Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hello all,

I've just been looking at upgrading to 7.2. But looking at the comments on the Apple web 
site it looks like lots of people are finding Logic a bit buggy. I have to say that I tend to 
agree with this view. I use Pro-tools professionally in a post-production environment all 
the time and have found it to be very stable, with a bit of data t.l.c.  I would dread using 
Logic professionally as it is terribly shakey. I did one compostition job on Logic recently 
for a corporate client and it was a very seat of the pants session (would Logic play all of 
the instruments all of the time kind of thing). My views do seem to be echoed by other 
users with lots of people saying the Pro bit of the name should be taken off. I'm very 
disappointed that this paid upgrade hasn't settled the software down. Surely Apple must 
read posts on their own website, and hopefully these message boards as well, and if they 
do aren't they ever going to stabilize Logic.

I'm I alone in thinking this? Does your Logic crash or is it perfectly stable? If so what are 
you doing that I'm not? I'd really like to know.

If anyone has any comments it would be great to hear them.

I love Logic and I'd love to use in my professional work, but if a piece of software crashes 
or misbehaves more than once a day, it isn't making it into my studio.

cheers

DM

My Logic Pro is perfectly stable. I use it every day, in a  
professional setting, as do many others around the world. The only  
time it crashes is when I use (and abuse!) very CPU-hungry,  
experimental software (which I love, btw) like NI's Reaktor, or Beta  
software that I'm testing. But that's usually a good sign, as it  
signals that I'm at the bleeding edge of music technology, where I  
like to skate! Again, if you use the built-in synths, sampler and fx,  
and/or dozens of proven, legit plug-ins, you will find Logic very  
stable.

Ned


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Interesting. What hardware do you use? What is your set up?
I've used Logic for years, love the programme but I couldn't call it  
stable :(

At the moment, with a Macbook Pro & and a RME Fireface 800, Logic  
easily crashes at least once a day, and this is without any third  
party software.

Patrick

On Aug 26, 2006, at 9:43 PM, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

> My Logic Pro is perfectly stable. I use it every day, in a
> professional setting, as do many others around the world. The only
> time it crashes is when I use (and abuse!) very CPU-hungry,
> experimental software (which I love, btw) like NI's Reaktor, or Beta
> software that I'm testing. But that's usually a good sign, as it
> signals that I'm at the bleeding edge of music technology, where I
> like to skate! Again, if you use the built-in synths, sampler and fx,
> and/or dozens of proven, legit plug-ins, you will find Logic very
> stable.
>
> Ned
>
> ___ Ned Bouhalassa ___
> > > http://nedfx.com < <
> ::::: ned@... ::::
>
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>
>
> 



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In a message dated 8/26/06 11:38:30 AM, howard.bargroff@... writes:

> looking at the comments on the Apple web
> site it looks like lots of people are finding Logic a bit buggy. I have to 
> say that I tend to
> agree with this view.
> 

And keep in mind that Apple censors those comments. They freely admit to a 
policy of deleting messages which they deem to be too critical.

It seems like I go through spells of stability and instability with no clue 
as to what causes the change. One thing that seems to cause a lot of crashes is 
using a lot of plugs and virtual instruments - instead of getting audio 
warnings, just bam it dies.

One thing you can do, is to create a new autoload file from scratch - in case 
there is corruptin in your autoload, then it gets into every new song. Create 
a new tempate (perhaps by renaming the existing ones), then copy things over 
part by part. 

And of course, there is the option of creating a new boot disk, re-install 
Logic, and leave out anything that is not absolutely necessary. I check all demo 
software in Garageband on a different mac .


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I'm using LP7.2 on a Dual G5 w/ a MOTU 24io and on my PowerBook G4  
15" w/ an MIO 2882+DSP and I find both configs to be pretty stable,  
not as stable as PT, but a lot more stable than DP 4 or 5.

My problems are minor: the most annoying thing is that when I'm using  
the Punch On The Fly, it'll work fine for a while but then it will  
stop passing audio to the track; i.e. there's meter movement  
indicating the hardware is OK and Logic keeps rolling but the track  
is blank- no audio, no waveform. I use the auto drop as a workaround  
but it's annoying. I haven't had the kind of crippling problems that  
some LP7x users have experienced.

I have used LP7 almost every day for the last 2+ years. Based on my  
experience, rebuilding the autoload song is a good idea. If your  
autoload song is corrupt, then it will corrupt every single session  
that you create with it. Another thing that helps is RAM. Get as much  
RAM as you can. Logic and Mac OS 10.x LOVE RAM.

RAM can be corrupt, too. Just because your computer works fine w/ all  
the other apps doesn't mean that it's Logic's fault. LP puts high  
demands on your computer. Apple make a hardware tester. So do a lot  
of 3rd party vendors. Get one and check your RAM, etc.

-John