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2006-12-18 by Mark Savoia
Anyone have any tips on how to remove a chip from a Epson 9600 or 10000 cart? I tried on a few old ones and destroyed them. They seem to be extremely glued in. I need to switch them to another cart. Mark
2006-12-18 by Steven Karafyllakis
I'd be interested in this too, I just came close to destroying one of my 7600 carts. finally gave up and ordered a couple empties from MIS Steve Karafyllakis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
> > Anyone have any tips on how to remove a chip from a Epson 9600 or > 10000 cart? I tried on a few old ones and destroyed them. They seem > to be extremely glued in. I need to switch them to another cart. > Mark >
2006-12-18 by Mark Savoia
No one has 10000 carts or I would just do that. Has anyone successfully switched bags inside the carts? Mark
On Dec 18, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote: > I'd be interested in this too, I just came close to destroying one of > my 7600 carts. finally gave up and ordered a couple empties from MIS > > Steve Karafyllakis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > <mark@...> wrote: >> >> Anyone have any tips on how to remove a chip from a Epson 9600 or >> 10000 cart? I tried on a few old ones and destroyed them. They seem >> to be extremely glued in. I need to switch them to another cart. >> Mark >> > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2006-12-18 by Ernst Dinkla
Mark Savoia wrote: > No one has 10000 carts or I would just do that. Has anyone > successfully switched bags inside the carts? > Mark > > On Dec 18, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote: > >> I'd be interested in this too, I just came close to destroying one of >> my 7600 carts. finally gave up and ordered a couple empties from MIS >> >> Steve Karafyllakis I have about 4 or 5 10000CF empties from Mediastreet. You have to write them whether you need CF version, dye or the 10600 ones. But I prefer converted Epson ones, they are more solid than the copies. BTW, if you want to refill original Epson ones you must take out a backflow valve, I have once written the instruction on one of the lists. So if you want to convert from dye to pigment carts + refilling there's not just the chip that has to be replaced. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-18 by john dean
> BTW, if you want to refill original Epson ones you must take > out a backflow valve, I have once written the instruction on > one of the lists. So if you want to convert from dye to > pigment carts + refilling there's not just the chip that has > to be replaced. > > > Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the info Ernst gave me last year. I still haven't done it but will be doing it if Cone doesn't get me my NK6 carts by Jan 3rd: This time I go shareware style as normal business seems not to work. So you all get the full details and I wouldn't mind to receive empty 10000CF carts in return from all over the world. I will tell the postman it may get busy soon. I use the MIS resetter on empty 10000CF carts with the Epson chips. So I have to reset them when refilled. At 450 ml content per cart used I do not see that as a problem. Back to the valves. You cut the 10000 bag off that grey valve part ? Take your best glasses, and look for the hole at the inside (bag side) of that grey valve part. On the 9600 carts it is a simple hole, no obstruction. On the 10000 carts there's a small milky white plate at two points welded with a small hole in the middle. Beneath that plate is a very small PET disc of maybe 2-3 mm wide and 0.1 mm thick. If you remove both then ink can flow in without problems like with the 9600 carts. That's easy when the cart is taken apart, the pressure membrane is cut to pieces and the bag is removed with the knife. To assemble that again in good order without leaking is something you better avoid. So you need to remove that valve from the outside. There's a polyethylene cap over the valve part at the outside that has to be removed first. I have used 3 paperclips to make a kind of round Neptunes fork with three hooks at the inside that slip over the cap and hook at three sides behind the cap. There are 3 plastic hooks inside the cap that hold it and by using the custom gear you should be able to get the cap off. Work on a clean table as there will be other parts getting out of the spring valve construction inside. Remove the rest of the valve parts. First you could try this out on 9600 carts to get the skill (if you have more of them). Next step:Take a very small screwdriver with a blade that's less than 2 by 1 mm and a shaft of 1.5 mm diameter and effective length of 1.5"- 37 mm. Stick it gently into the hole where the valve spring was, you will feel a bridge construction within that supports the spring inside. That bridge construction is a star form with 3 legs or just one bar across, 3 or 2 holes in between along the side of the cylinder you are in (it's about a year ago I have done this). So steer the screwdriver into one hole and it will find the obstruction of the extra backflow valve + plate of the 10000 cart. Push the shaft completely inside so the weld at one side will break, find the other hole(s) to break the other weld. The small disc and plate will fall into the inkbag but will not block the inkflow in and out anymore. Too thick a screwdriver and you will break the support of the valve spring and you lost a cart, too little force and the small valve will still function or the flow will be limited both ways. Reassemble the cart again in the right order. It can be filled and reset. I do hope you emptied it before you started the operation. I could write how you can exchange the ink in a good and cheap way, I could write how you can change between gloss and matte black in the same way. That has to wait till the postman rings (twice?). Ernst
2006-12-18 by Ernst Dinkla
Ernst Dinkla wrote: > I have about 4 or 5 10000CF empties from Mediastreet. You have > to write them whether you need CF version, dye or the 10600 > ones. But I prefer converted Epson ones, they are more solid > than the copies. > > BTW, if you want to refill original Epson ones you must take > out a backflow valve, I have once written the instruction on > one of the lists. So if you want to convert from dye to > pigment carts + refilling there's not just the chip that has > to be replaced. > > > Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst Don't know why it went 3x, the mailer must have a hick up. John's message with my instruction starts with an explanation where that valve is but if you got no cart extra it isn't wise to take a cart apart as there is no way to rebuild it. You can't cut the pressure membrane either to replace bags as it will be difficult to get an airtight pressure membrane again. I have plenty of adhesive vinyls and PET foils here but there's a difference between hot sealing like the original has and adhesive seals, the last are not that strong. Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-18 by john dean
And that was the problem with the initial Media Street carts according to a guy who tried them back then, the glue was't strong enought to hold the pressure. Ernst if they haven't straighted out these cart for sure by Jan 3rd when I get back I'm going to have to go your route with the Epson cart refill. I'm tired of waiting. john will be difficult to get an airtight pressure membrane again.
> I have plenty of adhesive vinyls and PET foils here but > there's a difference between hot sealing like the original has > and adhesive seals, the last are not that strong. > > > Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst > > > | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | > | www.pigment-print.com | > | ( unvollendet ) | >
2006-12-18 by Greg
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > > And that was the problem with the initial Media Street carts according > to a guy who tried them back then, the glue was't strong enought to > hold the pressure. > > Ernst if they haven't straighted out these cart for sure by Jan 3rd > when I get back I'm going to have to go your route with the Epson cart > refill. I'm tired of waiting. > > > > john > I have several 10600 empties if anyone is interested. It's one full set plus almost another full set if my memory is correct.
2006-12-19 by Ernst Dinkla
Ernst Dinkla wrote: > I have about 4 or 5 10000CF empties from Mediastreet. You have > to write them whether you need CF version, dye or the 10600 > ones. But I prefer converted Epson ones, they are more solid > than the copies. Well it is even worse. I had some Mediastreet ones filled as a backup but never used them for the reason above. This morning I had no other LM cart left that was filled so inserted the Mediastreet one, and error message appeared that no LM cart was inserted. I reset the chip and it still gives that answer. Checked what a Cyan one would do and it wasn't good either. So avoid the Mediastreet 10000 carts not only for possible leaks on pressure or ink bag but also for not working with the chip. Wonder whether I can get my money back, P&P price to Europe was already far too high in my opinion. Have to thank John and Warren for the Epson empties they send me in the past. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-19 by Mark Savoia
I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they can in a 9600? Mark
On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:56 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: > Ernst Dinkla wrote: > >> I have about 4 or 5 10000CF empties from Mediastreet. You have >> to write them whether you need CF version, dye or the 10600 >> ones. But I prefer converted Epson ones, they are more solid >> than the copies. > > Well it is even worse. I had some Mediastreet ones filled as a > backup but never used them for the reason above. > This morning I had no other LM cart left that was filled so > inserted the Mediastreet one, and error message appeared that > no LM cart was inserted. I reset the chip and it still gives > that answer. Checked what a Cyan one would do and it wasn't > good either. > > So avoid the Mediastreet 10000 carts not only for possible > leaks on pressure or ink bag but also for not working with the > chip. Wonder whether I can get my money back, P&P price to > Europe was already far too high in my opinion. > > Have to thank John and Warren for the Epson empties they send > me in the past. > > Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst > > > | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | > | www.pigment-print.com | > | ( unvollendet ) | > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2006-12-19 by Ernst Dinkla
Mark Savoia wrote: > I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they > can in a 9600? > Mark I guess they can be turned off in the firmware but by that you loose any information on the content used. Anyway if Mediastreet asks me to specify the 10000 model I use and the carts I get have 10000CF labels on them, I expect they work on the 10000CF. Whether with a chip that says always full or one that can be reset. They do not. BTW, I do not know what you actually want to change on the carts but there's an instruction somewhere in the wide format list messages how to change the 10000 from dye to pigment and the opposite. Service mode thing. Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-19 by Ernst Dinkla
Mark Savoia wrote: > I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they > can in a 9600? > Mark I guess they can be turned off in the firmware but by that you loose any information on the content used. Anyway if Mediastreet asks me to specify the 10000 model I use and the carts I get have 10000CF labels on them, I expect they work on the 10000CF. Whether with a chip that says always full or one that can be reset. They do not. BTW, I do not know what you actually want to change on the carts but there's an instruction somewhere in the wide format list messages how to change the 10000 from dye to pigment and the opposite. Service mode thing. Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-19 by Mark Savoia
How? I don't care about ink left in cart, I will just keep checking by weight. Mark On Dec 19, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: > I guess they can be turned off in the firmware but by that you > loose any information on the content used. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-12-19 by john dean
Ernst, I would definitely ask for all of your money back from Media Street. Not only that they need to be aware of the situation. You ordered the latest versions? You might want to check the serial numbers with him to make sure. They did have some on their website before the latest incarnation. They are selling their G Chromes in them now. So if he tells you anything I would also like to know. What I can't figure out in all this mess that Media Street is having and now Cone ( possibly from Media Street also) is that Lyson has been successfully selling their Cave Paints in 3rd party carts for years and I have never heard of a problem. They just might sell us emptys also if we say they are for some special cleaning fluid or something. I know the guy to email about this at Media Stree. His name is Michael Levy. He is a good guy and has done the best on his end to make this work. He told me that the problem they had with the first batch was chip recognition and placement at the factory, whereever that is. This was the last email he sent me about six months ago: ----- Hi John, Better late then never. Our testing has been completed and these new cartridges worked successfully. We will probably have these in stock within a month or so. I assume you will only be looking for one set? Please advise. Michael Sincerely, The MediaStreet Support Staff You may respond to this message to update your question. Track the issue status and respond at: http://mycusthelp.com/MEDIASTREET/supportissuetrack.asp?RefNo=W018136-050406&sEMail=deanwork2003@yahoo.com
2006-12-19 by Ernst Dinkla
Mark Savoia wrote: > I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they > can in a 9600? > Mark Page 55 give three modes: NPC = 0 neutral NPC = 1 dye NPC = 2 pigment I don't think neutral means a quad set :-) more likely no chip detection. Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
2006-12-19 by Mark Savoia
I will look into that. Thanks. Mark
On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: > Mark Savoia wrote: >> I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they >> can in a 9600? >> Mark > > Page 55 give three modes: > > NPC = 0 neutral > NPC = 1 dye > NPC = 2 pigment > > I don't think neutral means a quad set :-) more likely no > chip detection. > > > > Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst > > > | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | > | www.pigment-print.com | > | ( unvollendet ) | > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2006-12-19 by Mark Savoia
Ernst, Just tried your suggestion. NPC = 0 I think is for the first time initialization because it is looking for the startup cyan cart that determines if it will be a pigment or dye machine. Nice suggestion although. I would think they have somewhere to disable completely for trouble shooting. Mark
On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: > Mark Savoia wrote: >> I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like they >> can in a 9600? >> Mark > > Page 55 give three modes: > > NPC = 0 neutral > NPC = 1 dye > NPC = 2 pigment > > I don't think neutral means a quad set :-) more likely no > chip detection. > > > > Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst > > > | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | > | www.pigment-print.com | > | ( unvollendet ) | > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2006-12-19 by Mark Savoia
Looks like I am getting a bit closer to a chip switch, anyone know if a flush is required between archival pigment inkset and ultrachrome inkset? On the Epson 10000 do I understand it correctly that it "drains" on power off? Mark
On Dec 19, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Mark Savoia wrote: > Ernst, > Just tried your suggestion. > > NPC = 0 > I think is for the first time initialization because it is looking > for the startup cyan cart that determines if it will be a pigment or > dye machine. Nice suggestion although. > > I would think they have somewhere to disable completely for trouble > shooting. > Mark > > On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: > >> Mark Savoia wrote: >>> I had a strange thought, can the cart sensors be turned off like >>> they >>> can in a 9600? >>> Mark >> >> Page 55 give three modes: >> >> NPC = 0 neutral >> NPC = 1 dye >> NPC = 2 pigment >> >> I don't think neutral means a quad set :-) more likely no >> chip detection. >> >> >> >> Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst >> >> >> | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | >> | www.pigment-print.com | >> | ( unvollendet ) | >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >> resources as they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you >> wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by >> visiting this same page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages >> to keep them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or >> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed >> from the membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital >> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be >> removed from the membership. >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules >> and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the >> group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” >> in the Files section: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ >> >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE >> “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL >> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, >> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, >> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER >> INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL >> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF >> SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE >> THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO >> OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR >> CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO >> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >> PRINT YAHOO GROUP. >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2006-12-20 by Ernst Dinkla
Mark Savoia wrote: > Ernst, > Just tried your suggestion. > > NPC = 0 > I think is for the first time initialization because it is looking > for the startup cyan cart that determines if it will be a pigment or > dye machine. Nice suggestion although. > > I would think they have somewhere to disable completely for trouble > shooting. > Mark Mark, There's something more on this subject in the Field Service guide at page 40 but no real answer on your request. Funny those warnings in the SM and FS that no customer should ever get the knowledge that you can switch between dye and pigment. Shows how committed they are to the customer of what once was a 13K machine. What you could try with the NPC settings is some undocumented number 4-9 if the printer display allows that. Some developers setting they forgot to take out. There are also other settings for Japanese etc carts mentioned at other pages in the SM manual. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |