Digital BW, The Print

The 1280 IS the 1290 outside the U.S.

Jerry




"Richard Vanek (ELN)" wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> you must answer this question thousand times, but I wasn't able to find anything with limited search options on yahoo groups.
> 
> I see people here talking about Epson 1280, 1160, 3000.
> I looked what Epson is offering today and I haven't find neither 1280 nor 1160.
> 
> I saw 1290 is that printer replacing 1280?
> Is the 890 A4 version of 1290?
> 
> I like to print b&w and sometimes also color photos. A4 size is enough for me currently. Is a 890 than option? I like to use MIS VM hex-set with Paul Roark workflow. I am curious about curves for this printer.
> 
> Thank you very much for any advice help and support!
> 
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Hi,

> I had thought that the 1160 was still available in the EU but these 

I have found it here in NL as well after longer search (sorry I am living in NL even my e-mail is .se). And I also have found workflow for it as well for others at www.inksupply.com by Paul Roark.

What is the difference in final print between 1160 and 1280 using MIS VM?


> Switching a printer back and forth between color cartridges and a 
> quad ink setup is not very practical. The amount of ink and time lost 
> is likely to quickly be greater than the cost of a second printer 
> used just with the quad inks, especially an 1160 or 890.

I thought so, but my budget is currently used also for buying other stuff, but maybe later I will second one. My primary goal is b&w.

---
Richard Vanek

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Richard Vanek (ELN)" 
<Richard.Vanek@e...> wrote:

(snip)

> I have found it here in NL as well after longer search (sorry I am 
living in NL even my e-mail is .se). And I also have found workflow 
for it as well for others at www.inksupply.com by Paul Roark.
> 
Richard,

I am glad you found a local source for printers. If you go with the 
MIS VM inks, check back with the group before you start, to see if 
you have the most recent curves. The MIS site is not always up to 
date.

> What is the difference in final print between 1160 and 1280 using
> MIS VM?

I have seen excellent prints from both. There has been a lot of 
discussion about PiezoBW on the 1160 and banding issues that seem to 
be very dependent upon the individual printer. A really good 1160 
makes really good Piezo prints. This may be less of an issue if you 
are using the Epson driver with the MIS VM inkset.

People are just now starting to use 1280's with B&W ink sets so there 
isn't much information at this point. If there is a difference, it 
may be that the new design of the 1280 offers better paper handling 
and less banding issues but there is no evidence to support this at 
this time.

If cost is a consideration than go with the 1160. The 1160 also has 
the advange of having more choices in terms of ink sets and software 
than the 1280.

Let us know how it goes.

Martin Wesley
> 
> 
> > Switching a printer back and forth between color cartridges and a 
> > quad ink setup is not very practical. The amount of ink and time 
lost 
> > is likely to quickly be greater than the cost of a second printer 
> > used just with the quad inks, especially an 1160 or 890.
> 
> I thought so, but my budget is currently used also for buying other 
stuff, but maybe later I will second one. My primary goal is b&w.

> 
> ---
> Richard Vanek

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> The 1280 IS the 1290 outside the U.S.


Jerry, 
I can´t believe that. 
I have an 1290 with MIS VM inks.  
If I use Paul´s 1280 curves (Mac or PC) the results are awfull.

(Paul, I sent new 21 step prints from all your curves with my print 
exchange picture. Maybe that works better than scanned prints 
via e-mail.)

Or is anybody out there using Paul´s curves on a 1290 with 
success??

Bernd

Bernd,

I am really sorry to hear there is such a difference between the 1280 
and the 1290 drivers. I wonder what Epson's reasoning is for this.

Did you try the latest set of curves adjusted for a media setting 
of "Photo Paper" with a 1440 or 2880 dpi?

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., " Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." 
<ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > The 1280 IS the 1290 outside the U.S.
> 
> 
> Jerry, 
> I can´t believe that. 
> I have an 1290 with MIS VM inks.  
> If I use Paul´s 1280 curves (Mac or PC) the results are awfull.
> 
> (Paul, I sent new 21 step prints from all your curves with my print 
> exchange picture. Maybe that works better than scanned prints 
> via e-mail.)
> 
> Or is anybody out there using Paul´s curves on a 1290 with 
> success??
> 
> Bernd