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Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Peter Gorwin

I'm having a problem customizing a sepia Panoramic print on my 2200.
I'm attempting to print a flattened file, that is 363 Megs,  46x7 @ 360 
ppi, 16 bit.
My computer is a Mac G5, 1.5 GB DDR SDRAm, 1.8 GHz processor operating
System 10.3.9. It's Photo Rag 308.  (The roll was too big for
the roll feeder, so I cut off a 13 by 50 piece.)

Under File/Page Setup, I customized a paper size of  13 x 50, specified 
Format
for Stylus Photo 2200 (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,1) for USB.
No matter what I do, the 2200 will not print the page horizontally but 
instead seems to want to print
a miniature vertical version of the file.

Yes, I have re-designated the paper size to 50 x 13, established 1 inch 
margins all the way
around, changed the orientation to properly reflect a correct preview 
in "Print with Preview."
I have also attempted to print with a different combination using the 
roll feeder driver
(Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,5)).  Each time the image appears correctly in 
Print Preview,
but instead prints vertically in miniature.

Though color management shouldn't make a difference, I have designated 
printing with
a profile and color management off.  I have printed from the color 
space, RGB 1998, to color manage
with the sliders all in a neutral position.

No acrobatics that I do seems to correct this problem.  I have even 
dumped the drivers and reinstalled them.

Where is this bug coming from? Anyone know what's gone wrong?

Peter

Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Walt Mucha

Doesen't the epson driver have a 44 inch limit?

Regards, Walt


>I'm having a problem customizing a sepia Panoramic print on
my 2200.
>I'm attempting to print a flattened file, that is 363 Megs, 
46x7 @ 360 
>ppi, 16 bit.
>My computer is a Mac G5, 1.5 GB DDR SDRAm, 1.8 GHz processor
operating
>System 10.3.9. It's Photo Rag 308.  (The roll was too big for
>the roll feeder, so I cut off a 13 by 50 piece.)
>
>Under File/Page Setup, I customized a paper size of  13 x 50,
specified 
>Format
>for Stylus Photo 2200 (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,1) for USB.
>No matter what I do, the 2200 will not print the page
horizontally but 
>instead seems to want to print
>a miniature vertical version of the file.
>
>Yes, I have re-designated the paper size to 50 x 13,
established 1 inch 
>margins all the way
>around, changed the orientation to properly reflect a correct
preview 
>in "Print with Preview."
>I have also attempted to print with a different combination
using the 
>roll feeder driver
>(Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,5)).  Each time the image appears
correctly in 
>Print Preview,
>but instead prints vertically in miniature.
>
>Though color management shouldn't make a difference, I have
designated 
>printing with
>a profile and color management off.  I have printed from the
color 
>space, RGB 1998, to color manage
>with the sliders all in a neutral position.
>
>No acrobatics that I do seems to correct this problem.  I
have even 
>dumped the drivers and reinstalled them.

>
>Where is this bug coming from? Anyone know what's gone wrong?
>
>Peter
>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by John Moody

I'm on WinXP, but FWIW I have overcome a similar problem by setting the
printer default to Landscape, at the printer configuration level.

John
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 Subject: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

Each time the image appears correctly in
Print Preview,
but instead prints vertically in miniature.




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Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Peter Gorwin

John, Walt, and Mark:

John, I can't find the equivalent of "printer configuration level" on 
my mac setup.
There is a preset pan size for commercial panoramic paper, but I want 
to print larger than
that.  I don't think that's what you're talking about though.

Regarding your other suggestions, Walt, I first created a new custom 
setting or 44x13
(I brought the file size up to 400 ppi without resampling, so it 
remained at 363 megs).
I saved.
the cute little vertical miniature still printed.

Next, Mark, I went down to 8 bits. I saved, set page set-up, went to 
preview where everything
again previewed properly.  It didn't work even though the file was half 
the size.  (the G5 shouldn't be
gaging on a 180 meg file, so file size can't be the problem.)

Thanks for your suggestions, but I still need to go back to the drawing 
board. I'll really hate it if this
is a Mac OS 10/Epson conflict of some kind.  I don't want to install 
all of my 2200 drivers in Classic and have
to attempt to print the files out of there.  I just installed CS2, but 
I was running into similar problems out
of CS, so I don't think this is a Photoshop Problem.

Regards,  Peter
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On Jun 6, 2005, at 12:10 PM, John Moody wrote:

> I'm on WinXP, but FWIW I have overcome a similar problem by setting the
> printer default to Landscape, at the printer configuration level.
>
> John
>

Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Mark Savoia

Try this. I have seen some weird things happen with layers or alpha  
channels. Make sure there are none.

On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Peter Gorwin wrote:

> John, Walt, and Mark:
>



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RE: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by John Moody

Peter,
I mean the default page setup for the printer; typically it is setup for
letter size, portrait.  Set it to 13 x 50, landscape.

John
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Gorwin
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:51 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

John, Walt, and Mark:

John, I can't find the equivalent of "printer configuration level" on
my mac setup.



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Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Peter Gorwin

Thanks John,

Been there, done that. Still no luck.

Regards, Peter
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On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:08 PM, John Moody wrote:

> Peter,
> I mean the default page setup for the printer; typically it is setup 
> for
> letter size, portrait.  Set it to 13 x 50, landscape.
>

Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Peter Gorwin

Thanks Again Mark.  I did have alpha channels . . . looked promising.
Got rid of those, saved the image, did page set up, printed with 
preview.
No luck.  Very frustrating.  Peter
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On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Mark Savoia wrote:

> Try this. I have seen some weird things happen with layers or alpha
> channels. Make sure there are none.
>
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Peter Gorwin wrote:
>
>> John, Walt, and Mark:
>>
>

Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by guy washburn

Peter,

The Epson Driver Limit is 44" on the 2200.

Guy

--- Peter Gorwin <pshelleyg@...> wrote:

> I'm having a problem customizing a sepia Panoramic
> print on my 2200.
> I'm attempting to print a flattened file, that is
> 363 Megs,  46x7 @ 360 
> ppi, 16 bit.
> My computer is a Mac G5, 1.5 GB DDR SDRAm, 1.8 GHz
> processor operating
> System 10.3.9. It's Photo Rag 308.  (The roll was
> too big for
> the roll feeder, so I cut off a 13 by 50 piece.)
> 
> Under File/Page Setup, I customized a paper size of 
> 13 x 50, specified 
> Format
> for Stylus Photo 2200 (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,1)
> for USB.
> No matter what I do, the 2200 will not print the
> page horizontally but 
> instead seems to want to print
> a miniature vertical version of the file.
> 
> Yes, I have re-designated the paper size to 50 x 13,
> established 1 inch 
> margins all the way
> around, changed the orientation to properly reflect
> a correct preview 
> in "Print with Preview."
> I have also attempted to print with a different
> combination using the 
> roll feeder driver
> (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,5)).  Each time the image
> appears correctly in 
> Print Preview,
> but instead prints vertically in miniature.
> 
> Though color management shouldn't make a difference,
> I have designated 
> printing with
> a profile and color management off.  I have printed
> from the color 
> space, RGB 1998, to color manage
> with the sliders all in a neutral position.
> 
> No acrobatics that I do seems to correct this
> problem.  I have even 
> dumped the drivers and reinstalled them.
> 
> Where is this bug coming from? Anyone know what's
> gone wrong?
> 
> Peter
> 
> 


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Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Peter Gorwin

Dear Guy, Walt, John, Mark,

Epson and you guys helped solve the problem.

Yes, Guy and Walt . . . exceeding 44" was indeed the problem.
But also, after getting off of the phone with Epson support,
it is also required that the setting for 13" be entered with
a figure of 12.94" for those of you on the precipice of falling
into a similar pitfall.

so the custom setting would read 12.94 x 44.

16 bit was not a problem with the G5, top OS 10 before Tiger,
and CS2.

This means that without a RIP, the 2200 is capable of printing
a rather short panorama, if you ask me.  (A fact that I am rather late
in realizing.) Will the 2400 require a separate RIP in order to print a 
larger,
longer file?  How about the 4800?  I think that's something we should 
know
before we buy one unless Epson gives us a discount on a 3rd party RIP.
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On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:43 PM, guy washburn wrote:

> Peter,
>
> The Epson Driver Limit is 44" on the 2200.
>
> Guy
>
> --- Peter Gorwin <pshelleyg@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm having a problem customizing a sepia Panoramic
>> print on my 2200.
>> I'm attempting to print a flattened file, that is
>> 363 Megs,  46x7 @ 360
>> ppi, 16 bit.
>> My computer is a Mac G5, 1.5 GB DDR SDRAm, 1.8 GHz
>> processor operating
>> System 10.3.9. It's Photo Rag 308.  (The roll was
>> too big for
>> the roll feeder, so I cut off a 13 by 50 piece.)
>>
>> Under File/Page Setup, I customized a paper size of
>> 13 x 50, specified
>> Format
>> for Stylus Photo 2200 (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,1)
>> for USB.
>> No matter what I do, the 2200 will not print the
>> page horizontally but
>> instead seems to want to print
>> a miniature vertical version of the file.
>>
>> Yes, I have re-designated the paper size to 50 x 13,
>> established 1 inch
>> margins all the way
>> around, changed the orientation to properly reflect
>> a correct preview
>> in "Print with Preview."
>> I have also attempted to print with a different
>> combination using the
>> roll feeder driver
>> (Driver Epson SP 2200 (2,5)).  Each time the image
>> appears correctly in
>> Print Preview,
>> but instead prints vertically in miniature.
>>
>> Though color management shouldn't make a difference,
>> I have designated
>> printing with
>> a profile and color management off.  I have printed
>> from the color
>> space, RGB 1998, to color manage
>> with the sliders all in a neutral position.
>>
>> No acrobatics that I do seems to correct this
>> problem.  I have even
>> dumped the drivers and reinstalled them.
>>
>> Where is this bug coming from? Anyone know what's
>> gone wrong?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-06 by Paul A. Yesnosky

> Yes, Guy and Walt . . . exceeding 44" was indeed the problem.
> But also, after getting off of the phone with Epson support, 
> it is also required that the setting for 13" be entered with 
> a figure of 12.94" for those of you on the precipice of 
> falling into a similar pitfall.
> 
> so the custom setting would read 12.94 x 44.

Peter,

I don't print panos or roll paper but I have read on the Qimage Yahoo group
that somehow Qimage allows you to get past the 44 inch limit.

You might want to post your question on the Yahoo group Qimage and see if
someone there can help you.

Paul

RE: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-07 by John Moody

Qimage is Windows only.  Here is how it works
http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/qimagehlp/lbe.htm#6a
You may be able to achieve the same thing in PS by using roll banner mode,
and stacking images <44" long side-by-side with no margins.  Never tried it;
I have Qimage.

Best regards,
John Moody
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:48 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200


Peter,

I don't print panos or roll paper but I have read on the Qimage Yahoo group
that somehow Qimage allows you to get past the 44 inch limit.

You might want to post your question on the Yahoo group Qimage and see if
someone there can help you.

Paul




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Re: [Digital BW] Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-07 by John Houghton

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Gorwin 
<pshelleyg@c...> wrote:> This means that without a RIP, the 2200 is 
capable of printing
> a rather short panorama, if you ask me.  (A fact that I am rather late
> in realizing.) Will the 2400 require a separate RIP in order to print 
a 
> larger,
> longer file? 

Using Photoshop CS2 (but not previous versions) I can print longer than 
44" on a 2100 connected to a Windows XP system.  The driver permits 
custom sizes up to 129" to be entered and I have successfully printed 
up to 66" myself.  I have no reason to suppose prints up to the limit 
of 129" should not be possible, but as I have no requirement for that, 
I haven't done a test.

John

Re: Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-19 by damionlloyd35

Hi Peter:

I just joined this forum and I don't know if you've fixed the problem yet, but I had a similar 
issue when trying to set up roll paper printing. I Have a Mac setup very similar to yours, and 
it's not a Mac thing at all. I had to call Epson and pay the 10 bucks, but miraculously it 
worked, so I'm happy to share this info. Try setting your custom paper size not to 13" but 
12.94" (this is directly from the tech guy). I know this worked for me, and granted I was only 
printing 30" prints, but the bizarre problem you described did go away. I haven't tested the 
maximum length myself, so unfortunately you may be limited to 44". Good luck.

-Damion Lloyd

Re: Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-19 by damionlloyd35

D'oh!

Would have helped if I'd read ALL the posts! Sorry to all for my unnecessary post... 

-Damion

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Custom Pan Problem, 2200

2005-06-20 by Peter Gorwin

Hello Damion:

Yes, thanks to members on the group like you and Epson (I also had to 
pay my 10 bucks)
the problem has been solved.  However, thanks to a seasoned member of 
the group I
now realize that the workaround is to to tile in Illustrator if one 
wishes to go beyond the 44" mark.  But the problem
was indeed that I had set 13" instead of 12.94."   Your help, along 
with everyone else's, has been much appreciated.
Don't worry if it was redundant . . . your heart was in the right 
placed ;~)

Regards, Peter
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On Jun 19, 2005, at 11:42 AM, damionlloyd35 wrote:

> Hi Peter:
>
> I just joined this forum and I don't know if you've fixed the problem 
> yet, but I had a similar
> issue when trying to set up roll paper printing. I Have a Mac setup 
> very similar to yours, and
> it's not a Mac thing at all. I had to call Epson and pay the 10 bucks, 
> but miraculously it
> worked, so I'm happy to share this info. Try setting your custom paper 
> size not to 13" but
> 12.94" (this is directly from the tech guy). I know this worked for 
> me, and granted I was only
> printing 30" prints, but the bizarre problem you described did go 
> away. I haven't tested the
> maximum length myself, so unfortunately you may be limited to 44". 
> Good luck.
>
> -Damion Lloyd
>

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