Digital BW, The Print

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Epson 4870. I had been wanting 
to get a scanner that would also permit me to scan medium format 
negs. The CoolScan 9000 seems to be way overpriced. A thousand 
dollars difference between it and the 500, just to scan larger negs. 
The 4870 looks like a reasonable compromise.
Bob

Hi Bob,

Since you mentioned the CoolScan 9000 I'm assuming you're interested 
in scanning medium format negatives and slides.  Having an interest 
in doing the same, I picked-up a 4870 about 2 weeks ago and am very 
pleased with the results.  I have a 35mm neg/slide scanner, so I'm 
using it almost exclusively for medium format, however, with a fair 
amount of Unsharp mask in Photoshop it does a satisfactory job with 
35mm slides as well.  DigitalICE is phenominal and has already saved 
me several hours of clean-up in Photoshop.  Overall, a great scanner 
at a great price!

In case you haven't seen it - here's a really good 4870 review:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson%204870/page_1.htm




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "iceman15613" 
<rwshearer@c...> wrote:
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the Epson 4870. I had been wanting 
> to get a scanner that would also permit me to scan medium format 
> negs. The CoolScan 9000 seems to be way overpriced. A thousand 
> dollars difference between it and the 500, just to scan larger 
negs. 
> The 4870 looks like a reasonable compromise.
> Bob

On Mar 20, 2004, at 9:40 AM, bbiess wrote:

> Since you mentioned the CoolScan 9000 I'm assuming you're interested
> in scanning medium format negatives and slides.  Having an interest
> in doing the same, I picked-up a 4870 about 2 weeks ago and am very
> pleased with the results.  I have a 35mm neg/slide scanner, so I'm
> using it almost exclusively for medium format, however, with a fair
> amount of Unsharp mask in Photoshop it does a satisfactory job with
> 35mm slides as well.  DigitalICE is phenominal and has already saved
> me several hours of clean-up in Photoshop.  Overall, a great scanner
> at a great price!

I haven't had the 4870 for long.
I can say that it is much improved from the 3200.
I scanned numerous 4x5 chromes this week. The real optical resolution 
is probably not much better than my 3200, but that ICE sure is nice :-)
The larger film scanner area will be a real timesaver i.e. two 4x5 at 
once instead of just one.
Sorry, no B&W negs yet. However, I will report on that soon.

John Toles
Dragonfly Imaging & Printing
Toronto, Canada
http://www.dragonflyprinting.com/
http://www.dragonflygallery.ca/

Bob, Here is a good link for the Epson 4870 scanner.  It is quite
extensive staring with opening the box all the way to making scans.  

 

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/index.html

 

My 4870 just arrived this week so I have not given it a complete shake
down as yet.  First impressions are very good though.  The 120 film
holders are still poorly designed but Doug Fisher has made what appears
to be a very good one for this scanner and 120 film.  I just ordered
them from him.  His email is filmholder@....  

 

Phil Radlick

-----Original Message-----
From: iceman15613 [mailto:rwshearer@...] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:12 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 4870

 

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Epson 4870. I had been wanting 
to get a scanner that would also permit me to scan medium format 
negs. The CoolScan 9000 seems to be way overpriced. A thousand 
dollars difference between it and the 500, just to scan larger negs. 
The 4870 looks like a reasonable compromise.
Bob





Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources
as they are often being updated.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint

If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this
same page.

Please follow these basic guidelines:
- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to
keep them short.
- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
membership without notice.
- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed
from the membership.
- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and
guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner
and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files
section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/

BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND
"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO
YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR
EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF
PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE
"OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN
ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE
OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii)
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA;
(iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE
PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW,
THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.







Yahoo! Groups Sponsor



ADVERTISEMENT
 
<http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12c9k6n1d/M=289246.4720081.5892317.2127754/D=eg
roupweb/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1079845398/A=2060596/R=0/SIG=11ion5580/*http
:/youcansave.directtrack.com/ad/5108/CD2992> click here


 
<http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=289246.4720081.5892317.2127754/D=egrou
pweb/S=:HM/A=2060596/rand=570992456> 

 

  _____  

Yahoo! Groups Links

*         To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
  

*         To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject
=Unsubscribe> 
  

*         Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>  Service. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Phil,
  thanks, that information on the 4870 was very helpful.
  Bob
    _____  

  Yahoo! Groups Links

  *         To visit your group on the web, go to:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
    

  *         To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
  DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
  <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject
  =Unsubscribe> 
    

  *         Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
  <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>  Service. 



  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



  Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated.

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint

  If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page.

  Please follow these basic guidelines:
  - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short.
  - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice.
  - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership.
  - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/

  BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.





------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  Yahoo! Groups Links

    a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
      
    b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      
    c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]