Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I have stripped silence from 24 minutes of dialogue, leaving 7  
minutes that I want to push all together into one 7-minute audio  
file.  If I select in the bin and add all to one track, the regions  
do what I want, but every time I make any changes, I have to delete  
the regions off the track, reselect in the bin and add back onto the  
track.  The "Tie Regions..." commands make them contiguous by  
lengthening them.  Is there a command somewhere that makes them  
contiguous by moving them?  My current method is cumbersome.

Thanks,

Gregory



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I have done this with podcasts before, and found the best method is
splitting with locators, deleting the audio you don't want then shifting it
back together - this method doesn't require reprocessing of the audio
either.

Andrew.

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Gregory Anderson <glists@...>wrote:

>   I have stripped silence from 24 minutes of dialogue, leaving 7
> minutes that I want to push all together into one 7-minute audio
> file. If I select in the bin and add all to one track, the regions
> do what I want, but every time I make any changes, I have to delete
> the regions off the track, reselect in the bin and add back onto the
> track. The "Tie Regions..." commands make them contiguous by
> lengthening them. Is there a command somewhere that makes them
> contiguous by moving them? My current method is cumbersome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gregory
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Once you have stripped silence, and re-arranged then make a new audio file 
out of it - which can be done in various ways. By the way there are at least two 
"tie" functions. I think you want to use the other one that puts all the 
pieces next to each other without affecting their lengths.


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On Aug 4, 2008, at 12:09 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> Once you have stripped silence, and re-arranged then make a new  
> audio file
> out of it - which can be done in various ways. By the way there are  
> at least two
> "tie" functions. I think you want to use the other one that puts  
> all the
> pieces next to each other without affecting their lengths.
>
Aha.  Found it.  I had looked up "Tie Regions" in the manual, and was  
presented with only 2 options:

> To tie regions (removing gaps between regions):
> 	Choose Region > Tie Regions by Length Change (or use the  
> corresponding key command).
> To tie selected regions between locators...

Being more of a manual reader than "trial and error" kind of guy, I  
assumed that those were my only options.  So after going back to the  
manual to prove Greg wrong, I on a whim looked at the menu options in  
Logic and saw the one not mentioned in this section of the manual -  
"Tie Regions by Position Change."  That's exactly what I wanted.

Andrew, I couldn't tell from your email what method you are using to  
"shift the audio back together," but if you're not already using this  
menu option, it may be the way to go for you as well.

Moral of this story?  Never read the manual

just kdding - Apple's manual is actually exceptionally well-written  
and very helpful.  It's very "Apple," however, in that it is very  
"biased" towards their pre-conceived notions of how we all use their  
products.  This is a prime example.  "Tie Regions" by length an w/in  
locators are in a section titled: Moving Regions.  Tie by Position,  
however, is mentioned only once, 6 pages later, in a section titled:  
Adding or Removing Song Passages.  Emagic's manual, for all its  
horrible indexing, awkward phrasing, and complete omissions, always  
seems to be aware of the multitude of ways Logic's functions could be  
conceived and used.

Thanks for the help,

Gregory

The thing that bothers me about the "ties" is that they are strangely named. 
In music, to tie notes is to extend them.   What that tie function does, is to 
make a bunch of regions contigous without gaps. What Apple could do is to add 
a "comment field" in the key commands to explain this, and then when someone 
searched for "move" which is what this function does, then this would come as 
an option. But no one would think "I need to move some regions to be 
contiguous so I am going to do a search for the word tie" - well maybe now you will 
make that connection but its bizarre.

There is also another useful key command to move a bunch of regions from 
separate tracks all onto one track. These two together allow you to make a bunch 
of cuts with the marquee tool on a raw audio, then arrange them all together on 
a single track next to each other, where they can be burned to a CD or 
whatever.

The other tie function - to lengthen the regions - i can't imagine what that 
would be useful for.


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