Digital BW, The Print

Is there a way to overcome this? I've looked at the MIS site, and tried the trick 
of wedging the CD bar down, but this only seems to lift SOME of the wheels (4 
out of 12: i.e. - the 4 immediately beneath the CD bar); unless there's 
something I'm missing.

How do you go about lifting ALL of the wheels out of the way? And what about 
the pizza wheels? I'm a little reluctant to start experimenting with disassebling 
my brand new printer: I'm willing to do it, just not without some idea of what I'm 
doing.

I'm printing images with a LOT of black, and as it stands, the printer is 
unusable for these types of images, and (un)fortunately, that's kinda my style. 
This is happening on both Ilford Smooth Pearl and Epson Semi-Gloss. I am 
absolutely LOVING the look of the ilford: incredible Dmax! But if I can't 
alleviate the track marks, it's all for not. I was becoming very encouraged, but 
if I can't remove these marks, I'll have to go back to my fume room.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Guy Staley

You need to prop up all of the rubber roller wheels per the 
instructions on the MIS site with cut off nylon ties.  I have 7 ties 
inserted above the 7 wheels from right to left and then 1 tie in the 
last wheel to the left on the  CD bar - this keeps that whole group 
elevated.  Also, raise the front pizza wheels by holding up the silver 
bar with the pizza wheels with your right thumb and index finger and 
then push down with your left little finger on the small white plastic 
wheel at the left end of the row of pizza wheels until the white wheel 
snaps down and locks up the silver bar with pizza wheels.

On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:18 PM, guy_staley wrote:

>
>
> Is there a way to overcome this? I've looked at the MIS site, and 
> tried the trick
> of wedging the CD bar down, but this only seems to lift SOME of the 
> wheels (4
> out of 12: i.e. - the 4 immediately beneath the CD bar); unless there's
> something I'm missing.
>
> How do you go about lifting ALL of the wheels out of the way? And what 
> about
> the pizza wheels? I'm a little reluctant to start experimenting with 
> disassebling
> my brand new printer: I'm willing to do it, just not without some idea 
> of what I'm
> doing.
>
> I'm printing images with a LOT of black, and as it stands, the printer 
> is
> unusable for these types of images, and (un)fortunately, that's kinda 
> my style.
> This is happening on both Ilford Smooth Pearl and Epson Semi-Gloss. I 
> am
> absolutely LOVING the look of the ilford: incredible Dmax! But if I 
> can't
> alleviate the track marks, it's all for not. I was becoming very 
> encouraged, but
> if I can't remove these marks, I'll have to go back to my fume room.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Guy Staley
>
>
>
>
>
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Got it!

Thanks Carl.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <
scho@m...> wrote:
> You need to prop up all of the rubber roller wheels per the 
> instructions on the MIS site with cut off nylon ties.  I have 7 ties 
> inserted above the 7 wheels from right to left and then 1 tie in the 
> last wheel to the left on the  CD bar - this keeps that whole group 
> elevated.  Also, raise the front pizza wheels by holding up the silver 
> bar with the pizza wheels with your right thumb and index finger and 
> then push down with your left little finger on the small white plastic 
> wheel at the left end of the row of pizza wheels until the white wheel 
> snaps down and locks up the silver bar with pizza wheels.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:18 PM, guy_staley wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Is there a way to overcome this? I've looked at the MIS site, and 
> > tried the trick
> > of wedging the CD bar down, but this only seems to lift SOME of the 
> > wheels (4
> > out of 12: i.e. - the 4 immediately beneath the CD bar); unless there's
> > something I'm missing.
> >
> > How do you go about lifting ALL of the wheels out of the way? And what 
> > about
> > the pizza wheels? I'm a little reluctant to start experimenting with 
> > disassebling
> > my brand new printer: I'm willing to do it, just not without some idea 
> > of what I'm
> > doing.
> >
> > I'm printing images with a LOT of black, and as it stands, the printer 
> > is
> > unusable for these types of images, and (un)fortunately, that's kinda 
> > my style.
> > This is happening on both Ilford Smooth Pearl and Epson Semi-Gloss. I 
> > am
> > absolutely LOVING the look of the ilford: incredible Dmax! But if I 
> > can't
> > alleviate the track marks, it's all for not. I was becoming very 
> > encouraged, but
> > if I can't remove these marks, I'll have to go back to my fume room.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Guy Staley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish 
> > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting 
> > this same page.
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> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to 
> > keep them short.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
> > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from 
> > the membership without notice.
> > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital 
> > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
> > removed from the membership.
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> > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group 
> > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the 
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DIGITAL BW, THE 
> > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE 
THAT THE "OWNER" 
> > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP 
SHALL NOT BE 
> > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT 
LIMITED TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR 
OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL 
BW, THE PRINT 
> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
DAMAGES), 
> > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE 
DIGITAL BW, 
> > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR 
ALTERATION OF 
> > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT 
OF ANY THIRD 
> > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY 
OTHER 

> > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@m...> wrote:
> Also, raise the front pizza wheels by holding up the silver 
> bar with the pizza wheels with your right thumb and index finger and 
> then push down with your left little finger on the small 
> white plastic wheel at the left end of the row of pizza wheels 
> until the white wheel snaps down and locks up the silver bar 
> with pizza wheels.

Carl, any idea how to reverse this once it's done? I snapped mine
down, and have had a paper feed problem printing a 10 inch image 
on 8.5x11 EEM. I'd like to restore it to see if it makes a 
difference. I can't figure out the trick.

Thanks,
David

The trick is to pop the little tab up in the hole immediately to the right of the 
white roller.

I, too, couldn't figure out what was holding the wheel down. As it turns out, it 
has nothing to do with the wheel: there is a number of tabs that poke through 
the holes along the length of the aluminum piece which hold the pizza wheels 
in place. If you look to the immediate right of the white roller, you'll notice that 
particular tab is pushed through the whole and out of place. It's a little hard to 
describe, but if you look, you'll probably see what I'm talking about.

In order to get the tab popped back up through the whole and latched as it 
should be, I had to use the thin metal tip of a mechanical pencil. You need to 
get behind the tab and pull it clear so that it can pop back up through the hole. I 
know I'm not explaining this very well, but...

At any rate, once you pop the tab back through the whole, you should be able 
to latch it again. I suggest that people NOT do this mod, as it actually torques 
the pizza wheel assembly a little bit, not to mention that it actually forces the 
last 2 or 3 wheels (closet to the white roller) down. So although it lifts the 
majority of the pizza wheels out of the way, it doesn't lift them all out of the way.

There's an easier way to accomplish the same thing which allows itself to be 
undone more easily: simply prop the aluminum bar up by putting something of 
the appropriate size under the edge of the bar next to the white roller. I used a 
small piece of rubber pencil eraser cut to an appropriate thickness. Works like 
a charm, and is easy to remove! Now I have pizza wheel free prints, and such 
a simple solution.

Cheers!
-Guy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David Wroblewski" <
dawroblewski@y...> wrote:

> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <scho@m...> wrote:
> > Also, raise the front pizza wheels by holding up the silver 
> > bar with the pizza wheels with your right thumb and index finger and 
> > then push down with your left little finger on the small 
> > white plastic wheel at the left end of the row of pizza wheels 
> > until the white wheel snaps down and locks up the silver bar 
> > with pizza wheels.
> 
> Carl, any idea how to reverse this once it's done? I snapped mine
> down, and have had a paper feed problem printing a 10 inch image 
> on 8.5x11 EEM. I'd like to restore it to see if it makes a 
> difference. I can't figure out the trick.
> 
> Thanks,
> David

Yes, I think I see. You don't mean the small square hole 
*immediately* to the right of the roller, you're talking about 
the tabs that occur alongside individual pizza wheels, correct?

In other words, some of the pizza-wheel cut-outs in the metal 
strip are regular plus-sign shapes. Others have a little extra 
metal punched out in the bottom right side, and those are the
one's with the tabs. 

-david


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guy_staley"
<guy_staley@y...> wrote:
> 
> The trick is to pop the little tab up in the hole immediately to the
right of the 
> white roller.
> 
> I, too, couldn't figure out what was holding the wheel down. As it
turns out, it 
> has nothing to do with the wheel: there is a number of tabs that
poke through 
> the holes along the length of the aluminum piece which hold the
pizza wheels 
> in place. If you look to the immediate right of the white roller,
you'll notice that 
> particular tab is pushed through the whole and out of place.

Thanks, Guy.  Worked like a charm.

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guy_staley" 
<guy_staley@y...> wrote:
> 
> The trick is to pop the little tab up in the hole immediately to 
the right of the 
> white roller.
> 
> I, too, couldn't figure out what was holding the wheel down. As it 
turns out, it 
> has nothing to do with the wheel: there is a number of tabs that 
poke through 
> the holes along the length of the aluminum piece which hold the 
pizza wheels 
> in place. If you look to the immediate right of the white roller, 
you'll notice that 
> particular tab is pushed through the whole and out of place. It's a 
little hard to 
> describe, but if you look, you'll probably see what I'm talking 
about.
> 
> In order to get the tab popped back up through the whole and 
latched as it 
> should be, I had to use the thin metal tip of a mechanical pencil. 
You need to 
> get behind the tab and pull it clear so that it can pop back up 
through the hole. I 
> know I'm not explaining this very well, but...
> 
> At any rate, once you pop the tab back through the whole, you 
should be able 
> to latch it again. I suggest that people NOT do this mod, as it 
actually torques 
> the pizza wheel assembly a little bit, not to mention that it 
actually forces the 
> last 2 or 3 wheels (closet to the white roller) down. So although 
it lifts the 
> majority of the pizza wheels out of the way, it doesn't lift them 
all out of the way.
> 
> There's an easier way to accomplish the same thing which allows 
itself to be 
> undone more easily: simply prop the aluminum bar up by putting 
something of 
> the appropriate size under the edge of the bar next to the white 
roller. I used a 
> small piece of rubber pencil eraser cut to an appropriate 
thickness. Works like 
> a charm, and is easy to remove! Now I have pizza wheel free prints, 
and such 
> a simple solution.
> 
> Cheers!
> -Guy
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David 
Wroblewski" <
> dawroblewski@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl 
Schofield
> > <scho@m...> wrote:
> > > Also, raise the front pizza wheels by holding up the silver 
> > > bar with the pizza wheels with your right thumb and index 
finger and 

> > > then push down with your left little finger on the small 
> > > white plastic wheel at the left end of the row of pizza wheels 
> > > until the white wheel snaps down and locks up the silver bar 
> > > with pizza wheels.
> > 
> > Carl, any idea how to reverse this once it's done? I snapped mine
> > down, and have had a paper feed problem printing a 10 inch image 
> > on 8.5x11 EEM. I'd like to restore it to see if it makes a 
> > difference. I can't figure out the trick.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > David

Actually, I DO mean the small square hole "immediately" to the right of the 
roller. But I also mean the tabs that occur alongside individual pizza wheels: 
those are the tabs to which I refer. However, the small square one next to the 
roller is the one thats holding the roller down. Pop that tab back through and 
latch it up and your back to where you started. Then simply prop up the metal 
strip by that same amount by placing something of the appropriate height under 
the metal strip immediately to the left of the roller. Voila!

-G

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David Wroblewski" <
dawroblewski@y...> wrote:

> 
> Yes, I think I see. You don't mean the small square hole 
> *immediately* to the right of the roller, you're talking about 
> the tabs that occur alongside individual pizza wheels, correct?
> 
> In other words, some of the pizza-wheel cut-outs in the metal 
> strip are regular plus-sign shapes. Others have a little extra 
> metal punched out in the bottom right side, and those are the
> one's with the tabs. 
> 
> -david
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guy_staley"
> <guy_staley@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > The trick is to pop the little tab up in the hole immediately to the
> right of the 
> > white roller.
> > 
> > I, too, couldn't figure out what was holding the wheel down. As it
> turns out, it 
> > has nothing to do with the wheel: there is a number of tabs that
> poke through 
> > the holes along the length of the aluminum piece which hold the
> pizza wheels 
> > in place. If you look to the immediate right of the white roller,
> you'll notice that 
> > particular tab is pushed through the whole and out of place.

Got it--after some jockeying of the metal strip and the wheel
assembly beneat. I had to get both the square-hole tab
and the rightmost pizza wheel tab popped through at the
same time before it worked.

Thanks for the advice.
-david

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guy_staley"
<guy_staley@y...> wrote:

> 
> Actually, I DO mean the small square hole "immediately" to the 
> right of the roller. But I also mean the tabs that occur 
> alongside individual pizza wheels: > those are the tabs to 
> which I refer.