Doepfer

Hi

I have a s6U ystem which is about half doepfer and the rest is 
analogue systems and analogue solutions. at the moment I have it in a 
homebrew wooden case with wooden rails. 

If I moved the whole thing into a doepfer suitcase would I have 
trouble combining the other modules with Doepfer in the same row? It 
seems the hole spacing might be different??

I am wondering how people get around this?

Richard

I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack cabinets (which are  
VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing difference in the two  
manufacturers - it is equal to half the space between two screw holes  
in the rails. All this will result in is a gap between the set of AS  
modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space between two rail holes  
- not very much. I have to admit that I went to the effort of  
drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate (I'm sorta anal  
about it though). As long as you keep the AS modules together there  
will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer modules (not  
between the AS modules themselves)

-James

On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:41 PM, funkycholrton wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a s6U ystem which is about half doepfer and the rest is
> analogue systems and analogue solutions. at the moment I have it in a
> homebrew wooden case with wooden rails.
>
> If I moved the whole thing into a doepfer suitcase would I have
> trouble combining the other modules with Doepfer in the same row? It
> seems the hole spacing might be different??
>
> I am wondering how people get around this?
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack cabinets (which are
> VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing difference in the two
> manufacturers - it is equal to half the space between two screw holes
> in the rails. All this will result in is a gap between the set of AS
> modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space between two rail holes
> - not very much. I have to admit that I went to the effort of
> drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate (I'm sorta anal
> about it though). As long as you keep the AS modules together there
> will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer modules (not
> between the AS modules themselves)
>
> -James

If you send me a dimensional drawing I could ask our front panel
manufacturer to produce a blind panel ( "1.5 TE" or so) to compensate the
gap. It would be cheap (~ Euro 2...3) provided that we obtain sufficient
pre-orders (min. 50, otherwise the price will increase because of the
non-recurring machine programming charges).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Bakis - how about a poll (including the option "would you buy such a
compensation panel if it's in the Euro 2...3 range)

When mounting a Doepfer bus board in a "generic" eurorack case I came upon
a  similar problem (I think Doepfer uses individual nuts for mounting bus
boards whereas this case came with a rail). I snapped the rail in halves,
then removed a hole or two more and now it all fits. Whether you would do
that with rails for module mounting is a different matter, though, as you
may want to have some flexibility in rearranging your modules and breaking
the rails in halves may result in some trouble when reorganizing later.

/Silas

On 9/5/07, James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@mac.com> wrote:
>
>   I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack cabinets (which are
> VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing difference in the two
> manufacturers - it is equal to half the space between two screw holes
> in the rails. All this will result in is a gap between the set of AS
> modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space between two rail holes
> - not very much. I have to admit that I went to the effort of
> drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate (I'm sorta anal
> about it though). As long as you keep the AS modules together there
> will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer modules (not
> between the AS modules themselves)
>
> -James
>
> On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:41 PM, funkycholrton wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a s6U ystem which is about half doepfer and the rest is
> > analogue systems and analogue solutions. at the moment I have it in a
> > homebrew wooden case with wooden rails.
> >
> > If I moved the whole thing into a doepfer suitcase would I have
> > trouble combining the other modules with Doepfer in the same row? It
> > seems the hole spacing might be different??
> >
> > I am wondering how people get around this?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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For my DIY rack I used something that is called "Gleitmuttern" in
german."slide nuts" would be the english translation, but i am not
sure. I got them from Proma in germany - the same company that
produces the doepfer euro-racks. www.proma-systro.de
with those i dont have any compatibility problems between modules.

hel


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Silas Johansen" <sijodk@...> wrote:
>
> When mounting a Doepfer bus board in a "generic" eurorack case I
came upon
> a  similar problem (I think Doepfer uses individual nuts for
mounting bus
> boards whereas this case came with a rail). I snapped the rail in
halves,
> then removed a hole or two more and now it all fits. Whether you
would do
> that with rails for module mounting is a different matter, though,
as you
> may want to have some flexibility in rearranging your modules and
breaking
> the rails in halves may result in some trouble when reorganizing later.
> 
> /Silas
> 
> On 9/5/07, James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@...> wrote:
> >
> >   I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack cabinets (which are
> > VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing difference in the two
> > manufacturers - it is equal to half the space between two screw holes
> > in the rails. All this will result in is a gap between the set of AS
> > modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space between two rail holes
> > - not very much. I have to admit that I went to the effort of
> > drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate (I'm sorta anal
> > about it though). As long as you keep the AS modules together there
> > will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer modules (not
> > between the AS modules themselves)
> >
> > -James
> >
> > On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:41 PM, funkycholrton wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have a s6U ystem which is about half doepfer and the rest is
> > > analogue systems and analogue solutions. at the moment I have it
in a

> > > homebrew wooden case with wooden rails.
> > >
> > > If I moved the whole thing into a doepfer suitcase would I have
> > > trouble combining the other modules with Doepfer in the same row? It
> > > seems the hole spacing might be different??
> > >
> > > I am wondering how people get around this?
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

ok, Poll is ready!
please vote! 
it will last for 3 weeks from now.
best regards,
Bakis.


--- hardware@doepfer.de wrote:

> > I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack
> cabinets (which are
> > VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing
> difference in the two
> > manufacturers - it is equal to half the space
> between two screw holes
> > in the rails. All this will result in is a gap
> between the set of AS
> > modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space
> between two rail holes
> > - not very much. I have to admit that I went to
> the effort of
> > drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate
> (I'm sorta anal
> > about it though). As long as you keep the AS
> modules together there
> > will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer
> modules (not
> > between the AS modules themselves)
> >
> > -James
> 
> If you send me a dimensional drawing I could ask our
> front panel
> manufacturer to produce a blind panel ( "1.5 TE" or
> so) to compensate the
> gap. It would be cheap (~ Euro 2...3) provided that
> we obtain sufficient
> pre-orders (min. 50, otherwise the price will
> increase because of the
> non-recurring machine programming charges).
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> Bakis - how about a poll (including the option
> "would you buy such a
> compensation panel if it's in the Euro 2...3 range)
> 
> 


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I would imagine that 1.5TE (around 7.5MM) wide module would work  
fine. Just add 2.5mm to one side of the standard 2hp blank module. It  
would be nice to offer them in pairs since most often they would be  
used that way (on both sides of a single or group of AS modules). The  
AS modules are all multiples of 6HP wide which is not a problem but  
the main difference is the all have their mounting holes 5 mm from  
the panel edges where the Doepfer ones are 7.5 mm from the edges.  
This difference leaves the 2.5 mm gap between modules. A panel that  
is 7.5 mm wide would fill this gap. to some this may be too big of a  
blank panel to use. Another option may be to just offer a cheap  
utility module, like a multiples module, in a version that is 2.5 mm  
wider. of course since using a AS module in a Doepfer system would  
leave a gap on both sides it would cost more to plug that gap with  
two multiple modules instead of two blanks.

-James

On Sep 5, 2007, at 1:46 AM, hardware@doepfer.de wrote:

>> I have both Doepfer and AS in my 2 portable rack cabinets (which are
>> VERY nice units BTW) and there is a spacing difference in the two
>> manufacturers - it is equal to half the space between two screw holes
>> in the rails. All this will result in is a gap between the set of AS
>> modules and the Doepfer ones of half the space between two rail holes
>> - not very much. I have to admit that I went to the effort of
>> drilling new holes on my AS modules to compensate (I'm sorta anal
>> about it though). As long as you keep the AS modules together there
>> will only be the gap between them and the Doepfer modules (not
>> between the AS modules themselves)
>>
>> -James
>
> If you send me a dimensional drawing I could ask our front panel
> manufacturer to produce a blind panel ( "1.5 TE" or so) to  
> compensate the
> gap. It would be cheap (~ Euro 2...3) provided that we obtain  
> sufficient
> pre-orders (min. 50, otherwise the price will increase because of the
> non-recurring machine programming charges).
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
> Bakis - how about a poll (including the option "would you buy such a
> compensation panel if it's in the Euro 2...3 range)
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>