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> itself feeds just perfectly.)
> 
>  Thanks
>  Ginny
>

>
> Ginny,
> 
> I have a 4000 (not a 2400) and find Museo II feeds fine from the back 
> slot.  I use a custom paper width setting of 0.7mm in the Epson 
> driver.  Also, Museo II doesn't perform very well using the EEM 
> setting on my 4000.  The Textured Fina Art setting lays down less ink 
> than the EEM setting and gives me much better Dmax and color gamut.
> 
> Hopefully, this is relevant to your 2400.
> 
> Lou
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ginnylady33" 
> <ginnylady33@> wrote:
> >
> > I just tried Museo II, 250 gsm. for the first time in my relatively
> > new 2400. For the most part, the paper will not feed from the rear 
> feeder.
> > (About 1 out of 6 times the paper will feed into the printer)
> > 
> > I'm wondering what settings those of you who have tried Museo II in 
> a
> > 2400 use? 
> > What paper do you set the media type for in the driver? 
> > Should I be using the 'thick' setting for 250 GSM. paper? 
> > Should I be using the front single-sheet feeder?
> >  
> >  Basically, I'm not sure if there is a problem with my printer, the
> > settings or the paper itself. By the way, for media type I was 
> trying
> > Enhanced Matte and then Heavyweight Matte. (BTW, Enhanced Matte 
> paper
> > itself feeds just perfectly.)
> > 
> >  Thanks
> >  Ginny
> >
>

>
> Thanks Lou.
>  I don't believe there is a setting in the 2400 driver for a custom
> paper width.
>  Anyone?
>  The only choice I'm aware for width is to choose the 'thick paper'
> setting. Hehe...then one get's a warning with every print that one has
> chosen 'thick psper', do you want to continue?
> Duh......
>  Best
>  Ginny
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Louis Dina"
> <lbdina@> wrote:
> >
> > Ginny,
> > 
> > I have a 4000 (not a 2400) and find Museo II feeds fine from the back 
> > slot.  I use a custom paper width setting of 0.7mm in the Epson 
> > driver.  Also, Museo II doesn't perform very well using the EEM 
> > setting on my 4000.  The Textured Fina Art setting lays down less ink 
> > than the EEM setting and gives me much better Dmax and color gamut.
> > 
> > Hopefully, this is relevant to your 2400.
> > 
> > Lou
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ginnylady33" 
> > <ginnylady33@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just tried Museo II, 250 gsm. for the first time in my relatively
> > > new 2400. For the most part, the paper will not feed from the rear 
> > feeder.
> > > (About 1 out of 6 times the paper will feed into the printer)
> > > 
> > > I'm wondering what settings those of you who have tried Museo II in 
> > a
> > > 2400 use? 
> > > What paper do you set the media type for in the driver? 
> > > Should I be using the 'thick' setting for 250 GSM. paper? 
> > > Should I be using the front single-sheet feeder?
> > >  
> > >  Basically, I'm not sure if there is a problem with my printer, the
> > > settings or the paper itself. By the way, for media type I was 
> > trying
> > > Enhanced Matte and then Heavyweight Matte. (BTW, Enhanced Matte 
> > paper
> > > itself feeds just perfectly.)
> > > 
> > >  Thanks
> > >  Ginny
> > >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Clayton
Jones
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:20 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Museo 2, 2400 basic settings question

Howard,

>I'm following this thread with great interest. I, too, have
>'feed issues' with my 2400. It does appear to be very finicky
>with thicker papers.
>I recently tried H. Photo Rag 308. It was really hard to get this
>paper to feed correctly. I ultimately had to use the single sheet
>front feeder. And, even that, was not consistently effective.
> It is discouraging to have paid so much for a printer that has
>feed issues with thicker papers.

Please try the procedure I described.  Yes it's finicky, but using
this procedure I have essentially no problems and can feed it anything.

Regards,
Clayton





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-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Clayton
Jones
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:56 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Museo 2, 2400 basic settings question

Hello John,

>I would be concerned about increased microbanding, and general
>abuse to the feed mechanism with that procedure.  Is manual
>feeding such a pain, that those concerns are outweighed, or do
>you not see any microbanding difference in the output?

I have not seen any banding of any sort.  I'm not sure how you can
attach the word "abuse" to the procedure I described.  If you read
carefully what I wrote you'll see that I'm not saying to shove the
paper down it's throat.  My observation is that thin papers are bent
slightly by the initial mechanism which moves the paper forward into
the jaws of the grabber.  The thick papers don't have that flexibility
and simply don't get moved forward enough to where the grabber can get
ahold of it.

I found that putting a slight bend in the paper puts it in a position
that is similar to a thinner paper in it's bent state.  In papers up
to 250 and 270 gsm that is usually all that's required.  Anything
heavier needs a slight nudge just to get it moving.  Most of the time
all that's required is the weight of a finger on the paper, without
any push at all.  All it needs is to move slightly forward and the
grabber then pulls it in.

Only with the real thick papers is a slight nudge required.  They
don't seem to be able to slip past the angled edge of the smooth white
piece of plastic which lowers to allow the paper to pass.  The nudge
is just enough to get it past that point.

I also think that it's more difficult to abuse these new paper
feeders as they seem to have a built in protection mechanism.  The
2200 is prone to failure here, and I noticed something very different
with the 2400 (and my R200).  It rejects any sheet that doesn't feed
properly and passes it out the front.  I think this is a protection
mechanism, and it's probably more difficult to cause damage.

This is obvious because if you push the paper too hard, or too far in,
it will be rejected and passed through.  It won't allow you to force
it in.  The only thing that works is to get the paper in the correct
position and then the grabber will pull it in.  With a bit of
experience one can get a feel for just the right amount of pressure.

Putting a small amount of space (1/16") between the paper and the
fence is also very helpful.  If you watch closely you can see that the
grabber twists the paper slightly, like a very brief twitch.  A tight
fence seems to prevent this twist and the grabber rejects it and
passes it through.


Regards,
Clayton


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>
>  I'm following this thread with great interest. I, too, have 'feed
> issues' with my 2400. It does appear to be very finicky with  thicker
> papers. 
>  I recently tried H. Photo Rag 308. It was really hard to get this
> paper to feed correctly. I ultimately had to use the single sheet
> front feeder. And, even that, was not consistently effective.
>  It is discouraging to have paid so much for a printer that has feed
> issues with thicker papers.
>  Howard
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ginnylady33"
> <ginnylady33@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Lou.
> >  I don't believe there is a setting in the 2400 driver for a custom
> > paper width.
> >  Anyone?
> >  The only choice I'm aware for width is to choose the 'thick paper'
> > setting. Hehe...then one get's a warning with every print that one has
> > chosen 'thick psper', do you want to continue?
> > Duh......
> >  Best
> >  Ginny
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Louis Dina"
> > <lbdina@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ginny,
> > > 
> > > I have a 4000 (not a 2400) and find Museo II feeds fine from the back 
> > > slot.  I use a custom paper width setting of 0.7mm in the Epson 
> > > driver.  Also, Museo II doesn't perform very well using the EEM 
> > > setting on my 4000.  The Textured Fina Art setting lays down less ink 
> > > than the EEM setting and gives me much better Dmax and color gamut.
> > > 
> > > Hopefully, this is relevant to your 2400.
> > > 
> > > Lou
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ginnylady33" 
> > > <ginnylady33@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just tried Museo II, 250 gsm. for the first time in my relatively
> > > > new 2400. For the most part, the paper will not feed from the rear 
> > > feeder.
> > > > (About 1 out of 6 times the paper will feed into the printer)
> > > > 
> > > > I'm wondering what settings those of you who have tried Museo II in 
> > > a
> > > > 2400 use? 
> > > > What paper do you set the media type for in the driver? 
> > > > Should I be using the 'thick' setting for 250 GSM. paper? 
> > > > Should I be using the front single-sheet feeder?
> > > >  
> > > >  Basically, I'm not sure if there is a problem with my printer, the
> > > > settings or the paper itself. By the way, for media type I was 
> > > trying
> > > > Enhanced Matte and then Heavyweight Matte. (BTW, Enhanced Matte 
> > > paper
> > > > itself feeds just perfectly.)
> > > > 
> > > >  Thanks
> > > >  Ginny
> > > >
> > >
> >
>