Digital BW, The Print

My c86 has been sitting for several months (using dedicated MIS inks). The nozzles are 
clogged. I have done several cleanings and it has improved somewhat, but about half of the 
test pattern is missing. Is this printer history or is it worth it to have epson repair it?

Having said that, I was wanting to upgrade to a printer that I can make larger prints on. Is 
the 1400 a good "upgrade"? Will it yield a good digital b&w print? Do I need certain 
photoshop plugins?

Additionally, what can I do in the future to prevent these clogs.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I use MIS EZ inks in a C88, and tried it yesterday after letting it sit 
for about 6 months.  It initially showed virtually no nozzles firing, 
and a cleaning cycle didn't help.  I used the Windex on a paper towel 
trick (about 3 layers of paper towel folded/cut to the width and length 
of the foam pad under where the head travels, soaked in Windex) and 
after running the head over the wet towel a few times I let it sit for a 
few minutes.  After that, all nozzles were firing.

I'd sure try this (several times, if needed) before giving up on the 
printer.  As for Epson repair, I don't know if that's really an option 
on these little printers.  They're still available new for under $100 
direct from Epson (last I looked) and I'd expect a repair to cost a 
goodly percentage of that amount.  If you were thinking about upgrading 
the size anyway, though, it might not be worth even fiddling with 
unclogging the heads.

Cheers,
Kip

Steve wrote:
>
> My c86 has been sitting for several months (using dedicated MIS inks). 
> The nozzles are
> clogged. I have done several cleanings and it has improved somewhat, 
> but about half of the
> test pattern is missing. Is this printer history or is it worth it to 
> have epson repair it?
>
> Having said that, I was wanting to upgrade to a printer that I can 
> make larger prints on. Is
> the 1400 a good "upgrade"? Will it yield a good digital b&w print? Do 
> I need certain
> photoshop plugins?
>
> Additionally, what can I do in the future to prevent these clogs.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 
> _,_._,___ 


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Kip:

Thanks for the info.

Have you heard about the results from the 1400?

I don't have a need (or the space) for a wide printer, so I haven't paid 
much attention to the choices.  I do see that there has been a lot 
written recently about the 1400 on this forum, though, and I believe 
there certainly are some who find it suitable.

Cheers,
Kip

Steve wrote:
>
> Kip:
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Have you heard about the results from the 1400?
>


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" 
<fireofgodnow@...> wrote:
>
> Kip:
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> Have you heard about the results from the 1400?
>
 I have the 1400 and run Eboni in the K position and distilled water 
in the color positions.

I print exclusively B.O. with this printer and I think it is awesome.

I don't even think about it as printing with only K. It's a non-issue 
for me.

Everyone I show the prints from this print to, who appreciate b&w 
photography, love the prints.

FWIW,

Scott

"scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
>
>...
>  I have the 1400 and run Eboni in the K position and 
> distilled water in the color positions.
> 
> I print exclusively B.O. with this printer and I 
> think it is awesome.
> 
...

I think it's my favorite platform also.  I use the QTR sliders for a 
50/50 blend of the Eb6-YK and BO.  I just wish they made a 24" version 
of it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul,

Can you recommend what would be the best Epson 24" printer to use MIS Eboni
in? Are current or newer models better or can only older models be used with
this ink? 

Thanks,

Gary W. 

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pr_roark
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:18 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] c86 & 1400 questions Need HELP

 

"scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
>
>...
> I have the 1400 and run Eboni in the K position and 
> distilled water in the color positions.
> 
> I print exclusively B.O. with this printer and I 
> think it is awesome.
> 
...

I think it's my favorite platform also. I use the QTR sliders for a 
50/50 blend of the Eb6-YK and BO. I just wish they made a 24" version 
of it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

 



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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@> wrote:
> >
> >...
> >  I have the 1400 and run Eboni in the K position and 
> > distilled water in the color positions.
> > 
> > I print exclusively B.O. with this printer and I 
> > think it is awesome.
> > 
> ...
> 
> I think it's my favorite platform also.  I use the QTR sliders for a 
> 50/50 blend of the Eb6-YK and BO.  I just wish they made a 24" version 
> of it.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
Where can I find more information about using Eboni, Eb6-Yk and
distilled water with a 1400?  Paul, I looked on your site but must
have missed it.

Thanks,

Tom

"Gary Wagner" <gcwagner@...> wrote:
>
> Paul,
> 
> Can you recommend what would be the best Epson 24" printer 
> to use MIS Eboni in? Are current or newer models better or 
> can only older models be used with this ink? 
> 

I'm sure the new ones are an improvement, and the service bureau guys 
on this forum and the wide format forum know a lot more about them than 
I do. For my B&W needs, I doubt the improvments are all that 
significant.  The drop size has not changed significantly since the 
7600.  For B&W, we don't need the extra inks, and for an individual 
photographer the speed increases are probably not that important.

I'm still using an old 7500.  That old non-variable, relatively large 
droplet printer does quite a good job with Eboni-6.  But it really 
shows the dots with the Y-K only approach that I'd now rather use.  I 
actually do have a 22x28 Y-K only print that I'm going to frame and put 
in the gallery just to see if anyone notices, but I can't really 
recommend the old 7500-7000 for the Y-K approach.

If I needed to buy a 24" printer today, I'd probably go for a good 7600 
if I could find one.  Then I would use the Eb6 4Y3K setup, but I'd only 
print 16x20 and up with it.  I've put some information about my 2200 
tests of the approach at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/K2-Eb6-
4Y3K.pdf  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

What'll really get my attention is a 1.5 pl 24" printer.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Tom,

...
> Where can I find more information about using Eboni, Eb6-Yk and
> distilled water with a 1400?  Paul, I looked on your site but must
> have missed it.

I have not written the 1400 YK option up as a separate approach at 
this point.  I do have some profiles in 
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Profiles.zip
for those with Eboni-6 in their 1400s.  They can then see what the YK 
alone and with a 50/50 blend of black only looks like.

I'd probably not use water in the other positions.  I like the idea 
of 3Y3K or 4Y2K just to avoid having to re-fill the carts all the 
time -- particularly the Y cart.  A 2 bottle CIS would be a nice 
addition to this type of setup.  I just converted my old 2200 
SuperJet CIS to this for the 2200 -- cut the ribbon, drill holes in 
MIS bottles, and insert the tubes (with some wire holding them 
together in the bottle).  It's easy (if a bit messy with a used CIS). 

For most people the Eboni-6 as written up is probably the way to 
start.  But I'm probably going to conver to a YK combo -- just don't 
need the other inks in 1.5 pl printers.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:58 PM, pr_roark <pr_roark@...> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I have not written the 1400 YK option up as a separate approach at
> this point.  I do have some profiles in
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Profiles.zip
> for those with Eboni-6 in their 1400s.  They can then see what the YK
> alone and with a 50/50 blend of black only looks like.
>
> I'd probably not use water in the other positions.  I like the idea
> of 3Y3K or 4Y2K just to avoid having to re-fill the carts all the
> time -- particularly the Y cart.  A 2 bottle CIS would be a nice
> addition to this type of setup.  I just converted my old 2200
> SuperJet CIS to this for the 2200 -- cut the ribbon, drill holes in
> MIS bottles, and insert the tubes (with some wire holding them
> together in the bottle).  It's easy (if a bit messy with a used CIS).
>
> For most people the Eboni-6 as written up is probably the way to
> start.  But I'm probably going to conver to a YK combo -- just don't
> need the other inks in 1.5 pl printers.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
> It's fascinating what you have done for B&W printing, Paul.  Thanks very
much.

Tom


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@> wrote:
> >
> >...
> >  I have the 1400 and run Eboni in the K position and 
> > distilled water in the color positions.
> > 
> > I print exclusively B.O. with this printer and I 
> > think it is awesome.
> > 
> ...
> 
> I think it's my favorite platform also.  I use the QTR sliders for a 
> 50/50 blend of the Eb6-YK and BO.  I just wish they made a 24" version 
> of it.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

What about the Epson 3800? I´ve never read much here about this model.
Is it not compatible with the MIS inks? In other Newsgroups some
owners of this model are very much convinced of the print quality.
What do you think Paul?
>

"frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@...> wrote:
>
... 
> What about the Epson 3800? I´ve never read much here about this model.
> Is it not compatible with the MIS inks? 

I think it's an attractive package for those doing color who want to be 
able to print 16x20s.  That's quite a large group of poeple.  It also 
has the ABW option, and with QTR one can cut the color down quite a bit.

But, it's not capable of the 24" paper I like, and it is not a 1.5 
picoliter droplet printer that can make a photo quality black only 
print.

I'm not sure if MIS supports the printer, but I doubt they have any B&W 
inksets for it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Is anyone using the 3800 with MIS inks?

Thanks

Gary W.

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pr_roark
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:08 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: c86 & 1400 questions Need HELP

 

"frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@...> wrote:
>
... 
> What about the Epson 3800? I´ve never read much here about this model.
> Is it not compatible with the MIS inks? 

I think it's an attractive package for those doing color who want to be 
able to print 16x20s. That's quite a large group of poeple. It also 
has the ABW option, and with QTR one can cut the color down quite a bit.

But, it's not capable of the 24" paper I like, and it is not a 1.5 
picoliter droplet printer that can make a photo quality black only 
print.

I'm not sure if MIS supports the printer, but I doubt they have any B&W 
inksets for it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

 



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> It also has the ABW option, and with QTR one can cut the color down 
quite a bit.

Paul,
Do you have any numbers or info for the differnce in color ink used 
for ABW vs. QTR.  I use both ...

Has anyone measured the Dmax for these? 

Thanks!
SteveB   


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> "frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@> wrote:
> >
> ... 
> > What about the Epson 3800? I´ve never read much here about this 
model.
> > Is it not compatible with the MIS inks? 
> 
> I think it's an attractive package for those doing color who want 
to be 
> able to print 16x20s.  That's quite a large group of poeple.  It 
also 
> has the ABW option, and with QTR one can cut the color down quite a 
bit.
> 
> But, it's not capable of the 24" paper I like, and it is not a 1.5 
> picoliter droplet printer that can make a photo quality black only 
> print.
> 
> I'm not sure if MIS supports the printer, but I doubt they have any 
B&W 

> inksets for it.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

"steveabrink" <steveabrink@...> wrote:
>
> > It also has the ABW option, and with QTR one can cut 
> > the color down quite a bit.

> Paul,
> Do you have any numbers or info for the differnce in color ink used 
> for ABW vs. QTR.  I use both ...

I don't have any way to quantify how much more color ABW uses over QTR, 
but a quick look at a scan of an "neutral" ABW test print scan on page 
1 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-Lightfastness.pdf indicates 
that Epson uses yellow as well as the cyan and magenta.  This high 
gamut yellow warms up the print significantly, and this additional 
warmth over the naturally somewhat warm carbon requires that much more 
C & M to cool it down.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul,

Can you tell me if the Epson 7800/7880 would be interchangeable with the
profiles, MIS inks and cartridges of the 7600? I see 7600 listed on the MIS
website but not the 7800 or 7880. I will only be using it for B&W.

Thanks,

Gary Wagner 

 

If I needed to buy a 24" printer today, I'd probably go for a good 7600 
if I could find one. Then I would use the Eb6 4Y3K setup, but I'd only 
print 16x20 and up with it. I've put some information about my 2200 
tests of the approach at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/K2-Eb6-
4Y3K.pdf 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

What'll really get my attention is a 1.5 pl 24" printer.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

 

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Gary,

 
> Can you tell me if the Epson 7800/7880 would be interchangeable
> with the profiles, MIS inks and cartridges of the 7600? 

I'm quite sure it would not be.  Be sure you can get carts and a chip 
resetter for a printer before you buy one.

> I see 7600 listed on the MIS website but not the 7800 or 7880.

See http://www.inksupply.com/wideformat.cfm and plug in the printer 
model.

See also http://www.inksupply.com/funnelfill.cfm

Good luck with the printer search.

(I'm not having much luck convincing my wife that a 9600 would look 
better in the living room than our couch.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul,

I have heard that couch story before and I though the idea of disguising it
as a coffee or end table when not in use was a great idea.

Thanks,

Gary 

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pr_roark
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:38 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] c86 & 1400 questions Need HELP - Epson 24"?

 

Gary,

> Can you tell me if the Epson 7800/7880 would be interchangeable
> with the profiles, MIS inks and cartridges of the 7600? 

I'm quite sure it would not be. Be sure you can get carts and a chip 
resetter for a printer before you buy one.

> I see 7600 listed on the MIS website but not the 7800 or 7880.

See http://www.inksupply.com/wideformat.cfm and plug in the printer 
model.

See also http://www.inksupply.com/funnelfill.cfm

Good luck with the printer search.

(I'm not having much luck convincing my wife that a 9600 would look 
better in the living room than our couch.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

 



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Any recommendations on these two packages ? Which would you choose ?

 

-----------------------------------------------------

Brian Corll



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How about a couple of candles and a piano bench ? :)

Duane


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Wagner"
<gcwagner@...> wrote:
>
> Paul,
> 
> I have heard that couch story before and I though the idea of
disguising it
> as a coffee or end table when not in use was a great idea.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary 
> 
>  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
pr_roark

> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:38 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] c86 & 1400 questions Need HELP - Epson 24"?
> 
>  
> 
> Gary,
> 
> > Can you tell me if the Epson 7800/7880 would be interchangeable
> > with the profiles, MIS inks and cartridges of the 7600? 
> 
> I'm quite sure it would not be. Be sure you can get carts and a chip 
> resetter for a printer before you buy one.
> 
> > I see 7600 listed on the MIS website but not the 7800 or 7880.
> 
> See http://www.inksupply.com/wideformat.cfm and plug in the printer 
> model.
> 
> See also http://www.inksupply.com/funnelfill.cfm
> 
> Good luck with the printer search.
> 
> (I'm not having much luck convincing my wife that a 9600 would look 
> better in the living room than our couch.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

The problem with wide-format printers is I can't hide them in the attic
cubbyholes like I do with most of the things I buy, as if they were
Christmas presents.

 

-----------------------------------------------------

Brian Corll

> (I'm not having much luck convincing my wife that a 9600 would look 
> better in the living room than our couch.)
> 
> Paul





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You will get the same functionality for printer profiling from either;  
since the S3Print software can be used for free with the PFP spectro.  
The difference will be the S2Pro software and hardware versus the  
S3Elite versions, which offer some excellent improvements in both.

C. D. Tobie
WW Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
DataColor.com
CDTobie@DataColor.com

On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:01 PM, "Brian Corll" <briancorll@comcast.net>  
wrote:

> Any recommendations on these two packages ? Which would you choose ?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Brian Corll
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Thanks. I went ahead and ordered the Spyder3 Studio from Adorama. Should be here tomorrow !

 

-----------------------------------------------------

Brian Corll

1002 East Simpson Street

Mechanicsburg, PA 17055

Tel.: (717) 691-0286

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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:37 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Spyder3 Studio or PrintFix Pro 2 ?

 

You will get the same functionality for printer profiling from either; 
since the S3Print software can be used for free with the PFP spectro. 
The difference will be the S2Pro software and hardware versus the 
S3Elite versions, which offer some excellent improvements in both.

C. D. Tobie
WW Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
DataColor.com
CDTobie@DataColor.com <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com> 

On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:01 PM, "Brian Corll" <briancorll@... <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> > 
wrote:

> Any recommendations on these two packages ? Which would you choose ?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Brian Corll
>
>
>
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>
>
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I’ve been a longtime lurker – back to an Epson C84 / CIS from MIS.

 

I’ve ordered the same Spyder3 Studio after a disastrous run with the Colormunki Photo and hoping to get it soon.

 

I posted my experience as part of a thread at Luminous Landscape.

 

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?s=12b3d0cd71f4e01a24926a9b0e054772 <http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?s=12b3d0cd71f4e01a24926a9b0e054772&showtopic=24632&pid=239595&st=100&#entry239595> &showtopic=24632&pid=239595&st=100&#entry239595

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Corll
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:11 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Spyder3 Studio or PrintFix Pro 2 ?

 

Thanks. I went ahead and ordered the Spyder3 Studio from Adorama. Should be here tomorrow !

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Brian Corll

1002 East Simpson Street

Mechanicsburg, PA 17055

Tel.: (717) 691-0286

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Cdtobie
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:37 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Spyder3 Studio or PrintFix Pro 2 ?

You will get the same functionality for printer profiling from either; 
since the S3Print software can be used for free with the PFP spectro. 
The difference will be the S2Pro software and hardware versus the 
S3Elite versions, which offer some excellent improvements in both.

C. D. Tobie
WW Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
DataColor.com
CDTobie@... <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com>  <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com> 

On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:01 PM, "Brian Corll" <briancorll@... <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net>  <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> > 
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> Any recommendations on these two packages ? Which would you choose ?
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