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B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

2006-02-26 by simaga75

Hi,

I was used to make B&W prints with silver traditional laboratory.

Now I would like to switch to numeric B&W prints with a printer like
Epson 1280/1290. 

Could you please advise me about the differents available inks
(pigment, carbon) in a qualitative and financial matter ?
Let me know your personal experience and your view about the 1280/1290
prints in comparison with silver traditional prints.

Please give me your advises about the real visible differences between
the prints carried out with a 1280/1290 and a 2400 epson printers for
intance ? 

Thanks for your reply,
Serge

Re: B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

2006-02-26 by how786

Hi,
 I had tried HARD making B&W prints with MIS inks on my 1280. The
heads were constantly clogging up on me even when I just did Black
Only (BO) printing. I did get a few good prints but it was not worth
the effort.
 At the advice of some of the more knowledgeable folks here, I have
dedicated a 2400 to B&W prints and an Epson 220 to BO prints with MIS
inks. (No more clogging)
 In short, I'd not recommend the 1280/90 for B&W if you want to use
any inks other than Epson.
 Best
 Howard


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "simaga75"
<sgno@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi,
> 
> I was used to make B&W prints with silver traditional laboratory.
> 
> Now I would like to switch to numeric B&W prints with a printer like
> Epson 1280/1290. 
> 
> Could you please advise me about the differents available inks
> (pigment, carbon) in a qualitative and financial matter ?
> Let me know your personal experience and your view about the 1280/1290
> prints in comparison with silver traditional prints.
> 
> Please give me your advises about the real visible differences between
> the prints carried out with a 1280/1290 and a 2400 epson printers for
> intance ? 
> 
> Thanks for your reply,
> Serge
>

RE: [Digital BW] Re: B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

2006-02-26 by George Payne

I have read and heard the same issues with clogging.  I own a 1270, so maybe
they are more reliable than the 1280's.  I have not had the same experience
with the clogs.  I love my 1270 with the MIS UT2 inks.   Maybe I am just
lucky.  But from my perspective where I am a starving artist, I prefer to
save the cash as long as I have a workable solution.

Just one person's opinion...

Thanks,


George
www.cajunimages.com
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Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

Hi,
 I had tried HARD making B&W prints with MIS inks on my 1280. The
heads were constantly clogging up on me even when I just did Black
Only (BO) printing. I did get a few good prints but it was not worth
the effort.
 At the advice of some of the more knowledgeable folks here, I have
dedicated a 2400 to B&W prints and an Epson 220 to BO prints with MIS
inks. (No more clogging)
 In short, I'd not recommend the 1280/90 for B&W if you want to use
any inks other than Epson.
 Best
 Howard


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "simaga75"
<sgno@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I was used to make B&W prints with silver traditional laboratory.
> 
> Now I would like to switch to numeric B&W prints with a printer like
> Epson 1280/1290. 
> 
> Could you please advise me about the differents available inks
> (pigment, carbon) in a qualitative and financial matter ?
> Let me know your personal experience and your view about the 1280/1290
> prints in comparison with silver traditional prints.
> 
> Please give me your advises about the real visible differences between
> the prints carried out with a 1280/1290 and a 2400 epson printers for
> intance ? 
> 
> Thanks for your reply,
> Serge
>






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Re: [Digital BW] Re: B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

2006-02-26 by Jim Coffee

Good afternoon...

My experience with the 1280 is the opposite.  I have used/use MIS UT2 and b/o and am very satisfied with the 1280.  MIS CIS.

-Jim Coffee-
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: how786 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:13 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?


  Hi,
  I had tried HARD making B&W prints with MIS inks on my 1280. The
  heads were constantly clogging up on me even when I just did Black
  Only (BO) printing. I did get a few good prints but it was not worth
  the effort.
  At the advice of some of the more knowledgeable folks here, I have
  dedicated a 2400 to B&W prints and an Epson 220 to BO prints with MIS
  inks. (No more clogging)
  In short, I'd not recommend the 1280/90 for B&W if you want to use
  any inks other than Epson.
  Best
  Howard


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "simaga75"
  <sgno@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi,
  > 
  > I was used to make B&W prints with silver traditional laboratory.
  > 
  > Now I would like to switch to numeric B&W prints with a printer like
  > Epson 1280/1290. 
  > 
  > Could you please advise me about the differents available inks
  > (pigment, carbon) in a qualitative and financial matter ?
  > Let me know your personal experience and your view about the 1280/1290
  > prints in comparison with silver traditional prints.
  > 
  > Please give me your advises about the real visible differences between
  > the prints carried out with a 1280/1290 and a 2400 epson printers for
  > intance ? 
  > 
  > Thanks for your reply,
  > Serge
  >






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SV: [Digital BW] B&W prints with epson 1280/1290 ?

2006-02-26 by Finn Krogvig

Hi there Serge
I am printing B&W with a 1290 and for me it works OK. Not perfect at all
times, and I feel that my system needs a bit of attention to keep it
working without too much trouble. But the prints is really nice!
 
The good thing about 1290 is that you can get them cheap second hand. I
have bought two for the price of a little more than half a new R2400.
Still, If I had the money I would go for the Epson R2400 - according to
what people tell on this list. Its a simple, almost no hassle road to
fine art B&W printing as I understand it.
 
I am not using the MIS inks, but I had not heard of any experience with
them when I started out printing B&W. I bought iQuads from InkjetMall /
Cone. The inks are PiezoTones "Selenium" with the Portfolio Black that
have som dye in it to get better blacks. How these inks compare to MIS
FS inks with Eboni I dont know, but I am sure someone on this list can
tell. I went for PiezoTone because of the supposed lightfastness. I
guess MIS FS inks are about the same. 
 
 I do get clogs from time to time, but they are easy to remove most of
the time. Sometimes I get a good nozzle check, but when printing there
still may be some microbanding/lighter print lines. After a headcleaning
they have disappeared so far. I bought a continous ink flow system, but
I think I would go for refillable carts now.
 
I have heard that the newer model 1290S might clog more easy than the
older 1280/90 - I really dont know.
 
I havent seen prints from r2400 and 1290 side by side, but I have seen
r1800 and 1290 color prints side by side. I could see some differences,
the r1800 was a bit sharper IF you really looked close... for B&W I dont
know. I find my 1290 b&W prints to be very nice.
 
My Inkjet prints are different from darkroom wet prints. The blacks are
not as black, but good enough for me. The paper is different - I use
matte papers and I like the look and feel of it. 
 
Good luck!
 

regards
FinnK




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Hi,

I was used to make B&W prints with silver traditional laboratory.

Now I would like to switch to numeric B&W prints with a printer like
Epson 1280/1290. 

Could you please advise me about the differents available inks
(pigment, carbon) in a qualitative and financial matter ?
Let me know your personal experience and your view about the 1280/1290
prints in comparison with silver traditional prints.

Please give me your advises about the real visible differences between
the prints carried out with a 1280/1290 and a 2400 epson printers for
intance ? 

Thanks for your reply,
Serge









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