Fairlight-CMI

Thanks to James, I discovered this artist. His web site really worth  
a visit !!!

->  http://www.darrenhayes.com/

I loved the Fairlight Lesson they made, really fun !

See you.

      Laurent.

Too keep things organized here I'm in favor for some basic rules:

- No reviews of music or comparisons of musical genres
- being a producer/seller and dissing another producer/sellers

David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent Lemaire <llemaire1@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Dear Laurent,
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't understand why you joined this group ?
> 
> It seems you don't have any Fairlight and not interested
> to understand its technical difference with the technology
> available today.
> 
> If you're only here expecting some Fairlight owners would
> spend some time converting their sounds librairy so you
> can use these sounds on a PC, I'm afraid you're loosing your
> time ...
> 
> No-one would do such a thing. And there's a good reason for
> that. The "confusion" it would create between "a fairlight
> sound" and "the sound of a Fairlight".
> 
> All the "hot" discussion you had with James last WE was
> due to this confusion. James thought you had a Fairlight IIx
> and could not admit that this machine needed a preamp to
> sound powerfull. But it seems you don't own a Fairlight and
> only used this cheap IIx samples audio CD on a sampler which
> explains the behaviour you experienced.
> 
> This kind of confusion is not in the interest of the Fairlight
> enthousiast community. If you are really interested to have
> a machine sounding like a Fairlight IIx, I would suggest you
> find a way to get one. It's not easy but it's doable !
> 
> Best regards.
> 
>     Laurent.
> 
> PS: I don't care if you use picture from my Fairlight  or from
> other people, but please have the honesty to advertise it is
> not yours.
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...>:
> 
> > His music is specially horrible, between RnB and supercommercial
> > cheesy pop.
> > The fairlight didnt seems to help him to get nice sounds
> > Probably you guys can help him and send him some new floppies ?
> > LOL
> >
>

Dear Laurent,

I'm sorry but I don't understand why you joined this group ?

It seems you don't have any Fairlight and not interested
to understand its technical difference with the technology
available today.

If you're only here expecting some Fairlight owners would
spend some time converting their sounds librairy so you
can use these sounds on a PC, I'm afraid you're loosing your
time ...

No-one would do such a thing. And there's a good reason for
that. The "confusion" it would create between "a fairlight
sound" and "the sound of a Fairlight".

All the "hot" discussion you had with James last WE was
due to this confusion. James thought you had a Fairlight IIx
and could not admit that this machine needed a preamp to
sound powerfull. But it seems you don't own a Fairlight and
only used this cheap IIx samples audio CD on a sampler which
explains the behaviour you experienced.

This kind of confusion is not in the interest of the Fairlight
enthousiast community. If you are really interested to have
a machine sounding like a Fairlight IIx, I would suggest you
find a way to get one. It's not easy but it's doable !

Best regards.

    Laurent.

PS: I don't care if you use picture from my Fairlight  or from
other people, but please have the honesty to advertise it is
not yours.



Quoting Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@neuf.fr>:

> His music is specially horrible, between RnB and supercommercial
> cheesy pop.
> The fairlight didnt seems to help him to get nice sounds
> Probably you guys can help him and send him some new floppies ?
> LOL
>

Someone please remove this person from the list, As I
have said before his comments all pointless and this
is getting old. 

Kevin Kelley 
Audio Playground 
www.keyboardmuseum.org

I am sure Laurent/Lifelike will have something nasty
to say about this comment but It will not offer this
group anything worth reading. 


--- Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@neuf.fr> wrote:

> Dear Laurent,
> 
> Thank you for your message. I will do my best.
> Whish you a nice Christmas to you and your living
> Fairlight.
> Have a bath
> Speak soon
> 
> Laurent
> --
> 
> Le 20 déc. 06 à 11:22, Laurent Lemaire a écrit :
> 
> >
> > Dear Laurent,
> >
> > I'm sorry but I don't understand why you joined
> this group ?
> >
> > It seems you don't have any Fairlight and not
> interested
> > to understand its technical difference with the
> technology
> > available today.
> >
> > If you're only here expecting some Fairlight
> owners would
> > spend some time converting their sounds librairy
> so you
> > can use these sounds on a PC, I'm afraid you're
> loosing your
> > time ...
> >
> > No-one would do such a thing. And there's a good
> reason for
> > that. The "confusion" it would create between "a
> fairlight
> > sound" and "the sound of a Fairlight".
> >
> > All the "hot" discussion you had with James last
> WE was
> > due to this confusion. James thought you had a
> Fairlight IIx
> > and could not admit that this machine needed a
> preamp to
> > sound powerfull. But it seems you don't own a
> Fairlight and
> > only used this cheap IIx samples audio CD on a
> sampler which
> > explains the behaviour you experienced.
> >
> > This kind of confusion is not in the interest of
> the Fairlight
> > enthousiast community. If you are really
> interested to have
> > a machine sounding like a Fairlight IIx, I would
> suggest you
> > find a way to get one. It's not easy but it's
> doable !
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Laurent.
> >
> > PS: I don't care if you use picture from my
> Fairlight or from
> > other people, but please have the honesty to
> advertise it is
> > not yours.
> >
> > Quoting Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@neuf.fr>:
> >
> > > His music is specially horrible, between RnB and
> supercommercial
> > > cheesy pop.
> > > The fairlight didnt seems to help him to get
> nice sounds
> > > Probably you guys can help him and send him some
> new floppies ?
> > > LOL
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 


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> I am sure Laurent/Lifelike will have something nasty
> to say about this comment but It will not offer this
> group anything worth reading. 

Six words: please do not feed the trolls :-D

Hi!
I am seriously thinking about getting a fairlight
editing rig instead of my PT HD rig. 
This is mainly something I would use to prepare
sessions for the dub stage, so I do need to be
compatible with pro tools in the end.
Does anyone have any experience with the new fairlight
core system yet?
Can i ultimately export a surround session into pro
tools? Is the transfer transparent enough, or am I
better of sticking to pro tools?

Tobias

Congratulations, someone else escaping from the "pro"tools world.
The great sound is there, so welcome. But you should ask your 
questions here : http://www.fairlightau.com/Forum/

Here, we are the oldies' users: 8/16 tracks and 8/16bit not 
512tracks/24bit lol

Regards

James


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Enhus <tobias@...> wrote:

>
> Hi!
> I am seriously thinking about getting a fairlight
> editing rig instead of my PT HD rig. 
> This is mainly something I would use to prepare
> sessions for the dub stage, so I do need to be
> compatible with pro tools in the end.
> Does anyone have any experience with the new fairlight
> core system yet?
> Can i ultimately export a surround session into pro
> tools? Is the transfer transparent enough, or am I
> better of sticking to pro tools?
> 
> Tobias
>

--- Laurent Lemaire <llemaire1@free.fr> wrote:

> If you're only here expecting some Fairlight owners
> would
> spend some time converting their sounds librairy so
> you
> can use these sounds on a PC, I'm afraid you're
> loosing your
> time ...
> 
> No-one would do such a thing. And there's a good
> reason for
> that. The "confusion" it would create between "a
> fairlight
> sound" and "the sound of a Fairlight".


Well, I suppose I should chime in here at this point.
I'm the proud owner of a fully functional IIx with
MIDI and the (I believe) fully factory library of
discs as well as some "famous people" discs (PG, PSB,
Blue Weaver, AoN, etc.). I'm currently negotiating the
purchase of a v9.34 Series III, also with what I
believe is the full factory library plus some extras. 

I should have this system sometime next month, at
which time I plan on spending many, many hours
converting sounds to a computer based format. I
haven't decided which but I'm leaning toward Kontakt.
I will convert the .vc into .wav files whenever
possible and, when it's not, I'll record them through
some high quality A/Ds I have. I will attempt to
recreate the "program parameters" so that it will
match as closely as possible the IIx or III's original
patch (if you get what I mean).

I will be doing this for my own sake as I'm tired of
losing access to those sounds every time my bloody IIx
has a problem and I have no intention of going through
it as well with my Series III. I didn't buy my
machines for "the fairlight sound" but simply because
I always wanted them growing up and now I'm able to
afford them.

Anyway, my point is, this (admittedly HUGE) process
will take me quite a while as I'll only be doing it in
my spare time. That means anywhere from a few weeks to
a year. :-) But, when I'm finished, I will certainly
provide a disc of my work for free to anyone who wants
it (well, I'll have to charge for shipping and the
disc itself. and you'll have to wait for me to make
you a copy and whatnot). I mean, why not? Since I'm
doing it for myself anyway, I have no problem sharing
the wealth, as they say.

I'm aware of the special sonic properties that the CMI
possesses but I'm also aware that these things were
shaped and molded and modified and reverbed and
overdubbed and filtered and whatnot on all the records
I've heard over the years. So the idea that the public
can tell the difference between a "real" Fairlight and
a sample of one in the context of a song is, IMO, a
bit ridiculous. Of course, everyone's entitled to
their own opinion. That's just mine. I also think
that, as 8-bit samplers go, my Emulator II kicks the
crap out of my IIx, sound-wise. There, I said it. LOL.

I'm glad to be a member of this group and I've learned
quite a bit from the people here. But for those who
would just like to have the Fairlight sounds but can't
stump up that kind of coinage for one, fear not. I
will come to the rescue. I'm just saying it may take a
while, is all. :-)

Laurence

PS. Merry Christmas!!!!! Woo-hoo!





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Hello Laurence , 

Waow ; I sincerely admire your determination to copy an all CMI  
bank .
I wouldn't do it just because of the time it takes ...
But if you feel the courage ,  why not...

I think there's a big difference in using some samples instead of 
being the lucky owner of an original CMI unit...& that's why 
probably I got one ... 
But having a sample is better than having nothing ...& less costly...
If only I could have been happy with only samples ...

You're right , the maintenance aspect is making it worthwhile !!!

& all depends anyway of how you're using your CMI, through what 
sound mixer ...if it's to record just for the pleasure of having one 
directly in one of our affordable audiosequencer ...well ... ; 
having some samples should suffice ...
after if you're using a real mixer with some real preamps & all the 
artillery behind (not a mackie or a berhinger !!!), then you should 
notice that the IIx is giving so much more ...
So speaking about all that is so much subjective ... 

I don't know yet about the EMU II, but it surely sounds very nice 
too ...
I presume they don't have the same qualities anyway ...but they play 
on the same ground !
the fact is I'd like to check one EMULATOR II soon...

A very nice grainy sound anyway !!!...

So Good Luck for all these fture hours of sampling ...
just tell us how it goes & if it's as good as expected !

Best Wishes for the upcoming year,
Patrice.




--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurence Shields 
<mercybox@...> wrote:

>
> 
> --- Laurent Lemaire <llemaire1@...> wrote:
> 
> > If you're only here expecting some Fairlight owners
> > would
> > spend some time converting their sounds librairy so
> > you
> > can use these sounds on a PC, I'm afraid you're
> > loosing your
> > time ...
> > 
> > No-one would do such a thing. And there's a good
> > reason for
> > that. The "confusion" it would create between "a
> > fairlight
> > sound" and "the sound of a Fairlight".
> 
> 
> Well, I suppose I should chime in here at this point.
> I'm the proud owner of a fully functional IIx with
> MIDI and the (I believe) fully factory library of
> discs as well as some "famous people" discs (PG, PSB,
> Blue Weaver, AoN, etc.). I'm currently negotiating the
> purchase of a v9.34 Series III, also with what I
> believe is the full factory library plus some extras. 
> 
> I should have this system sometime next month, at
> which time I plan on spending many, many hours
> converting sounds to a computer based format. I
> haven't decided which but I'm leaning toward Kontakt.
> I will convert the .vc into .wav files whenever
> possible and, when it's not, I'll record them through
> some high quality A/Ds I have. I will attempt to
> recreate the "program parameters" so that it will
> match as closely as possible the IIx or III's original
> patch (if you get what I mean).
> 
> I will be doing this for my own sake as I'm tired of
> losing access to those sounds every time my bloody IIx
> has a problem and I have no intention of going through
> it as well with my Series III. I didn't buy my
> machines for "the fairlight sound" but simply because
> I always wanted them growing up and now I'm able to
> afford them.
> 
> Anyway, my point is, this (admittedly HUGE) process
> will take me quite a while as I'll only be doing it in
> my spare time. That means anywhere from a few weeks to
> a year. :-) But, when I'm finished, I will certainly
> provide a disc of my work for free to anyone who wants
> it (well, I'll have to charge for shipping and the
> disc itself. and you'll have to wait for me to make
> you a copy and whatnot). I mean, why not? Since I'm
> doing it for myself anyway, I have no problem sharing
> the wealth, as they say.
> 
> I'm aware of the special sonic properties that the CMI
> possesses but I'm also aware that these things were
> shaped and molded and modified and reverbed and
> overdubbed and filtered and whatnot on all the records
> I've heard over the years. So the idea that the public
> can tell the difference between a "real" Fairlight and
> a sample of one in the context of a song is, IMO, a
> bit ridiculous. Of course, everyone's entitled to
> their own opinion. That's just mine. I also think
> that, as 8-bit samplers go, my Emulator II kicks the
> crap out of my IIx, sound-wise. There, I said it. LOL.
> 
> I'm glad to be a member of this group and I've learned
> quite a bit from the people here. But for those who
> would just like to have the Fairlight sounds but can't
> stump up that kind of coinage for one, fear not. I
> will come to the rescue. I'm just saying it may take a
> while, is all. :-)
> 
> Laurence
> 
> PS. Merry Christmas!!!!! Woo-hoo!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On 25/12/06 10:19, Laurence Shields wrote:

> I'm the proud owner of a fully functional IIx with
> MIDI and the (I believe) fully factory library
     (snip)
> I will convert the .vc into .wav files whenever
> possible 


> when I'm finished, I will certainly
> provide a disc of my work for free to anyone who wants
> it (well, I'll have to charge for shipping and the
> disc itself. and you'll have to wait for me to make
> you a copy and whatnot).

What a wonderful gesture in the spirit of Christmas!
I look forward to your finished project. Good luck, and be sure to post 
a message when you're done!


Hallvard

I'm actually planning to do more or less the same to get the sounds on 
my MV8000. Laurence, how would you get the VC's for 8" to your 
computer? 

Cheers,
Patrick