Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

>
>
>
> Hi, all -- glad to be back in the Logic world. I was a PC Logic  
> user from version 3.5 to 5.5.1 -- and I just bought a MacBook Pro.  
> So I'm trying to figure out how to best get up and running.
>
> So a couple questions --
>
> (1) Does anyone have a copy of the last version that would run with  
> the XS Key (I assume 5.5.1)? Assuming there are no incompatibility  
> issues with the Intel Duo core Macs, that would seem to be be the  
> quickest, cheapest way to get a Logic platform up and running.
>
> I have an XS Key that works fine with the PC version, and I have  
> Mac codes that were given to me at the time of the Apple takeover.
>
> (2) Does anyone have an Apple key for sale, for any version beyond  
> 5 -- which I could then use to upgrade?
>
> thanks,
> Skip
>
>
>

There was an upgrade to Logic 6 then Logic 7 then 7.1 then 7.2. However, you 
can probably get one upgrade from 5 to 7.2. You should contact apple for that 
probably. The dongle is not a trivial thing, its the value of the program 
which is about $1000 now. So to sell it, is to sell Logic.



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I did call Apple, and at least the lower-level sales guy I spoke to  
said that they were replacing the keys up until January 2006. Now he  
says I have to pay the full price. I'd sure like to explore some  
other options....

Skip



On Jul 19, 2007, at 5:58 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> There was an upgrade to Logic 6 then Logic 7 then 7.1 then 7.2.  
> However, you
> can probably get one upgrade from 5 to 7.2. You should contact  
> apple for that
> probably. The dongle is not a trivial thing, its the value of the  
> program
> which is about $1000 now. So to sell it, is to sell Logic.
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I think you get a new key when you upgrade. I think I got with Logic 6 which 
worked for Logic 7 if I recall correctly. 



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I have had the same key since I got the first one at Logic 5 or 5.5.  I
have the very ugly blue one...  J  but it does work! 

 

Paul

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I think you get a new key when you upgrade. I think I got with Logic 6
which 
worked for Logic 7 if I recall correctly. 

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Paul Stephenson wrote:
> I have had the same key since I got the first one at Logic 5 or 5.5.  I
> have the very ugly blue one...  J  but it does work! 
> 
>  

Same here. I THINK (dont quote my last two brain cells) Apple simply 
stopped supporting the blue keys if you hadnt yet upgraded to 7 by the 
date they announced. Meaning anyone asking after that date would pretty 
much have to buy a new full license to get Logic.

I cant remember exactly what Apple stated about it, but Markus 
(Emagic/Apple/SoundDiver Wiz) came on OSXAudio.com at the time and 
clarified it, that those of us with blue keys that had in fact already 
upgraded to 7 would be in the clear but anyone that hadnt yet was SOL. 
There were alot of us freaking out about it and thankfully he popped in 
to clear up the confusion.


-- 
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http://www.myspace.com/monotremata
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F Stuart Leeds wrote:
> I did call Apple, and at least the lower-level sales guy I spoke to  
> said that they were replacing the keys up until January 2006. Now he  
> says I have to pay the full price. I'd sure like to explore some  
> other options....
> 
> Skip

Ok actually this is kinda making things a bit clearer in my head as to 
what was said.. I believe how Markus explained it, if your key BROKE 
after Jan 2006 and you hadnt upgraded to 7 yet, you were screwed.. If 
your had upgraded though, you were in the clear and were still covered. 
At the time though, you could still get an upgrade from the older 
versions to 7. Im not sure whether theyre still offering an upgrade from 
5/6 -> 7 nowadays though so this may be why theyre telling you to get a 
new license. If they do in fact have an upgrade path still, youre in the 
clear, all you have to do is put in the license key and your XSKey will 
be activated for Logic Pro. Thats all the rest of us had to do. Those 
sales reps can be a little retarded at times to say the least..

Id call em back and specifically ask if there is still the upgrade from 
Logic 5.5 to 7 Pro and perhaps theyll read that part of their little 
canned answer sheet back to you instead hehe.

-- 
Chris

http://www.monotrematamusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/monotremata
http://www.descentrecords.com

OK, so can anyone help me find a Mac version of 5.5.1? I have the Win  
version, and I have something that says it's a Mac/Windows hybrid,  
but I'm having trouble getting it to install.

Anyone have a Mac version 5 they could link to me?

thanks,
Skip




On Jul 19, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Chris Coccia wrote:

> F Stuart Leeds wrote:
> > I did call Apple, and at least the lower-level sales guy I spoke to
> > said that they were replacing the keys up until January 2006. Now he
> > says I have to pay the full price. I'd sure like to explore some
> > other options....
> >
> > Skip
>
> Ok actually this is kinda making things a bit clearer in my head as to
> what was said.. I believe how Markus explained it, if your key BROKE
> after Jan 2006 and you hadnt upgraded to 7 yet, you were screwed.. If
> your had upgraded though, you were in the clear and were still  
> covered.
> At the time though, you could still get an upgrade from the older
> versions to 7. Im not sure whether theyre still offering an upgrade  
> from
> 5/6 -> 7 nowadays though so this may be why theyre telling you to  
> get a
> new license. If they do in fact have an upgrade path still, youre  
> in the
> clear, all you have to do is put in the license key and your XSKey  
> will
> be activated for Logic Pro. Thats all the rest of us had to do. Those
> sales reps can be a little retarded at times to say the least..
>
> Id call em back and specifically ask if there is still the upgrade  
> from
> Logic 5.5 to 7 Pro and perhaps theyll read that part of their little
> canned answer sheet back to you instead hehe.
>
> -- 
> Chris
>
> http://www.monotrematamusic.com
> http://www.myspace.com/monotremata
> http://www.descentrecords.com
>
> 



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oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or  
did that not happen until Logic 6?

Skip


On Jul 19, 2007, at 7:18 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> OK, so can anyone help me find a Mac version of 5.5.1? I have the Win
> version, and I have something that says it's a Mac/Windows hybrid,
> but I'm having trouble getting it to install.
>
> Anyone have a Mac version 5 they could link to me?
>
> thanks,
> Skip
>
> On Jul 19, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Chris Coccia wrote:
>
> > F Stuart Leeds wrote:
> > > I did call Apple, and at least the lower-level sales guy I  
> spoke to
> > > said that they were replacing the keys up until January 2006.  
> Now he
> > > says I have to pay the full price. I'd sure like to explore some
> > > other options....
> > >
> > > Skip
> >
> > Ok actually this is kinda making things a bit clearer in my head  
> as to
> > what was said.. I believe how Markus explained it, if your key BROKE
> > after Jan 2006 and you hadnt upgraded to 7 yet, you were  
> screwed.. If
> > your had upgraded though, you were in the clear and were still
> > covered.
> > At the time though, you could still get an upgrade from the older
> > versions to 7. Im not sure whether theyre still offering an upgrade
> > from
> > 5/6 -> 7 nowadays though so this may be why theyre telling you to
> > get a
> > new license. If they do in fact have an upgrade path still, youre
> > in the
> > clear, all you have to do is put in the license key and your XSKey
> > will
> > be activated for Logic Pro. Thats all the rest of us had to do.  
> Those
> > sales reps can be a little retarded at times to say the least..
> >
> > Id call em back and specifically ask if there is still the upgrade
> > from
> > Logic 5.5 to 7 Pro and perhaps theyll read that part of their little
> > canned answer sheet back to you instead hehe.
> >
> > --
> > Chris
> >
> > http://www.monotrematamusic.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/monotremata
> > http://www.descentrecords.com
> >
> >
>
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On Jul 19, 2007, at 4:25 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or
> did that not happen until Logic 6?
>
> Skip
>

Your Logic 5 cd should be hybrid just as mine were, and should have  
no trouble installing on a PowerPC Macintosh.

5.5 I believe was the first to run under OS 10.2 (cant remember if  
this version carried over to 10.3 or not).
6 runs under 10.3 and somewhat half ass under 10.4. Im also talking  
about the PowerPC versions of the OS.
Youre using a brand new Intel Macbook. Logic 5 is not a Universal  
Binary application, this wasnt even around when 5,6 and 7 were  
initially released.

  If you can even get 5 to install under OS 10.4, its probably not  
going to play very nice with all of the CoreAudio changes that have  
happened in the 5 years or so since its release. OS X has come quite  
a loooooooooooong way since then.

Last bit,  Logic 5/6/7 were heavily optimized for the PPC Altivec  
instruction set. Right away this means Logic is not going to run  
under Rosetta on your new Macbook. Its going to run rather slow if it  
does at all work (cant remember if you can turn off the Altivec  
optimization or not), and the minute it hits a piece of altivec code,  
its going to crash and burn.

You need to start looking for an upgrade path to 7 if you plan on  
moving forward with your brand new MacBook..

---
Chris
www.monotrematamusic.com
www.descentrecords.com

Thanks,  Chris....that really clarifies things...and explains why I  
can't get this Vsn. 5 installed and running at all.

I need to go talk nice to the Apple folks. Any names you guys can  
drop, that will help me get through the red tape:?

Oh,yeah,  and one other question...Chris, you aren't the standup guy  
from Philly, are you? 'Cause you're very funny if you are :)

Skip

On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Chris Coccia wrote:

>
> On Jul 19, 2007, at 4:25 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:
>
> > oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or
> > did that not happen until Logic 6?
> >
> > Skip
> >
>
> Your Logic 5 cd should be hybrid just as mine were, and should have
> no trouble installing on a PowerPC Macintosh.
>
> 5.5 I believe was the first to run under OS 10.2 (cant remember if
> this version carried over to 10.3 or not).
> 6 runs under 10.3 and somewhat half ass under 10.4. Im also talking
> about the PowerPC versions of the OS.
> Youre using a brand new Intel Macbook. Logic 5 is not a Universal
> Binary application, this wasnt even around when 5,6 and 7 were
> initially released.
>
> If you can even get 5 to install under OS 10.4, its probably not
> going to play very nice with all of the CoreAudio changes that have
> happened in the 5 years or so since its release. OS X has come quite
> a loooooooooooong way since then.
>
> Last bit, Logic 5/6/7 were heavily optimized for the PPC Altivec
> instruction set. Right away this means Logic is not going to run
> under Rosetta on your new Macbook. Its going to run rather slow if it
> does at all work (cant remember if you can turn off the Altivec
> optimization or not), and the minute it hits a piece of altivec code,
> its going to crash and burn.
>
> You need to start looking for an upgrade path to 7 if you plan on
> moving forward with your brand new MacBook..
>
> ---
> Chris
> www.monotrematamusic.com
> www.descentrecords.com
>
>
> 



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On Jul 19, 2007, at 6:09 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> Thanks,  Chris....that really clarifies things...and explains why I
> can't get this Vsn. 5 installed and running at all.
>
> I need to go talk nice to the Apple folks. Any names you guys can
> drop, that will help me get through the red tape:?
>
> Oh,yeah,  and one other question...Chris, you aren't the standup guy
> from Philly, are you? 'Cause you're very funny if you are :)
>
> Skip
>


I wish! But no and it really makes me mad how he gets like the first  
couple of pages on Google when you look up my name haha!
I think hes somewhere along my family tree actually as my dad's side  
was originally born there and still have plenty of family back there  
but never did bother looking into it.
The Dead Milkmen had a guy named Chris Coccia they used to thank for  
photos and stuff all the time in their cd's I wonder if thats him too  
heh.

Good luck on the hunt with Apple. I honestly dont think any  
namedropping, at least with the grunts youll deal with on the phone  
will help. I bet most of them are off site in a call center reading  
scripted database answers.

---
Chris
www.monotrematamusic.com
www.descentrecords.com

> oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or
> did that not happen until Logic 6?

5.4 was the first OS X compatible version. Having said that, the lowest
version you can run on your McIntel is 7.2, 7.1 will launch, but will work
via Rosetta, I.E. Veeeeery slooooooowwwww, no good for any serious audio
work. I guess I'd bite the bullet and buy Logic 7 (it would cost you much
more than thousand bucks if you upgraded incrementally anyway). Just my
$0.02.

Best,

Andy

WHAT??

Are you kidding me? With all the crap I've/we've been through with  
Logic's compatibility and stability issues over these many years, and  
now I go I finally break down, put out and buy a state-of-the-art Mac  
so I can run the software that betrayed me when I was a Win user in  
2003...

AND now you tell me they just managed to come up with a version that  
will marginally run on the latest Apple hardware? How long before  
Logic Pro will run *reliably* on my MacBook?

This just strikes me as insane. So I should have bought a G5, huh?   
Now, I have to spend $1000 on software that will eventually run on my  
laptop, if I let Apple experiment long enough.

Maybe Cubase will be cheaper and more reliable, after all. I just  
can't believe I bought a Mac so I could use Logic again, and it's  
like it's 1999!

Am I missing something here?

Skip
On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote:

> > oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or
> > did that not happen until Logic 6?
>
> 5.4 was the first OS X compatible version. Having said that, the  
> lowest
> version you can run on your McIntel is 7.2, 7.1 will launch, but  
> will work
> via Rosetta, I.E. Veeeeery slooooooowwwww, no good for any serious  
> audio
> work. I guess I'd bite the bullet and buy Logic 7 (it would cost  
> you much
> more than thousand bucks if you upgraded incrementally anyway).  
> Just my
> $0.02.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
>
> 



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> . Im not sure whether theyre still offering an upgrade from
> 5/6 -> 7 nowadays though so this may be why theyre telling you to  
> get a
> new license. If they do in fact have an upgrade path still, youre  
> in the
> clear, all you have to do is put in the license key and your XSKey  
> will
> be activated for Logic Pro. Thats all the rest of us had to do.

Yes there is an upgrade path from 5 to 7. I just upgraded my old PC  
software & XSKey from 5 to 7
with the old key.
> Those
> sales reps can be a little retarded at times to say the least..
>
>
I bought the upgrade from the apple site, I saw the upgrade box at  
the apple store too.
so no sales canned questions for me (thank you e-commerce!)
Did have the new code not be accepted by the XSKey website  
authorization,
Got the authorization code to tick within Logic when you select  
"XSKey manager (or something like that)
enter the codes there.
I think the site authorization area is not working correctly with the  
old keys (just a guess)
Go for it,
L7 is still a very cool jump from L5.
Best luck,
Ciao
Gio

On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:46 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> WHAT??
>
> Are you kidding me? With all the crap I've/we've been through with
> Logic's compatibility and stability issues over these many years, and
> now I go I finally break down, put out and buy a state-of-the-art Mac
> so I can run the software that betrayed me when I was a Win user in
> 2003...
>
> AND now you tell me they just managed to come up with a version that
> will marginally run on the latest Apple hardware? How long before
> Logic Pro will run *reliably* on my MacBook?
>
> This just strikes me as insane. So I should have bought a G5, huh?
> Now, I have to spend $1000 on software that will eventually run on my
> laptop, if I let Apple experiment long enough.
>
> Maybe Cubase will be cheaper and more reliable, after all. I just
> can't believe I bought a Mac so I could use Logic again, and it's
> like it's 1999!
>
> Am I missing something here?

You are :-) . Logic has been completely rewritten in order to work  
with an Intel based Mac. 7.1 and below are PPC only versions, so  
those are not supposed to run on your machine. It's up to you to  
decide, but I would at least give it another chance. Someone else has  
just said you still can upgrade, so google around.

Best,

Andy

So, Gio, all I need is an authorized key -- I don't have to have the  
old software installed on my machine?

I have a blue XS-KEY authorized for both Mac and Win 5.5.1. That will  
work?

Skip


On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Gio wrote:

> > . Im not sure whether theyre still offering an upgrade from
> > 5/6 -> 7 nowadays though so this may be why theyre telling you to
> > get a
> > new license. If they do in fact have an upgrade path still, youre
> > in the
> > clear, all you have to do is put in the license key and your XSKey
> > will
> > be activated for Logic Pro. Thats all the rest of us had to do.
>
> Yes there is an upgrade path from 5 to 7. I just upgraded my old PC
> software & XSKey from 5 to 7
> with the old key.
> > Those
> > sales reps can be a little retarded at times to say the least..
> >
> >
> I bought the upgrade from the apple site, I saw the upgrade box at
> the apple store too.
> so no sales canned questions for me (thank you e-commerce!)
> Did have the new code not be accepted by the XSKey website
> authorization,
> Got the authorization code to tick within Logic when you select
> "XSKey manager (or something like that)
> enter the codes there.
> I think the site authorization area is not working correctly with the
> old keys (just a guess)
> Go for it,
> L7 is still a very cool jump from L5.
> Best luck,
> Ciao
> Gio
>
>
> 



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On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:07 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> So, Gio, all I need is an authorized key -- I don't have to have the
> old software installed on my machine?
>
> I have a blue XS-KEY authorized for both Mac and Win 5.5.1. That will
> work?
>
> Skip
>

Once you upgrade to 7.x.x youll get the box, software discs, and the  
new authorization codes.
Load them up, authorize your key, and start rocking.
You'll really dig all the new plugs/architecture.
Ciao
Gio

OK, I'm in! Thanks for your help, guys!

Skip

On Jul 20, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Gio wrote:

>
> On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:07 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:
>
> > So, Gio, all I need is an authorized key -- I don't have to have the
> > old software installed on my machine?
> >
> > I have a blue XS-KEY authorized for both Mac and Win 5.5.1. That  
> will
> > work?
> >
> > Skip
> >
>
> Once you upgrade to 7.x.x youll get the box, software discs, and the
> new authorization codes.
> Load them up, authorize your key, and start rocking.
> You'll really dig all the new plugs/architecture.
> Ciao
> Gio
>
>
> 



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On Jul 19, 2007, at 9:07 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> So, Gio, all I need is an authorized key -- I don't have to have the
> old software installed on my machine?

You don't, neither can you install it on your McIntel. The license is  
in your XSKey, not in the software or somewhere on your machine. You  
can take your XSKey with you to any studio and work there using your  
license.

Best,

Andy

On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:07 PM, F Stuart Leeds wrote:

> So, Gio, all I need is an authorized key -- I don't have to have the
> old software installed on my machine?
>
> I have a blue XS-KEY authorized for both Mac and Win 5.5.1. That will
> work?
>
> Skip
>


Ooops forgot to send you the upgrade path link
Here it is:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/BizCustom? 
qprm=78313&productLearnMore=MA331Z/A

Ciao
Gio

On 7/19/07, F Stuart Leeds <skip@...> wrote:

>  I need to go talk nice to the Apple folks. Any names you guys can
>  drop, that will help me get through the red tape:?

I don't think you can get any help, sorry, 5.x is a very old product,
unsupported now.

--Kent

In a message dated 7/19/07 8:48:24 PM, skip@... writes:


> WHAT??
> 
> Are you kidding me? With all the crap I've/we've been through with
> Logic's compatibility and stability issues over these many years, and
> now I go I finally break down, put out and buy a state-of-the- now I go
> so I can run the software that betrayed me when I was a Win user in
> 2003...
> 
> AND now you tell me they just managed to come up with a version that
> will marginally run on the latest Apple hardware? How long before
> Logic Pro will run *reliably* on my MacBook?
> 
> This just strikes me as insane. So I should have bought a G5, huh?
> Now, I have to spend $1000 on software that will eventually run on my
> laptop, if I let Apple experiment long enough.
> 
> Maybe Cubase will be cheaper and more reliable, after all. I just
> can't believe I bought a Mac so I could use Logic again, and it's
> like it's 1999!
> 
> Am I missing something here?
> 

If you are strapped for cash, why don't you get Logic Express. Its actually 
pretty full featured. And I think its $300 full price or $150 academic. I doubt 
that things are going to be better with other programs. They all have their 
ups and downs. And these markets are so big, these companies don't really care 
if you jump ship - so you probably aught to stick with Logic for compatibility 
with your older songs, and your familiarity with Logic's learning curve.

I would never expec software from a few years ago to run on a new computer. 
Recently when Apple upgraded to 10.4.9 or 10.4.10, some plugs like Ohmforce and 
Waves went out. So even minor system updates can knock things out. (However, 
I was running Wordperfect in classic mode up until a few months ago - amazing 
that code not updated since 1996 still runs - but its the exception).

As some other people have pointed out, Mac went from (IBM) G5's to Intel 
chips - a completely different architecture which caused whole sale re-writes for 
all software. You can also probably pickup a used G5 pretty cheap these days, 
and take back or sell the intel mac if you really want to go that way.





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Nuff said

Mike

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, F Stuart Leeds <skip@...> wrote:

>
> WHAT??
> 
> Are you kidding me? With all the crap I've/we've been through with  
> Logic's compatibility and stability issues over these many years, and  
> now I go I finally break down, put out and buy a state-of-the-art Mac  
> so I can run the software that betrayed me when I was a Win user in  
> 2003...
> 
> AND now you tell me they just managed to come up with a version that  
> will marginally run on the latest Apple hardware? How long before  
> Logic Pro will run *reliably* on my MacBook?
> 
> This just strikes me as insane. So I should have bought a G5, huh?   
> Now, I have to spend $1000 on software that will eventually run on my  
> laptop, if I let Apple experiment long enough.
> 
> Maybe Cubase will be cheaper and more reliable, after all. I just  
> can't believe I bought a Mac so I could use Logic again, and it's  
> like it's 1999!
> 
> Am I missing something here?
> 
> Skip
> On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote:
> 
> > > oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under OS X? Or
> > > did that not happen until Logic 6?
> >
> > 5.4 was the first OS X compatible version. Having said that, the  
> > lowest
> > version you can run on your McIntel is 7.2, 7.1 will launch, but  
> > will work
> > via Rosetta, I.E. Veeeeery slooooooowwwww, no good for any serious  
> > audio
> > work. I guess I'd bite the bullet and buy Logic 7 (it would cost  
> > you much
> > more than thousand bucks if you upgraded incrementally anyway).  
> > Just my
> > $0.02.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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>

Yup, and I ordered it. The only thing I had any apprehension about is  
that I have the old blue Emagic XS-Key (authorized for Mac 5.5.1, as  
well as Windows).  So as long as this upgrade path will work with  
that key, I should have no problem. Clearly, the upgrade is for Logic  
5 Gold/Plat --> 7, and that's what I have.

Right?

thanks,
Skip


On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:20 AM, mt100uk wrote:

> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/ 
> RSLID?
> mco=BED32A46&nplm=MA331Z/A
>
> Nuff said
>
> Mike
>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, F Stuart Leeds <skip@...> wrote:
> >
> > WHAT??
> >
> > Are you kidding me? With all the crap I've/we've been through with
> > Logic's compatibility and stability issues over these many years,  
> and
> > now I go I finally break down, put out and buy a state-of-the-art  
> Mac
> > so I can run the software that betrayed me when I was a Win user in
> > 2003...
> >
> > AND now you tell me they just managed to come up with a version that
> > will marginally run on the latest Apple hardware? How long before
> > Logic Pro will run *reliably* on my MacBook?
> >
> > This just strikes me as insane. So I should have bought a G5, huh?
> > Now, I have to spend $1000 on software that will eventually run  
> on my
> > laptop, if I let Apple experiment long enough.
> >
> > Maybe Cubase will be cheaper and more reliable, after all. I just
> > can't believe I bought a Mac so I could use Logic again, and it's
> > like it's 1999!
> >
> > Am I missing something here?
> >
> > Skip
> > On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote:
> >
> > > > oh, and one other related question -- did Logic 5 run under  
> OS X? Or
> > > > did that not happen until Logic 6?
> > >
> > > 5.4 was the first OS X compatible version. Having said that, the
> > > lowest
> > > version you can run on your McIntel is 7.2, 7.1 will launch, but
> > > will work
> > > via Rosetta, I.E. Veeeeery slooooooowwwww, no good for any serious
> > > audio
> > > work. I guess I'd bite the bullet and buy Logic 7 (it would cost
> > > you much
> > > more than thousand bucks if you upgraded incrementally anyway).
> > > Just my
> > > $0.02.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
> 



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F Stuart Leeds wrote:
> Yup, and I ordered it. The only thing I had any apprehension about is  
> that I have the old blue Emagic XS-Key (authorized for Mac 5.5.1, as  
> well as Windows).  So as long as this upgrade path will work with  
> that key, I should have no problem. Clearly, the upgrade is for Logic  
> 5 Gold/Plat --> 7, and that's what I have.
> 
> Right?
> 

Rad man youre on your way! Yeah when you get your DVD, youll get a new 
code to enter into the XSKey.. This unlocks EVERYTHING you see on there 
now, all the plugins, instruments, etc and updates your license to cover 
7 Pro.. And then you can go ahead and install! Sounds like the disc is 
already 7.2 so the only thing youll need to do after installing is 
update it to 7.2.3 and do your Apple Pro Application Support installs. 
The Pro App install will show up automatically in Software Update once 
Logic is installed and setup, but who knows if the disc is new enough it 
may already be included in the DVD install.

Glad that all worked out for ya and relatively painlessly!

-- 
Chris

http://www.monotrematamusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/monotremata
http://www.descentrecords.com

Thanks for the help so far, all . Logic Pro 7.2 is on the way.

 

I'm currently hobbling along with Cubase LE running on the MacBook. It's at
least allowing me to test the compatibility of my plugs - Stylus, Absynth,
and Miroslav all running well, so far.

 

However, I'm importing my PSP Audioware plugs - and I note that some are OS
9, some are OS X PPC, and only a few have been converted to UB.  So my
question is:

 

(1)   Do I use the VST or AU version of the plugins?  I assume RTAS is for
ProTools? And what is MAS?

(2)   Will these OS9 or PPC versions run, and if so, efficiently?

 

Sorry for the noob questions.Mac is a whole new world to me. 

 

Skip 



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1) AU. Yes. MOTU.
2) No.

In a message dated 7/22/07 2:33:46 AM, skip@... writes:


> (1) Do I use the VST or AU version of the plugins? I assume RTAS is for
> ProTools? And what is MAS?
> 
> (2) Will these OS9 or PPC versions run, and if so, efficiently?
> 




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On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Skip Leeds wrote:

> (1)   Do I use the VST or AU version of the plugins?  I assume RTAS  
> is for
> ProTools? And what is MAS?

AU. You can still use your UB (universal binary, I.E. PPC + Intel)  
VST plugs via FXPansion's VST/AU wrapper. MAS stands for MOTU Audio  
System and is the native format of Digital Performer.
>
> (2)   Will these OS9 or PPC versions run, and if so, efficiently?

Nope.

Best,

Andy