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2007-05-27 by alistair_owens
Forgive me if this seems to be a basic question but I am just starting out in the area of BW ditigal printing. I have downloaded the QTR software to try out but the results I am getting seem somewhat dark. Smooth though. Is it possible that I am double profiling or something? I am printing direct from QTR and I do not have Photoshop. Thanks and regards Alistair
2007-05-27 by Richard Smallfield
At 04:14 PM Sunday 5/27/2007, you wrote: >I have downloaded the QTR software to try out but the results I am >getting seem somewhat dark. Smooth though. Is it possible that I am >double profiling or something? I am printing direct from QTR and I do >not have Photoshop. What image editor are you using? I hope it has colour management built in so you can convert the image to the right profile. If so, what profile are you using? For a start, you can print via QTR-Grey-Matte.icc for matte papers. That's what I use and it works well for me. But I edit in QTR-Grey-Lab. (Sorry but I refuse to use US spelling!:) ) Good luck with it - I think you'll be very pleased with QTR once you get it working right. Richard -- http://smallfield.vze.com http://photos.smallfield.vze.com (Photos web site) http://warkworth.vze.com/ (Warkworth photo essay) http://picasaweb.google.com/rsmallfield/ (Recent work) "You can best serve civilization by being against what usually passes for it." --Wendell Berry
2007-05-27 by alistair_owens
Hi Richard, thanks for the response. > What image editor are you using? I hope it has colour management built in so you can convert the image to the right profile. I am just using the Canon RAW converter. It has a basic but workable BW conversion with it. Not sure what you mean by converting the image to the right profile. It allows conversion to either TIFF or JPEG and allows adobe or RGB colorspace. The only place I can see to select profiles is in QTR. > If so, what profile are you using? For a start, you can print via QTR-Grey-Matte.icc for matte papers. In QTR I select UC-EEnhmatte-warm (assume UC is for epson K2 inks and enhanced matt is the paper) as there does not seem to be a neutral option. Hope this makes sense. Alistair
2007-05-27 by Richard Smallfield
At 04:54 PM Sunday 5/27/2007, you wrote: >> What image editor are you using? I hope it has colour management >built in so you can convert the image to the right profile. > >I am just using the Canon RAW converter. It has a basic but workable >BW conversion with it. Not sure what you mean by converting the image >to the right profile. It allows conversion to either TIFF or JPEG and >allows adobe or RGB colorspace. The only place I can see to select >profiles is in QTR. You will need an image editor. The cheapest one I know of that is colour managed is Picture Window Pro but, being a Photoshop user, I'm rather ignorant of other programs. http://www.dl-c.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=28 Your monitor must also be calibrated so that the screen tones are accurate. Is it calibrated? >In QTR I select UC-EEnhmatte-warm (assume UC is for epson K2 inks and >enhanced matt is the paper) as there does not seem to be a neutral >option. You choose two curves and choose a mix between the two that fits your needs - from cool to warm. Feel free to email me off-list if you want help - I'm not the most tech savvy person here, but seem capable of getting good results with QTR, so that's a start. Good luck, Richard -- http://smallfield.vze.com http://photos.smallfield.vze.com (Photos web site) http://warkworth.vze.com/ (Warkworth photo essay) http://picasaweb.google.com/rsmallfield/ (Recent work) "It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea." --Robert Anton Wilson
2007-05-27 by Mike Johnston
Hi, Has anyone gotten good results yet with CS3? I was using Paul's profiles and instructions with CS. When I upgraded to CS3 it is obvious that something is very different - all the profiles result in very light prints. TIA Mike Johnston
2007-05-27 by Eric Neilsen
Mike, While I have been having some issues with the WHOLE CS3 Design package, printing quality is NOT among them. In fact, I find the new interface of CS3 to be very nice. I am working with XP Home SP2 and using a 4800 to output. First eliminate the possible clogged nozzle, then look into what setting have a new or different default if any. I have printed to the 4800 using CS3, Lightroom and Qimage with a variety profiles and setting; ABW, color, and Digital Negs without a problem due to color management. I did check into the reported issue of CS3 not saving a print set up within a session. I was able to reproduce that problem but only if I printed through another app while CS3 was still open. i.e. Output through Q Image with a print set up in CS3 and not sent to the printer yet. Otherwise, CS3 remembered the "set up to print" just fine. Are these new lighter prints from both new files and legacy files? Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 7:46 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] C88+ and PS CS3 Hi, Has anyone gotten good results yet with CS3? I was using Paul's profiles and instructions with CS. When I upgraded to CS3 it is obvious that something is very different - all the profiles result in very light prints. TIA Mike Johnston [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-27 by Mike Johnston
Hi Eric, Thanks for responding. If I select a profile to print, the preview gets very light. If I just print the photo with no profile, the preview and the print match and are fine. I assume I need to change something in Paul's processes with CS3. Thanks Mike J.
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Eric Neilsen Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:17 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] C88+ and PS CS3 Mike, While I have been having some issues with the WHOLE CS3 Design package, printing quality is NOT among them. In fact, I find the new interface of CS3 to be very nice. I am working with XP Home SP2 and using a 4800 to output. First eliminate the possible clogged nozzle, then look into what setting have a new or different default if any. I have printed to the 4800 using CS3, Lightroom and Qimage with a variety profiles and setting; ABW, color, and Digital Negs without a problem due to color management. I did check into the reported issue of CS3 not saving a print set up within a session. I was able to reproduce that problem but only if I printed through another app while CS3 was still open. i.e. Output through Q Image with a print set up in CS3 and not sent to the printer yet. Otherwise, CS3 remembered the "set up to print" just fine. Are these new lighter prints from both new files and legacy files? Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____
2007-05-27 by Mike Johnston
I found the problem - OFU. I was not setting the rendering intent correctly. Thanks Mike J.
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:01 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] C88+ and PS CS3 Hi Eric, Thanks for responding. If I select a profile to print, the preview gets very light. If I just print the photo with no profile, the preview and the print match and are fine. I assume I need to change something in Paul's processes with CS3. Thanks Mike J. -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Eric Neilsen Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:17 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] C88+ and PS CS3 Mike, While I have been having some issues with the WHOLE CS3 Design package, printing quality is NOT among them. In fact, I find the new interface of CS3 to be very nice. I am working with XP Home SP2 and using a 4800 to output. First eliminate the possible clogged nozzle, then look into what setting have a new or different default if any. I have printed to the 4800 using CS3, Lightroom and Qimage with a variety profiles and setting; ABW, color, and Digital Negs without a problem due to color management. I did check into the reported issue of CS3 not saving a print set up within a session. I was able to reproduce that problem but only if I printed through another app while CS3 was still open. i.e. Output through Q Image with a print set up in CS3 and not sent to the printer yet. Otherwise, CS3 remembered the "set up to print" just fine. Are these new lighter prints from both new files and legacy files? Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____