Fairlight-CMI

I' ve stoppped sampling in the IIx since 2 years as I don' t have 
anymore 8" inch disks to save the sounds. I' m also thinking about 
selling it as I' ve transfered all my library in more recent gear 
that use compact flash card. Some friends have lost sounds as those 
8" disks are getting less and less reliable. No doubt that many of us 
will lose important data within the next years. Finally the IIx will 
become a completely unusable sampler.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson 
<jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently which 
will not
> format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that the 
floppy
> disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all CMI 2X 
users as
> even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will work !
>  There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I urge them 
to
> please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage soon. 
This
> needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X. 
Eventually all
> floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage method 
for the
> CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be kept 
going.
>  I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks promising. 
Many

> thanks,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> James Thomson
> 
> Magic Audio Co.
> The Studio
> West Hampstead
> London NW2 3RJ
> U.K.
>

Hi,

I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently which will not
format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that the floppy
disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all CMI 2X users as
even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will work !
 There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I urge them to
please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage soon. This
needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X. Eventually all
floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage method for the
CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be kept going.
 I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks promising. Many
thanks,

Regards,



James Thomson

Magic Audio Co.
The Studio
West Hampstead
London NW2 3RJ
U.K.

I've seen somewhere on the internet that somebody's doing a replacement 
drive for the IIx. A 3"1/2 drive instead of the old 8".
I will try to refind that link.

Le 27 nov. 05, à 16:21, paradyse_james a écrit :

> I' ve stoppped sampling in the IIx since 2 years as I don' t have
>  anymore 8" inch disks to save the sounds. I' m also thinking about
>  selling it as I' ve transfered all my library in more recent gear
>  that use compact flash card. Some friends have lost sounds as those
>  8" disks are getting less and less reliable. No doubt that many of us
>  will lose important data within the next years. Finally the IIx will
>  become a completely unusable sampler.
>
>  --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson
>  <jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently which
>  will not
>  > format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that the
>  floppy
>  > disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all CMI 2X
>  users as
>  > even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will work !
>  >  There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I urge them
>  to
>  > please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage soon.
>  This
>  > needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X.
>  Eventually all
>  > floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage method
>  for the
>  > CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be kept
>  going.
>  >  I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks promising.
>  Many
>  > thanks,
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > James Thomson
>  >
>  > Magic Audio Co.
>  > The Studio
>  > West Hampstead
>  > London NW2 3RJ
>  > U.K.
>  >
>
>
>
>
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And for buying 8" floppies;
http://members.aon.at/virtual-music/zonen_e/e_products_fair.htm


Le 27 nov. 05, à 16:21, paradyse_james a écrit :

> I' ve stoppped sampling in the IIx since 2 years as I don' t have
>  anymore 8" inch disks to save the sounds. I' m also thinking about
>  selling it as I' ve transfered all my library in more recent gear
>  that use compact flash card. Some friends have lost sounds as those
>  8" disks are getting less and less reliable. No doubt that many of us
>  will lose important data within the next years. Finally the IIx will
>  become a completely unusable sampler.
>
>  --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson
>  <jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently which
>  will not
>  > format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that the
>  floppy
>  > disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all CMI 2X
>  users as
>  > even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will work !
>  >  There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I urge them
>  to
>  > please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage soon.
>  This
>  > needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X.
>  Eventually all
>  > floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage method
>  for the
>  > CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be kept
>  going.
>  >  I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks promising.
>  Many
>  > thanks,
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > James Thomson
>  >
>  > Magic Audio Co.
>  > The Studio
>  > West Hampstead
>  > London NW2 3RJ
>  > U.K.
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
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Although technically inept and unable to provide intellectual 
capital for a project like this, I would be happy to help underwrite 
the financial cost as well.  I would love a modern storage system 
for the CMI IIx.


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson 
<jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently which 
will not
> format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that the 
floppy
> disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all CMI 2X 
users as
> even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will work !
>  There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I urge 
them to
> please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage 
soon. This
> needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X. 
Eventually all
> floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage method 
for the
> CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be kept 
going.
>  I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks 
promising. Many

> thanks,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> James Thomson
> 
> Magic Audio Co.
> The Studio
> West Hampstead
> London NW2 3RJ
> U.K.
>

> I've seen somewhere on the internet that somebody's doing a replacement drive
> for the IIx. A 3"1/2 drive instead of the old 8".
> I will try to refind that link.

This definitely has been done before; I once had access to a IIx with two
3.5" drives.

-- 
Malte Rogacki gacki@gacki.sax.de 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you
 get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On 27/11/05 19:17, "Malte Rogacki" <gacki@gacki.sax.de> wrote:

>> I've seen somewhere on the internet that somebody's doing a replacement drive
>> for the IIx. A 3"1/2 drive instead of the old 8".
>> I will try to refind that link.
> 
> This definitely has been done before; I once had access to a IIx with two
> 3.5" drives.


Hi Malte,

 would you mind telling us more about this 2x with 3 1/2" drives? Where was
it and who owned this system ? Did it work well? Many thanks,

James Thomson

IS there enough information on the mod to enable others to get it 
done?  


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Malte Rogacki <gacki@g...> 
wrote:
>
> >  would you mind telling us more about this 2x with 3 1/2" 
drives? Where was
> > it and who owned this system ? Did it work well? Many thanks,
> 
> The IIx had two additional drives "sandwiched" between the 8" 
drives.
> Detailed operation escapes me; this has been roughly ten years 
ago. I
> believe if a floppy was present in the target 3.5 drive it was 
used; if not
> the 8" drive had priority (this is strictly from memory).
> The mod itself worked very well; copying and working with the 3.5 
floppies
> worked like a charm and everything was very quiet.
> I don't recall which way the floppies were formatted but I believe 
it was
> not a standard 1.44 MByte format.
> The modification consisted of the floppies and an additional board 
with
> various chips on it; but the chip labels were scratched off or 
painted over
> (can't remember) for obvious reasons. I'm trying to recall who did 
the
> modification.
> 
> -- 
> Malte Rogacki gacki@g...
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
> "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason 
why you
>  get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
>

>  would you mind telling us more about this 2x with 3 1/2" drives? Where was
> it and who owned this system ? Did it work well? Many thanks,

The IIx had two additional drives "sandwiched" between the 8" drives.
Detailed operation escapes me; this has been roughly ten years ago. I
believe if a floppy was present in the target 3.5 drive it was used; if not
the 8" drive had priority (this is strictly from memory).
The mod itself worked very well; copying and working with the 3.5 floppies
worked like a charm and everything was very quiet.
I don't recall which way the floppies were formatted but I believe it was
not a standard 1.44 MByte format.
The modification consisted of the floppies and an additional board with
various chips on it; but the chip labels were scratched off or painted over
(can't remember) for obvious reasons. I'm trying to recall who did the
modification.

-- 
Malte Rogacki gacki@gacki.sax.de
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you
 get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On 27/11/05 21:25, "Malte Rogacki" <gacki@gacki.sax.de> wrote:

>>  would you mind telling us more about this 2x with 3 1/2" drives? Where was
>> it and who owned this system ? Did it work well? Many thanks,
> 
> The IIx had two additional drives "sandwiched" between the 8" drives.
> Detailed operation escapes me; this has been roughly ten years ago. I
> believe if a floppy was present in the target 3.5 drive it was used; if not
> the 8" drive had priority (this is strictly from memory).
> The mod itself worked very well; copying and working with the 3.5 floppies
> worked like a charm and everything was very quiet.
> I don't recall which way the floppies were formatted but I believe it was
> not a standard 1.44 MByte format.
> The modification consisted of the floppies and an additional board with
> various chips on it; but the chip labels were scratched off or painted over
> (can't remember) for obvious reasons. I'm trying to recall who did the
> modification.


Hi malte,

This sounds brilliant ! Anything you can remember would be appreciated. If
only you knew where this CMI 2X is now.
Cheers,

James Thomson

Dear members

As I also face some big problems with my drives on a IIx, I wonder 
what can be done. WHo knows about drive replacment sources or 
alternative media connection. Should be great to connect a moder 
disk drive instead of the 8" we have.
Is the 3"1/2 drive solution available somewhere as a kit?
Thanks for a reply 
Rgds
Pascal

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE 
<lifelike@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen somewhere on the internet that somebody's doing a 
replacement 
> drive for the IIx. A 3"1/2 drive instead of the old 8".
> I will try to refind that link.
> 
> Le 27 nov. 05, à 16:21, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > I' ve stoppped sampling in the IIx since 2 years as I don' t have
> >  anymore 8" inch disks to save the sounds. I' m also thinking 
about
> >  selling it as I' ve transfered all my library in more recent 
gear
> >  that use compact flash card. Some friends have lost sounds as 
those
> >  8" disks are getting less and less reliable. No doubt that many 
of us
> >  will lose important data within the next years. Finally the IIx 
will
> >  become a completely unusable sampler.
> >
> >  --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson
> >  <jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hi,
> >  >
> >  > I have bought quite a few brand new 8" floppy disks recently 
which
> >  will not
> >  > format. There is nothing wrong with my drives its simply that 
the
> >  floppy
> >  > disks themselves are flawed. This is very worrying for all 
CMI 2X
> >  users as
> >  > even with new disks we are not guaranteed that they will 
work !
> >  >Â  There are some very knowledgeable technicians here and I 
urge them
> >  to
> >  > please come up with an alternative solution for sound storage 
soon.
> >  This
> >  > needs to be made a priority for the future of the CMI 2X.
> >  Eventually all
> >  > floppies will fail and we desperately need a modern storage 
method
> >  for the
> >  > CMI 2X. It is a very creative instrument which deserves to be 
kept
> >  going.
> >  >Â  I am willing to put up some finance if a solution looks 
promising.
> >  Many
> >  > thanks,
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > James Thomson
> >  >
> >  > Magic Audio Co.
> >  > The Studio
> >  > West Hampstead
> >  > London NW2 3RJ
> >  > U.K.
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
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Bonjour Pascal,


J'espere que vous vas bien ! This is one of the biggest wishes of the CMI
community. A few technicians here have had some good ideas for a modern
storage solution for the CMI 2X, but unfortunately we haven't anything yet
that will enable you to forget about the 8" floppy format. It is my opinion
however, that the 8 " format is probably the most reliable of all the floppy
formats. I am amazed how I can load data from 25 year old disks without an
error. I don't think you would be able to say this about the 3 1/2" format !
 I have also tried to resurrect the CMI 2X hard disk option with the help of
a friend ( brilliant technician ) but I have not received the co-operation
needed by certain individuals in the CMI community to make the hard disk
option a reality. There are many secrets held by a few !
 I have to say I am truly amazed that we don't have a 3 1/2 " floppy or 5
1/4" floppy solution. The CMI 2X has been with us since 1982 and still we
have just the 8" format ! There are technical people here ,if they just took
the time, could create a 5 1/4 or 3 1/2" system boot disk for the 2X. Its
creating the system boot disk which is the tricky part, because initially
you would have to have 1 8" drive as drive 0 and the more modern drive as
drive 1 on the same ribbon cable at the same time.
 Perhaps one day I will wake up to a modern CMI 2X storage solution !

Regards,


James Thomson

On 1/7/06 10:04, "pescoyez" <pescoyez@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Dear members
> 
> As I also face some big problems with my drives on a IIx, I wonder
> what can be done. WHo knows about drive replacment sources or
> alternative media connection. Should be great to connect a moder
> disk drive instead of the 8" we have.
> Is the 3"1/2 drive solution available somewhere as a kit?
> Thanks for a reply
> Rgds
> Pascal

Greetings my fellow fairlight users

I just purchased a new fairlight drive with about 10
or so different directorys of sounds. Naturally when
the cmi boots up with a particular directory of
sounds. I'm not be able to load the different
dirctorys so I can go threw and play them all. Could
someone please let me know the commands for loading
different directorys.

thanks
gt

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