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reverb sheild

2005-03-28 by thomasborax

hi ladies (hopefully there's 1 or 2) and gentlemen-
i was talking to shawn at analogue haven, who recommended against my 
putting a spring reverb in a suitcase.  i wondered if anyone tried 
this using the new PSU, which supposedly causes less noise due to ring 
core transformer?
also, i'm curious if anyone has attempted to sheild the reverb unit?  
perhaps covering it in tin foil, and attaching a ground from the 
transformer or bus board to the foil?
i could drill holes of course, but i'd like to have the tank nice and 
snug in the case so i don't have to futz with it when traveling.

thx-
tom

Re: [Doepfer_a100] reverb sheild

2005-03-28 by jkn@johei.com

I'm very interested in the answer to this one also... I was planning to
put one into my (future) suitcase.    The manual to it mentioned placing
it away from sound sources - is that easier to do in a rack rather than a
suitcase?   Note - I don't own any Doepfer gear yet - I'm in the
researched and read just about everything, but haven't actually bought
anything yet category...

jkn
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>
> hi ladies (hopefully there's 1 or 2) and gentlemen-
> i was talking to shawn at analogue haven, who recommended against my
> putting a spring reverb in a suitcase.  i wondered if anyone tried
> this using the new PSU, which supposedly causes less noise due to ring
> core transformer?
> also, i'm curious if anyone has attempted to sheild the reverb unit?
> perhaps covering it in tin foil, and attaching a ground from the
> transformer or bus board to the foil?
> i could drill holes of course, but i'd like to have the tank nice and
> snug in the case so i don't have to futz with it when traveling.
>
> thx-
> tom
>
>
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] reverb sheild

2005-03-29 by Dieter Doepfer

> also, i'm curious if anyone has attempted to sheild the reverb unit?
> perhaps covering it in tin foil, and attaching a ground from the
> transformer or bus board to the foil?

We have built a shield (before the PSUII) made of 1 mm steel that covered
the spring system completely but it did not help very much. The problem is
the magnetic shielding not the electrical shielding. A simple foil will not
help from our experience. The only material I know that can be used for
magnetic shielding is u-metal (the greek u). I don't know if the same term
is used in English language. But this material is very expensive and hard to
find.

We show the A-199 in a suitcase with PSUII in Frankfurt. I will tell you the
results after the fair.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] reverb sheild

2005-03-29 by Josue Arias

Hi Dieter and group

In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get some
of them here:
http://www.lessemf.com/

Best Regards,

Josue.
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:09:01 +0200, Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:
> 
> > also, i'm curious if anyone has attempted to sheild the reverb unit?
> > perhaps covering it in tin foil, and attaching a ground from the
> > transformer or bus board to the foil?
> 
> We have built a shield (before the PSUII) made of 1 mm steel that covered
> the spring system completely but it did not help very much. The problem is
> the magnetic shielding not the electrical shielding. A simple foil will not
> help from our experience. The only material I know that can be used for
> magnetic shielding is u-metal (the greek u). I don't know if the same term
> is used in English language. But this material is very expensive and hard to
> find.
> 
> We show the A-199 in a suitcase with PSUII in Frankfurt. I will tell you the
> results after the fair.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: reverb sheild

2005-03-30 by thomasborax

hello-
great link.  thx!  expensive yes, though the amount needed is 
small...who can put a value on a wild reverb sound?
--t


> Hi Dieter and group
> 
> In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get some
> of them here:
> http://www.lessemf.com/
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Josue.
> 
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:09:01 +0200, Dieter Doepfer <hardware@d...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > > also, i'm curious if anyone has attempted to sheild the reverb 
unit?
> > > perhaps covering it in tin foil, and attaching a ground from the
> > > transformer or bus board to the foil?
> > 
> > We have built a shield (before the PSUII) made of 1 mm steel that 
covered
> > the spring system completely but it did not help very much. The 
problem is
> > the magnetic shielding not the electrical shielding. A simple 
foil will not
> > help from our experience. The only material I know that can be 
used for
> > magnetic shielding is u-metal (the greek u). I don't know if the 
same term
> > is used in English language. But this material is very expensive 
and hard to
> > find.
> > 
> > We show the A-199 in a suitcase with PSUII in Frankfurt. I will 
tell you the
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> > results after the fair.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >

Re: reverb sheild

2005-10-13 by Ernst Karel

Can anyone report on having tried this mu-metal in a suitcase with the old power supply?  
Does it completely eliminate the hum?

thanks,
Ernst

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@y...> wrote:
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>
> 
> hello-
> great link.  thx!  expensive yes, though the amount needed is 
> small...who can put a value on a wild reverb sound?
> --t
> 
> 
> > Hi Dieter and group
> > 
> > In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get some
> > of them here:
> > http://www.lessemf.com/
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> > Josue.

Re: reverb sheild

2005-10-15 by thomasborax

ernst-
as it happened, i never tried the mu metal.  i didn't find the price 
prohibitive, since it only required 20$ to do the job, and i did find 
that goofy sheilding company kinda charming, but i did something else 
which turned out pretty easy.

i drilled a hole through the wood strip across the bottom of the 
front panel, cut the rca cable coming from the pc board halfway 
between the board and the jacks, threaded the remaining lenth of 
cable through the hole, screwed the module in, and soldered the jack-
end of the cable back onto the rest of the cable.  whenever i pack up 
the suitcase for a gig, i just unplug the tank (which sits wherever 
away from the psu) and tuck the cable in along with my patch mess and 
close the door.

doesn't answer your question, but if i recall correctly you already 
drilled mults in your wood strip, so you probably wouldn't find 
another hole sacrelige.

ok-tom


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst Karel" <eklkrl@g...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Can anyone report on having tried this mu-metal in a suitcase with 
the old power supply?  
> Does it completely eliminate the hum?
> 
> thanks,
> Ernst
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" 
<thomasborax@y...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > hello-
> > great link.  thx!  expensive yes, though the amount needed is 
> > small...who can put a value on a wild reverb sound?
> > --t
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Dieter and group
> > > 
> > > In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get 
some
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> > > of them here:
> > > http://www.lessemf.com/
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > 
> > > Josue.
>

Re: reverb sheild

2008-08-19 by swordsect

My A-199 has an awful buzz, i've tried moving it as far away from
the PSU as possible, there's still a buzz, its pretty much useless
at this point because its so bad.  So for the Mu-Metal Foil, if you
were to get some of this, where would you put it on the module? 
would you just wrap the RCA cord in it?  Thanks! Jon


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@...>
wrote:
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>
> ernst-
> as it happened, i never tried the mu metal.  i didn't find the price 
> prohibitive, since it only required 20$ to do the job, and i did find 
> that goofy sheilding company kinda charming, but i did something else 
> which turned out pretty easy.
> 
> i drilled a hole through the wood strip across the bottom of the 
> front panel, cut the rca cable coming from the pc board halfway 
> between the board and the jacks, threaded the remaining lenth of 
> cable through the hole, screwed the module in, and soldered the jack-
> end of the cable back onto the rest of the cable.  whenever i pack up 
> the suitcase for a gig, i just unplug the tank (which sits wherever 
> away from the psu) and tuck the cable in along with my patch mess and 
> close the door.
> 
> doesn't answer your question, but if i recall correctly you already 
> drilled mults in your wood strip, so you probably wouldn't find 
> another hole sacrelige.
> 
> ok-tom
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst Karel" <eklkrl@g...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Can anyone report on having tried this mu-metal in a suitcase with 
> the old power supply?  
> > Does it completely eliminate the hum?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Ernst
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" 
> <thomasborax@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > hello-
> > > great link.  thx!  expensive yes, though the amount needed is 
> > > small...who can put a value on a wild reverb sound?
> > > --t
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hi Dieter and group
> > > > 
> > > > In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get 
> some
> > > > of them here:
> > > > http://www.lessemf.com/
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Josue.
> >
>

Re: reverb sheild

2008-08-19 by swordsect

Oh and I should also say that i'm using an Accutronics
Spring, and its mounted outside my case......tried
testing the module with the doepfer spring and it 
still does the same thing......so I guess I should
also ask as far as the MU-METAL goes, do you wrap
the Spring Tank in it?


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "swordsect" <asher.jonas@...> wrote:
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>
> My A-199 has an awful buzz, i've tried moving it as far away from
> the PSU as possible, there's still a buzz, its pretty much useless
> at this point because its so bad.  So for the Mu-Metal Foil, if you
> were to get some of this, where would you put it on the module? 
> would you just wrap the RCA cord in it?  Thanks! Jon
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@>
> wrote:
> >
> > ernst-
> > as it happened, i never tried the mu metal.  i didn't find the price 
> > prohibitive, since it only required 20$ to do the job, and i did find 
> > that goofy sheilding company kinda charming, but i did something else 
> > which turned out pretty easy.
> > 
> > i drilled a hole through the wood strip across the bottom of the 
> > front panel, cut the rca cable coming from the pc board halfway 
> > between the board and the jacks, threaded the remaining lenth of 
> > cable through the hole, screwed the module in, and soldered the jack-
> > end of the cable back onto the rest of the cable.  whenever i pack up 
> > the suitcase for a gig, i just unplug the tank (which sits wherever 
> > away from the psu) and tuck the cable in along with my patch mess and 
> > close the door.
> > 
> > doesn't answer your question, but if i recall correctly you already 
> > drilled mults in your wood strip, so you probably wouldn't find 
> > another hole sacrelige.
> > 
> > ok-tom
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst Karel" <eklkrl@g...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Can anyone report on having tried this mu-metal in a suitcase with 
> > the old power supply?  
> > > Does it completely eliminate the hum?
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > Ernst
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" 
> > <thomasborax@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > hello-
> > > > great link.  thx!  expensive yes, though the amount needed is 
> > > > small...who can put a value on a wild reverb sound?
> > > > --t
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Dieter and group
> > > > > 
> > > > > In English is know as mu-metal, and very expensive, you can get 
> > some
> > > > > of them here:
> > > > > http://www.lessemf.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Josue.
> > >
> >
>

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