Digital BW, The Print

Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-solvent black - that
ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a CFS/CIS. I
tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni exclusively. You have to
order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you phone MIS.

Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.

Good luck,
BK

thanks for all the pointers folks.

I have sucked the nozzle with the fat syringe and gottten the black 
ink flow.

I have also tried epson carts with great success - printed the 4 col 
purge pattern properly. And also the regular test pattern.

But when I reconnect the quadtone inkset - back to same problem.

From what you've said it could be dry ink in the tubes ? But then why 
the flow when I pulled it through with a syringe ?

=====================================================================
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kelsall" 
<bktimes@h...> wrote:
> Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-solvent 
black - that
> ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a 
CFS/CIS. I
> tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni exclusively. 
You have to
> order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you phone 
MIS.

> 
> Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.
> 
> Good luck,
> BK

actually, maybe I'm wrong about the 'flow' i just tried again and i 
think the ink is only from the cart not through the lines - I'm 
pulling like crazy on the syringe and cant see any movement in the 
line
================================================================--- 
In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" 
<fh.gross@s...> wrote:
> thanks for all the pointers folks.
> 
> I have sucked the nozzle with the fat syringe and gottten the black 
> ink flow.
> 
> I have also tried epson carts with great success - printed the 4 
col 
> purge pattern properly. And also the regular test pattern.
> 
> But when I reconnect the quadtone inkset - back to same problem.
> 
> From what you've said it could be dry ink in the tubes ? But then 
why 
> the flow when I pulled it through with a syringe ?
> 
> 
=====================================================================
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Barry 
Kelsall" 

> <bktimes@h...> wrote:
> > Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-solvent 
> black - that
> > ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a 
> CFS/CIS. I
> > tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni exclusively. 
> You have to
> > order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you phone 
> MIS.
> > 
> > Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > BK

I never could clear my clogged line even after separating it from the
cart. I just got another from MIS. They'll just send you a single tube
and you tape it to the remaining other three. 

Maybe you could do a "roto rooter" job with a piece of fine wire

You should be able to pull enough ink through there to completely
change the ink by the cart and just recycle what you pulled out back
into the bottle. 

Bob Michaels

 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo"
<fh.gross@s...> wrote:

> 
> actually, maybe I'm wrong about the 'flow' i just tried again and i 
> think the ink is only from the cart not through the lines - I'm 
> pulling like crazy on the syringe and cant see any movement in the 
> line
> ================================================================--- 
> In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" 
> <fh.gross@s...> wrote:
> > thanks for all the pointers folks.
> > 
> > I have sucked the nozzle with the fat syringe and gottten the black 
> > ink flow.
> > 
> > I have also tried epson carts with great success - printed the 4 
> col 
> > purge pattern properly. And also the regular test pattern.
> > 
> > But when I reconnect the quadtone inkset - back to same problem.
> > 
> > From what you've said it could be dry ink in the tubes ? But then 
> why 
> > the flow when I pulled it through with a syringe ?
> > 
> > 
> =====================================================================
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Barry 
> Kelsall" 
> > <bktimes@h...> wrote:
> > > Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-solvent 
> > black - that
> > > ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a 
> > CFS/CIS. I
> > > tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni exclusively. 
> > You have to
> > > order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you phone 
> > MIS.
> > > 
> > > Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.
> > > 
> > > Good luck,
> > > BK

The "roto rooter" job will buy you about 2 weeks... good enough if 
you need to print right now, but get new tubes from MIS... even my 
new tubes only last ~3months.  Maybe I should try the eboni ink... 
any comparisons in output??

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels" 
<bob@b...> wrote:
> I never could clear my clogged line even after separating it from 
the
> cart. I just got another from MIS. They'll just send you a single 
tube
> and you tape it to the remaining other three. 
> 
> Maybe you could do a "roto rooter" job with a piece of fine wire
> 
> You should be able to pull enough ink through there to completely
> change the ink by the cart and just recycle what you pulled out back
> into the bottle. 
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo"
> <fh.gross@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > actually, maybe I'm wrong about the 'flow' i just tried again and 
i 
> > think the ink is only from the cart not through the lines - I'm 
> > pulling like crazy on the syringe and cant see any movement in 
the 
> > line
> > ================================================================--
- 
> > In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" 
> > <fh.gross@s...> wrote:
> > > thanks for all the pointers folks.
> > > 
> > > I have sucked the nozzle with the fat syringe and gottten the 
black 
> > > ink flow.
> > > 
> > > I have also tried epson carts with great success - printed the 
4 
> > col 
> > > purge pattern properly. And also the regular test pattern.
> > > 
> > > But when I reconnect the quadtone inkset - back to same problem.
> > > 
> > > From what you've said it could be dry ink in the tubes ? But 
then 
> > why 
> > > the flow when I pulled it through with a syringe ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
=====================================================================
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Barry 
> > Kelsall" 
> > > <bktimes@h...> wrote:
> > > > Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-
solvent 
> > > black - that
> > > > ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a 
> > > CFS/CIS. I
> > > > tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni 
exclusively. 
> > > You have to
> > > > order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you 
phone 

> > > MIS.
> > > > 
> > > > Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > BK

Pulling the ink through with a syringe means your tubes are not blocked, but
that does not mean your cart is functional. I'd get a new cart & a new tube
from MIS. Strip the old K tube from the CIS/CFS ribbon tubing - you can
attach the new tube to the old tube ribbon with cable ties (not too tight)
or cloth tape. I'd also use the bottom fill method for this new cart (less
chance of introducing foam in the cart).

This is also an opportunity to switch to the more reliable Eboni black.
-BK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "frankg_photo" <fh.gross@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:41 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 1160 black blocked


> thanks for all the pointers folks.
>
> I have sucked the nozzle with the fat syringe and gottten the black
> ink flow.
>
> I have also tried epson carts with great success - printed the 4 col
> purge pattern properly. And also the regular test pattern.
>
> But when I reconnect the quadtone inkset - back to same problem.
>
> From what you've said it could be dry ink in the tubes ? But then why
> the flow when I pulled it through with a syringe ?
>
> =====================================================================
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kelsall"
> <bktimes@h...> wrote:
> > Do you know which black you are using? If it is the co-solvent
> black - that
> > ink has a nasty habit of drying out, even inside tubing of a
> CFS/CIS. I
> > tossed my co-solvent black & am now using the Eboni exclusively.
> You have to
> > order it from the UltraTone inkset, or specify it when you phone
> MIS.
> >
> > Checking the 1160 with OEM Epson carts is good advice, too.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > BK
>
>
>
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