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2005-12-23 by Clayton Jones
Hello All, What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-12-23 by garethjolly
Someone just recommended Photozoom Pro http://www.benvista.com/main/content/content.php?page=ourproducts§ion=photozoompro_1 Haven't tried it myself A few people also recommend Qimage http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ (which I haven't tried properly) Regards Gareth --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" <cj@c...> wrote:
> > Hello All, > > What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an > image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. > > Regards, > Clayton > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm >
2005-12-23 by Mark Savoia
It's called Photoshop ;) Mark On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:55 AM, Clayton Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an > image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. > > Regards, > Clayton > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-12-23 by STEVE DEER
or geniune fractals? steve --- Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > It's called Photoshop ;) > Mark > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:55 AM, Clayton Jones wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > What was the name of the program that does the > best job of resizing an > > image file? And where can it be found? Many > thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Clayton > > > > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > digest, or you > > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by > > visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of > earlier messages > > to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2005-12-23 by Mark Savoia
Photoshop CS and CS2 seemed to have "borrowed" genuine fractals engine, I have tried both ways (step resing in Photoshop) and results look the same. JMO, Mark On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:20 AM, STEVE DEER wrote: > or geniune fractals? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-12-23 by Peter Marshall
I've just been trying SizeFixer, which seems pretty good: http://www.fixerlabs.com/New_Website/pages/apps.htm Regards, Peter Marshall petermarshall@... _________________________________________________________________ My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ and elsewhere...... garethjolly wrote:
>Someone just recommended Photozoom Pro > >http://www.benvista.com/main/content/content.php?page=ourproducts§ion=photozoompro_1 > >Haven't tried it myself > >A few people also recommend Qimage > >http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ > >(which I haven't tried properly) > >Regards >Gareth > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" ><cj@c...> wrote: > > >>Hello All, >> >>What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an >>image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. >> >>Regards, >>Clayton >> >> >>Info on black and white digital printing at >>http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm >> >> >> > > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2005-12-23 by scott_now_coming
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" <cj@c...> wrote: > > Hello All, > > What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an > image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. > > Regards, > Clayton > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm > QImage? http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ It's the best, imo. Scott
2005-12-23 by Tom Husband
I think so too but it converts your grayscale to RGB. Tom QImage? http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ It's the best, imo. Scott
2005-12-23 by Clayton Jones
> What was the name of the program that does the best job of resizing an > image file? And where can it be found? Many thanks. Thanks for all the replies. There was a thread here a few weeks ago discussing some product that uses the latest S-Spline algorithm (or something like that). It's not PS, QImage or GF - was it one of the others mentioned or something else...? Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-12-23 by Igor Wesdorp
Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use (like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done internally when sending a file to the printer? And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals? Thanks, Igor
2005-12-23 by Diane Fields
Igor, you can 'save to file' with no problem with Qimage. Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: Igor Wesdorp
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: What was the program?
Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use
(like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done internally
when sending a file to the printer?
And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals?
Thanks,
Igor
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-12-23 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Mark Savoia > > Photoshop CS and CS2 seemed to have "borrowed" genuine fractals > engine, I have tried both ways (step resing in Photoshop) and results > look the same. PS doesn't do anything like GF. Try upsizing in GF by a factor of ten, and you'll see that it does artificial edge recognition. Or, look at http://www.pbase.com/pderocco/image/36593399 and the following image, to see the difference. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2005-12-23 by scott_now_coming
You can re-size with the interpolation of your choice and save the file for printing. The big advantage is, being able to re-size a file with Vector or Pyramid interpolation and then being ablen to print that file on any printer, with the advantage your chosen interpolation. I know someone who re-sizes in QI using Pyramid interpolation, then has the file printed on photographic paper from an Agfa (I think) machine. I like to be able to have the advantage of QI, but knowing I can take a file to another system that doesn't have QI. (Like someone using a Mac system, for example). Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Igor Wesdorp" <iwesdorp@c...> wrote:
> > Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use > (like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done internally > when sending a file to the printer? > > And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals? > > Thanks, > > Igor >
2005-12-23 by scott_now_coming
"Or, look at http://www.pbase.com/pderocco/image/36593399 and the following image, to see the difference." Nice. Now go add Pyramid and Vector. :>) (That GF version looked terrible. I'm glad I never went that route, fwiw) Scott
2005-12-23 by El Estudio
Hi, If what you want is to resize and print later on, you could try Photozoom Pro. It works on both Mac and PC and VERY nicely. It takes 8 and 16 bit files (they can get pretty large as well) with no problem. They have a demo version to download at: http://www.benvista.com/main/content/content.php?page=downloads regards, Pablo --- scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@...> wrote: > "Or, look at > http://www.pbase.com/pderocco/image/36593399 and the > following image, > to see > the difference." > > Nice. Now go add Pyramid and Vector. :>) > > (That GF version looked terrible. I'm glad I never > went that route, > fwiw) > > > Scott > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
2005-12-23 by Igor Wesdorp
Yes, but I want to resize it, then re-edit it in Photoshop. So the program should be able to save the resized image in a normal format like Tiff or so, or directly sent it to Photoshop. Can these programs (QI, Photozoom) do that? (Like Genuine Fractals can) Igor
2005-12-23 by Peter Palmieri
Think about this workflow--edit in PS (do not resize or sharpen)>save as a TIFF or JPEG>open subject image in Qimage>Sharpen>print to desired size. Or open non-raw image in Qimage>use Photo Editor setup to move image to PS>image opens in PS>Edit (do not resize or sharpen)>"save as" image>click ok in Qimage dialog box>sharpen>print to size desired. If you are making large prints then by all means sharpen and resize in Qimage. Prints up to about 8.5X11 will not show much of a difference in either one. But, the printing, editing, resizing is much quicker in Qimage unless you are cloning, changing colors, pinning donkey's heads on politicians etc. then PS is the one to use. Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Wesdorp To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] What was the program? Yes, but I want to resize it, then re-edit it in Photoshop. So the program should be able to save the resized image in a normal format like Tiff or so, or directly sent it to Photoshop. Can these programs (QI, Photozoom) do that? (Like Genuine Fractals can) Igor Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-12-23 by Elwood Spedden
extensis pixel smartscale
Woody
--- scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"Clayton Jones"
<cj@c...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> What was the name of the program that does the best
job of resizing an
> image file? And where can it be found? Many
thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Clayton
>
>
> Info on black and white digital printing at
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>
QImage?
http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/
It's the best, imo.
Scott
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---------------------------------2005-12-23 by El Estudio
Well, about QI I can't tell but as to Photozoom Pro, yes, you can resize, save a tif or whatever format you choose, and then re-edit in photoshop although I would highly recommend you resize and print as a last step and do your editing first. But still, if you want to edit afterwards... you certainly can, in a much larger file -that is-. Regards, Pablo --- Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...> wrote: > Yes, but I want to resize it, then re-edit it in > Photoshop. So the > program should be able to save the resized image in > a normal format > like Tiff or so, or directly sent it to Photoshop. > Can these programs (QI, Photozoom) do that? (Like > Genuine Fractals can) > > Igor > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
2005-12-23 by Elwood Spedden
Clayton
I believe it was Steve Kale who provided the
information on the various S Spline products.
Woody
--- Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it
for later use
(like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only
done internally
when sending a file to the printer?
And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine
Fractals?
Thanks,
Igor
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---------------------------------2005-12-23 by scott_now_coming
QImage will let you save as Tiff or Jpeg. Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Igor Wesdorp" <iwesdorp@c...> wrote: > > Yes, but I want to resize it, then re-edit it in Photoshop. So the > program should be able to save the resized image in a normal format > like Tiff or so, or directly sent it to Photoshop. > Can these programs (QI, Photozoom) do that? (Like Genuine Fractals can)
> > Igor >
2005-12-23 by Steve Kale
Clayton The program I mentioned a short while ago was Photozoom Pro (formerly S-Spline Pro) from Benvista. There was a long discussion of interpolation methods some time ago and S-Spline technology is the latest "maths". I am traveliing at the moment and don't have access to the original thread postings which I saved on my computer. If you are interested I can chase these up when I return to London. I have purchased Photozoom. It's not cheap at Euro129. I have not used it extensively so far but it has worked extremely well when I have used it. I have a few stability issues with the Mac Photoshop export plugin (CS2) but no issues with the standalone application. I am working though these issues with the folks at Benvista who have been extremely helpful. Incidentally I did ask them the following question and their response is copied below: >is there any merit in stepping a spline interpolation in increments rather than in one hit? " We recommend doing it in one hit. Technically, using multiple increments -also called "stair" interpolation- is mathematically the same as doing it in one step and taking a slightly larger area into account around each pixel when interpolating. Theoretically this could result in small improvements (although not necessarily, and can also result in more ringing/jaggies), however it also introduces rounding errors because you always get small "mistakes" when interpolating, and by interpolating many times these mistakes will naturally occur more often and stack up. Actually, we thought about adding stair interpolation to PhotoZoom a while ago, but after some experimenting we didn't consider it a real improvement (there was practically no visual difference) and the much longer processing time definitely wasn't worth it. "
2005-12-23 by El Estudio
Igor, PhotoZoom Pro will give you a choice of several formats to save your file. TIF, JPEG, PNG, WINDOWS BITMAP and TRUEVISION TARGA. It will also give a large array of resizing choices, like LANCZOS (which I understand is what QI uses), BICUBIC,BILINEAR, NEAREST NEIGHBOUR and of course, S-SPLINE. I hope this is useful to you. Regards, Pablo --- Peter Palmieri <pcpalmieri@...> wrote: > Think about this workflow--edit in PS (do not resize > or sharpen)>save as a TIFF or JPEG>open subject > image in Qimage>Sharpen>print to desired size. Or > open non-raw image in Qimage>use Photo Editor setup > to move image to PS>image opens in PS>Edit (do not > resize or sharpen)>"save as" image>click ok in > Qimage dialog box>sharpen>print to size desired. > > If you are making large prints then by all means > sharpen and resize in Qimage. Prints up to about > 8.5X11 will not show much of a difference in either > one. But, the printing, editing, resizing is much > quicker in Qimage unless you are cloning, changing > colors, pinning donkey's heads on politicians etc. > then PS is the one to use. > > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Igor Wesdorp > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] What was the program? > > > Yes, but I want to resize it, then re-edit it in > Photoshop. So the > program should be able to save the resized image > in a normal format > like Tiff or so, or directly sent it to Photoshop. > Can these programs (QI, Photozoom) do that? (Like > Genuine Fractals can) > > Igor > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > Files, and other resources as they are often being > updated. > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your > Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of > earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No > personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or > argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group > topic of digital B&W printing. Users who > persistently make off-topic posts may be removed > from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by > the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the > actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" > in the Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY > UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP > SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, > INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR > LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP > HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE > INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING > TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
2005-12-24 by Peter Marshall
QImage can - and the help tells you how. And yes, I think it usually if not always does a better job than GF. The problem with any proprietary software such as that behind GF is that it may not get developed. Expectations - and competing products - have moved on since it came out. However, my simple preliminary tests have shown that SizeFixer is better still, certainly where you are looking at extreme upsizing. http://www.fixerlabs.com/New_Website/pages/reviews_quotes.htm has some links to reviews of this and related products. The problems I have with it: it runs on Windows XP and I'm still mainly working on W2000; it is very slow (20 minutes for the last image I did - resized from 600 to 5164 pixels wide!); it doesn't incorporate batching. perhaps expensive for the amount of use I have for this kind of software. But it does do the impossible better than anything I've yet tried. Glowing reviews as you will find if you look at the link above, from MacWorld, BJP etc Regards, Peter Marshall petermarshall@... _________________________________________________________________ My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ and elsewhere...... Igor Wesdorp wrote:
>Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use >(like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done internally >when sending a file to the printer? > >And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals? > >Thanks, > >Igor > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2005-12-24 by scott_now_coming
Do you happen to know what interpolation SizeFixer uses? I could find it on their website. Thanks, Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Marshall <petermarshall@c...> wrote: > > QImage can - and the help tells you how. And yes, I think it usually if > not always does a better job than GF. > > The problem with any proprietary software such as that behind GF is that > it may not get developed. Expectations - and competing products - have > moved on since it came out. > > However, my simple preliminary tests have shown that SizeFixer is better > still, certainly where you are looking at extreme upsizing. > http://www.fixerlabs.com/New_Website/pages/reviews_quotes.htm has some > links to reviews of this and related products. The problems I have with it: > it runs on Windows XP and I'm still mainly working on W2000; > it is very slow (20 minutes for the last image I did - resized from 600 > to 5164 pixels wide!); > it doesn't incorporate batching. > perhaps expensive for the amount of use I have for this kind of software. > > But it does do the impossible better than anything I've yet tried. > Glowing reviews as you will find if you look at the link above, from > MacWorld, BJP etc > > Regards, > > Peter Marshall > petermarshall@c... > _________________________________________________________________ > My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ > London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ > The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ > and elsewhere...... > > > > Igor Wesdorp wrote: > > >Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use > >(like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done internally > >when sending a file to the printer? > > > >And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > > >Please follow these basic guidelines: > >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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2005-12-26 by Peter Marshall
I think it is a proprietary adaptive method, rather than any of the well-known algorithms. It says "novel techniques...the first time this technology has appeared in a commercial product." Regards, Peter Peter Marshall petermarshall@... _________________________________________________________________ My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ and elsewhere...... scott_now_coming wrote:
>Do you happen to know what interpolation SizeFixer uses? > >I could find it on their website. > >Thanks, >Scott > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Marshall ><petermarshall@c...> wrote: > > >>QImage can - and the help tells you how. And yes, I think it >> >> >usually if > > >>not always does a better job than GF. >> >>The problem with any proprietary software such as that behind GF is >> >> >that > > >>it may not get developed. Expectations - and competing products - >> >> >have > > >>moved on since it came out. >> >>However, my simple preliminary tests have shown that SizeFixer is >> >> >better > > >>still, certainly where you are looking at extreme upsizing. >>http://www.fixerlabs.com/New_Website/pages/reviews_quotes.htm has >> >> >some > > >>links to reviews of this and related products. The problems I have >> >> >with it: > > >>it runs on Windows XP and I'm still mainly working on W2000; >>it is very slow (20 minutes for the last image I did - resized from >> >> >600 > > >>to 5164 pixels wide!); >>it doesn't incorporate batching. >>perhaps expensive for the amount of use I have for this kind of >> >> >software. > > >>But it does do the impossible better than anything I've yet tried. >>Glowing reviews as you will find if you look at the link above, >> >> >from > > >>MacWorld, BJP etc >> >>Regards, >> >>Peter Marshall >>petermarshall@c... >>_________________________________________________________________ >>My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ >>London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ >>The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ >>and elsewhere...... >> >> >> >>Igor Wesdorp wrote: >> >> >> >>>Can Qimage also just resize an image and then save it for later use >>>(like with Genuine Fractals). Or is the resizing only done >>> >>> >internally > > >>>when sending a file to the printer? >>> >>>And if it can, does it do a better job then Genuine Fractals? >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Igor >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >>> >>> >resources as they are often being updated. > > >>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >>> >>>If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you >>> >>> >wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by >visiting this same page. > > >>>Please follow these basic guidelines: >>>- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages >>> >>> >to keep them short. > > >>>- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or >>> >>> >flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed >from the membership without notice. > > >>>- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of >>> >>> >digital B&W printing. 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2005-12-26 by Greg
Anybody use any of the other pluggins in the fixer bundle?