Digital BW, The Print

Unlike many, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is:

As many on this list are aware I am running for NJ State Assembly (our
lower legislative house).

I would like to point out a fact that may be of interest to all here:

1)    In answering the 2003 Sierra Club Legislative Issues
questionnaire, I have offered a commitment to sponsor legislation (to
parallel that already passed in the EU) that would:

a)    Prohibit sales in-state of printers designed to prohibit recycling
of consumable components (i.e. chipped cartridges etc.)

b)    Prohibit state governmental entities from purchasing printers
incorporating design features meant to prohibit such reuse/recycling.

c)    The legislation would be drafted to take initial effect one year
after similar EU rules.



Now back to your regularly scheduled channel.

Keith



"Just some guy," and caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
Publications), at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/

"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together
guys"

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V. 
> a)    Prohibit sales in-state of printers designed to 
> prohibit recycling of consumable components (i.e. chipped 
> cartridges etc.)


What claptrap!

If the goal was truly recycling then Epson could simply be willing 
to take back the old cartridges the way laser printer makers take 
back theirs.

If you are truly worried about consumers throwing out ink cartridges 
containing toxic substances then make THAT illegal.   Here in MA 
it's illegal to dispose of a CRT - contains lead - you have to take 
it to a hazardous waste collection center.

Your proposed legislation is typical of the socialists who make 
policy in the EU - trying to tell companies how to run their 
businesses and design their products.   That's why the Eurozone has 
a 12.5% unemployment rate!   It is no concern of the government 
whether Epson makes chipped cartridges.

> It is no concern of the government
> whether Epson makes chipped cartridges.

Hum.  Well, technically, if they ONLY made chipped cartridges, that would be
true...but when they make them AND the REAL purpose of making them is to
prohibit others from providing ink cartridges for their printers...it's
restraint of trade.  They could have made them, and simply not tried all
this patent/copyright scam BS that they are doing.

The automotive industry MUST allow aftermarket suppliers to be able to
provide replacement parts for vehicles...even fenders etc. which are clearly
a design item, as in, would easily fall in copyright jurisdiction.

What they CAN prohibit is other printer manufacturers using their
patents/copyrights...and this is clearly not the case with what chipped
cartridges are doing.  YOU own the printer, and YOU should be able to use
ANY damned ink in YOUR printer you want.  What they are doing, in my
opinion, should be illegal.

Austin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" 
<peter@s...> wrote:

> Your proposed legislation is typical of the socialists who make 
> policy in the EU - trying to tell companies how to run their 
> businesses and design their products.  

That guy who first thought of "Goverment of the people, for the 
people" must have been a real diehard communist!

 That's why the Eurozone has 
> a 12.5% unemployment rate!   

Unemployement is counted differently in the USA. Find out how it's 
being counted and you'll probably be amazed!

It is no concern of the government 
> whether Epson makes chipped cartridges.

Goverments are only elected by the people. Therefore, they are 
irrelevent, right ??? 
Cheers,
Andre

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Austin 
Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote:
but when they make them AND the REAL purpose of making them is to
> prohibit others from providing ink cartridges for their 
printers...it's
> restraint of trade.  They could have made them, and simply not 
tried all
> this patent/copyright scam BS that they are doing.

IFF that's the case then it's up to the federal government to 
enforce, not the NJ state government.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sceptre12345" 
<am1000@v...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter 
>  That's why the Eurozone has 
> > a 12.5% unemployment rate!   
> 
> Unemployement is counted differently in the USA. Find out how it's 
> being counted and you'll probably be amazed!

You are right - the Eurozone UNDERCOUNTS it.   If Germany and France 
if a student graduates from college and can't find a job and is 
given a stipend to live on and take a few more courses he's counted 
as a 'student', not as unemployed, even if he's not full-time.  In 
the US that person would be counted as unemployed and on welfare.

> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:12:09 +0200
> From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@...>
> Subject:
> 
> Keith writes:
> 
>> a)    Prohibit ...
>> b)    Prohibit ...
>> c)    The legislation ...
> 
> Thank goodness ... I was just worrying today about the lack of rules and
> regulations in the world, and hoping that a few more would be enacted to
> more precisely control our lives.

Is it just me, or is the irony of this post unbelievable??

Jon

> > From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@...>
> > Subject:
> >
> > Keith writes:
> >
> >> a)    Prohibit ...
> >> b)    Prohibit ...
> >> c)    The legislation ...
> >
> > Thank goodness ... I was just worrying today about the lack of rules and
> > regulations in the world, and hoping that a few more would be enacted to
> > more precisely control our lives.
>
> Is it just me, or is the irony of this post unbelievable??
>
> Jon

;-)