Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Ferric Chloride etching questions...
2005-09-07 by Stefan Trethan
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:57:41 +0200, lcdpublishing ... seems about right. watch those stains!! if you mix it fresh before your first etch you can use the heat
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2005-09-07 by Stefan Trethan
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:57:41 +0200, lcdpublishing ... seems about right. watch those stains!! if you mix it fresh before your first etch you can use the heat
2005-09-07 by lcdpublishing
Okay, I am about to take my first real etching tank for a test drive today. There are a number of Firsts in this for me. 1) I am working with the powder,
2005-09-06 by Phil
... coating ... The other way around - etch time affects pinholing. Shorter time, less pinholing. At least that s what I have noticed. It may have to do with
2005-09-06 by Adam Seychell
... yep, and each of us has a preferred choice on what system to use. ... As I understand the pinholes are just small voids in the toner coating the copper.
2005-09-06 by Phil
... wrote: ... don t ... My tank has a 1 L capacity so it doesn t take very long to heat up with a hacked aquarium heater. I d estimate 20-30 mins depending
2005-09-06 by Phil
... Put it in a jar, place jar on hotplate on low and let it evaporate down to a pretty blue mass of crystals. Dump crystals into a storage jar and then take
2005-09-06 by lcdpublishing
Sounds like the one I got - I will give it a try. Thanks! Chris ... it ... didn t ... would hold ... a shaft ... one of
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:35:44 +0200, lcdpublishing ... I tried a blue round one that came with my pump, and that one didn t dissolve during 2 weeks or so. As it
2005-09-06 by lcdpublishing
Hi Stan, Do you remember what color the bubbler stones were and how long it took for them to dissolve? Chris ... mine! ... good ... that ... on
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:58:12 +0200, Adam Seychell ... You can get a hydrometer for that range in the car parts store. Simply get the meter for battery acid.
2005-09-06 by Adam Seychell
... If the sun is shining outside, then put it in a plastic tray and let it evaporate for a few days. Thats what I did. Unfortunately you ll have to invest
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
... yea, but still, what do you do with it when the AP is spent? ST
2005-09-06 by Adam Seychell
... Yes, the more copper the faster, and the more acid the faster. You are only limited by solubility, and HCl fuming. A good compromise I found is to run at
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 04:44:54 +0200, microprose21 ... other than the 10 mil holes there shouldn t be problems. Of course you don t get
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
... Apparently now it finally came through Craig ;-) yahoo is a right nuisance sometimes.. ST
2005-09-06 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 05:46:55 +0200, Adam Seychell ... i agree, you need a strong solution to do air-regeneration. For H2O2, anything works, but as it grows
2005-09-06 by Leon Heller
... From: Phil To: Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Regenerating
2005-09-06 by Phil
I never got anything close to 9 minute etches with cucl. Probably too weak. Dull green was more like olive drab. By the way, I just added a new heater to my
2005-09-06 by Adam Seychell
Dull green is ok, only when it becomes brown is the problem. If you dilute a bit of it and it turns bright green then its pretty much regenerated. But, this
2005-09-06 by Phil
I may not have all the specifics right - it was about 6 months ago but I did add 50 mL of 30% HCl and then aerated. It stayed a dull green, even after a week
2005-09-06 by Adam Seychell
Are you sure you added enough acid *before* aerating ? How do you know what the acid concentration was after aerating ? I find it hard to believe it wouldn t
2005-09-06 by Phil
I tried to use CuCl over a period of 4 months. I was never able to regenerate it using a bubbler - even left it running for a week once. I added more acid but
2005-09-05 by Steve
Those look like they are just regular vinyl sign cutters. Check out the Links on the signmaker list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/signmaker Steve Greenfield
2005-09-05 by microsoftwarecontrol
for cleaning, the best way found is: 1: to merge into etchant, 10 sec. 2: sand paper to wipe off discolored. 3: to keep merging under water before using it.
2005-09-05 by Phil
arrggghhh.... sorry about that folks. Staples. I originally had it in the subject but thought it didn t look right so i took it out but didn t reread the
2005-09-05 by Stefan Trethan
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:51:15 +0200, patroclus04 ... I ll too write up quickly how i clean boards, again: 1) sand lightly with 600 to
2005-09-05 by patroclus04
thank you. I ll try ink jet paper, and try to clean the board better, though I alredy used acetone.
2005-09-05 by vk2zcm
A Photocopier fuser unit rebuilt works well for me thanks to ST I use Matt inkjet paper in a laser printer But I have found that the board has to be really
2005-09-05 by Norm Stewart
... Phil - Who has it on sale? And where in Seattle are you? I m ~80 miles north near Concrete, on the Skagit River. Norm
2005-09-05 by Phil
I don t know if this is national or just local to seattle but the GBC H300 laminator is on sale for 79.94 (lists for 179.99). I have the H200 and it was easy
2005-09-04 by microprose21
I ve been making PCB s for quite some time for projects at work. I use Protel. Whenever I had to make a PCB for myself, I would always go with $33 special
2005-09-03 by Patrick Murphy
Hi patroclus04, ... You might try TinyCAD to draw the schematic, FreePCB to create the PCB, and a freeware Gerber viewer to print it. I like these programs but
2005-09-03 by vk2zcm
-A Photocopier fuser unit rebuilt works well for me thanks to ST I use Matt inkjet paper in a laser printer But I have found that the board has to be really
2005-09-02 by thespeakerguy
... was If you are still looking for a sample let me know the speaker guy at yahoo dot com
2005-09-02 by Phil
... board yet. ... results?? ... happend?? ... It s harder to get uniform pressure/temperature with an iron but not impossible. Just take better care.
2005-09-02 by vk2zcm
... From: Stefan Trethan To: Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] I
2005-09-02 by Stefan Trethan
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:51:12 +0200, patroclus04 ... use a laminatoror fuser, it produces more consistent results. Also you should try
2005-09-02 by patroclus04
I tried twice the tonner paper method, using magazine paper, and iron. the image transfers to copper really good in some regions (awesome), but not in others,
2005-09-02 by Adam Seychell
... Many factors involved, it could be 15 minutes or 2 days. Obviously the more air that contacts the solution the quicker all the Cu(1+) converts to Cu(2+).
2005-09-02 by Stefan Trethan
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:07:31 +0200, johnwhitneyfiat ... I personally never tried it, but i would say many hours, perhaps days. My tank volume isn t that large,
2005-09-02 by stan4312
You might want to test the chunks for compatability with your etchant too, the HCl I m using to brew CuCl just disintigrated mine! Stan ... for ... also ...
2005-09-02 by stan4312
I m attempting to bootstrap my first batch of CuCl as I type, so this page is fresh off my bookmarks: http://pacificsun.ca/~robert/pcb/cucl.htm Pretty good
2005-09-02 by johnwhitneyfiat
I have been off the group for a while and I m sure this was covered. In the direction for making etchant from Hydrogen Peroxide and Muratic Acid, it says that
2005-09-01 by stan4312
... I haven t had any luck looking through the files or Googling up any specifics on the process though. If someone could provide details, I d certainly
2005-09-01 by Stefan Trethan
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:27:29 +0200, lcdpublishing ... I use a bubbler hose. It is kind of a hose made of foam rubber with holes punched in one side. It makes
2005-09-01 by lcdpublishing
I picked up a fish tank pump and a container that should be good for my first etching tank. When I picked up the fish tank pump, I also noticed they had these
2005-09-01 by Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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2005-08-30 by mikezcnc
Thank you Steve! Mike ... results ... are ... be ... sort ... ... boards. ...
2005-08-29 by Bob_xyz
From their site, it seems that the cutting machines themselves are only available for sale to educational institutions and, beyond that, only to ones that are
2005-08-29 by Steve
... Not too bad. http://www.techsoftuk.co.uk/ 130 pounds for a roll 55m long and 200mm wide, or 10 sheets 300x200mm for 10 pounds. Shipping could be a bit.