I am looking for a densitometer 
meanwhile. 
When I have gotten one, I´d be happy to come back to your offer .
Best
Bernd