Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hi ladies and gentleman,
	Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
	
	I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3, from  
either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to  
switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can  
find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same one :-(
	I need:
	1) The ability to name the recording before I start
	2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end  
that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered one
	3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to something  
to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
	4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload  
warning in case the record levels are clipping

In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher (I  
have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils lessons  
for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3  
recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to make  
different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time to  
post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.  
They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the student  
a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on their  
iPod etc.

I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products were  
close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a little  
but none even bothered to email back :-((
Does anyone here know an online community or something where I could  
post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
	Many Thanks in advance for your help

Gareth Henderson
HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
t: +44 (0)2380 487669
e: gareth@...
w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk







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Why don't you just insist on a few seconds of silence or cut the mic 
inbetween singers. You will later be able to cut the audio easily in 
fact you can use Strip Silence. Also have the singer speak their name 
before they begin then you have it tied to the recording.  You can also 
do this yourself using another mic and they would never know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Henderson <gareth@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:43 am
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Off topic (sorry)  any know any audio shareware 
developers?

 
Hi ladies and gentleman,
    Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(

     I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3, 
from
either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to
switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can
find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same one :-(
    I need:
    1) The ability to name the recording before I start
    2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end
that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered one
     3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to 
something
to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
     4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload 

warning in case the record levels are clipping

In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher (I
have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils lessons
for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3
recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to make
different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time to
post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.
They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the student
a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on their
iPod etc.

I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products were
close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a little
but none even bothered to email back :-((
Does anyone here know an online community or something where I could
post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
    Many Thanks in advance for your help

Gareth Henderson
HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
t: +44 (0)2380 487669
e: gareth@...
w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk

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Hi Ya,
	It's down to speed and ease of use.

	The lessons move fast and it's not each pupil I want to separate but  
the exercises within that pupils lesson. We flow VERY quickly from one  
exercise to the next as it's a process of building muscle memory and  
we use one exercise to set up one response before moving fast to  
another before the sensation is lost. I want to be able to hit a  
command and know that I have a new track without pausing.
Additionally.... the other teachers are not sound engineers or Logic  
users and I really don't need another task!
	With an average 12-14 hour working day, I'm all about tools to make  
life easier :-)
	G

Gareth Henderson
HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
t: +44 (0)2380 487669
e: gareth@hlstudios.co.uk
w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk





On 22 May 2010, at 09:54, GAmoore@... wrote:

> Why don't you just insist on a few seconds of silence or cut the mic
> inbetween singers. You will later be able to cut the audio easily in
> fact you can use Strip Silence. Also have the singer speak their name
> before they begin then you have it tied to the recording. You can also
> do this yourself using another mic and they would never know.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gareth Henderson <gareth@...>
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:43 am
> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Off topic (sorry) any know any audio shareware
> developers?
>
>
> Hi ladies and gentleman,
> Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
>
> I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3,
> from
> either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to
> switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can
> find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same  
> one :-(
> I need:
> 1) The ability to name the recording before I start
> 2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end
> that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered one
> 3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to
> something
> to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
> 4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload
>
> warning in case the record levels are clipping
>
> In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher (I
> have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils lessons
> for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3
> recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
> The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to make
> different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time to
> post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.
> They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the student
> a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on their
> iPod etc.
>
> I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products were
> close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a little
> but none even bothered to email back :-((
> Does anyone here know an online community or something where I could
> post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
> Many Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Gareth Henderson
> HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
> t: +44 (0)2380 487669
> e: gareth@...
> w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



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You couldn't just get two recorders and press stop with one hand and  
start with the other?

Andy B

On 22 May 2010, at 10:04, Gareth Henderson wrote:

> Hi Ya,
> 	It's down to speed and ease of use.
>
> 	The lessons move fast and it's not each pupil I want to separate but
> the exercises within that pupils lesson. We flow VERY quickly from one
> exercise to the next as it's a process of building muscle memory and
> we use one exercise to set up one response before moving fast to
> another before the sensation is lost. I want to be able to hit a
> command and know that I have a new track without pausing.
> Additionally.... the other teachers are not sound engineers or Logic
> users and I really don't need another task!
> 	With an average 12-14 hour working day, I'm all about tools to make
> life easier :-)
> 	G
>
> Gareth Henderson
> HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
> t: +44 (0)2380 487669
> e: gareth@...
> w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2010, at 09:54, GAmoore@... wrote:
>
>> Why don't you just insist on a few seconds of silence or cut the mic
>> inbetween singers. You will later be able to cut the audio easily in
>> fact you can use Strip Silence. Also have the singer speak their name
>> before they begin then you have it tied to the recording. You can  
>> also
>> do this yourself using another mic and they would never know.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gareth Henderson <gareth@...>
>> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:43 am
>> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Off topic (sorry) any know any audio shareware
>> developers?
>>
>>
>> Hi ladies and gentleman,
>> Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
>>
>> I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3,
>> from
>> either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to
>> switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can
>> find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same
>> one :-(
>> I need:
>> 1) The ability to name the recording before I start
>> 2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end
>> that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered one
>> 3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to
>> something
>> to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
>> 4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload
>>
>> warning in case the record levels are clipping
>>
>> In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher (I
>> have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils  
>> lessons
>> for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3
>> recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
>> The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to  
>> make
>> different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time to
>> post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.
>> They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the student
>> a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on  
>> their
>> iPod etc.
>>
>> I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products were
>> close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a little
>> but none even bothered to email back :-((
>> Does anyone here know an online community or something where I could
>> post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
>> Many Thanks in advance for your help
>>
>> Gareth Henderson
>> HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
>> t: +44 (0)2380 487669
>> e: gareth@...
>> w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
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>
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>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

:-))
	And what will I play the piano with? :-))
	I think the solution I've come up with is the simplest by far,  
although I do appreciate people trying to come up with alternatives.  
I've been trying various solutions for years now (the tascams have  
been the best by far) but I have reached the conclusion that a mp3  
recorder with suitable controls is by far the best solution......just  
need to find a suitable contact to get it done. I was just hoping with  
the amount of audio professionals who frequent these lists, someone  
here might have some ideas where to find the people who tinker with  
these sort of things :-)
	Thanks for chipping in though guys, I appreciate the willingness to  
help,
	G

Gareth Henderson
HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
t: +44 (0)2380 487669
e: gareth@...
w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk





On 22 May 2010, at 10:18, Andy Brook wrote:

> You couldn't just get two recorders and press stop with one hand and
> start with the other?
>
> Andy B
>
> On 22 May 2010, at 10:04, Gareth Henderson wrote:
>
> > Hi Ya,
> > It's down to speed and ease of use.
> >
> > The lessons move fast and it's not each pupil I want to separate but
> > the exercises within that pupils lesson. We flow VERY quickly from  
> one
> > exercise to the next as it's a process of building muscle memory and
> > we use one exercise to set up one response before moving fast to
> > another before the sensation is lost. I want to be able to hit a
> > command and know that I have a new track without pausing.
> > Additionally.... the other teachers are not sound engineers or Logic
> > users and I really don't need another task!
> > With an average 12-14 hour working day, I'm all about tools to make
> > life easier :-)
> > G
> >
> > Gareth Henderson
> > HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
> > t: +44 (0)2380 487669
> > e: gareth@...
> > w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 May 2010, at 09:54, GAmoore@... wrote:
> >
> >> Why don't you just insist on a few seconds of silence or cut the  
> mic
> >> inbetween singers. You will later be able to cut the audio easily  
> in
> >> fact you can use Strip Silence. Also have the singer speak their  
> name
> >> before they begin then you have it tied to the recording. You can
> >> also
> >> do this yourself using another mic and they would never know.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gareth Henderson <gareth@...>
> >> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:43 am
> >> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Off topic (sorry) any know any audio  
> shareware
> >> developers?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi ladies and gentleman,
> >> Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
> >>
> >> I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3,
> >> from
> >> either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to
> >> switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can
> >> find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same
> >> one :-(
> >> I need:
> >> 1) The ability to name the recording before I start
> >> 2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end
> >> that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered  
> one
> >> 3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to
> >> something
> >> to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
> >> 4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload
> >>
> >> warning in case the record levels are clipping
> >>
> >> In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher  
> (I
> >> have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils
> >> lessons
> >> for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3
> >> recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
> >> The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to
> >> make
> >> different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time  
> to
> >> post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.
> >> They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the  
> student
> >> a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on
> >> their
> >> iPod etc.
> >>
> >> I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products  
> were
> >> close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a  
> little
> >> but none even bothered to email back :-((
> >> Does anyone here know an online community or something where I  
> could
> >> post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
> >> Many Thanks in advance for your help
> >>
> >> Gareth Henderson
> >> HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
> >> t: +44 (0)2380 487669
> >> e: gareth@hlstudios.co.uk
> >> w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 



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You can look on version tracker and check Audacity etc.  But it may 
very well be the situation that there is no solution. I often want 
software which no one has designed, so I am writing my own to do some 
midi that no one is making.

You may look into Apple Scripts to see if you can have it run macros to 
do what you want. Logic used to allow you to pre name an audio file but 
just one name and the key commands do not allow you to change that 
(unlike Photoshop Actions which would allow you to change the name of 
something in an automated way).

The other thing is old school piece of paper. Thats really the easiest. 
Set the recorder to record, then look at your watch, and write down 
"2.35 Jimmy Martin Exercise A" and of course write down when you start 
recording and you can use Logic's time display to randomly go to any 
location and process later.

Try Audio Hijack Pro from Rogue Amoeba

www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/

This program lets you record anything you can hear on your computer and then some. 

Steve Conslaw 

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Gareth Henderson <gareth@...> wrote:

>
> Hi ladies and gentleman,
> 	Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
> 	
> 	I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3, from  
> either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to  
> switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can  
> find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same one :-(
> 	I need:
> 	1) The ability to name the recording before I start
> 	2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end  
> that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered one
> 	3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to something  
> to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
> 	4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload  
> warning in case the record levels are clipping
> 
> In case you are wondering, my "other job" is as a singing teacher (I  
> have a few teachers that work for me too) and we record pupils lessons  
> for them to practice stuff at home. Currently we use tascam mp3  
> recorders, then transfer to macs to burn.
> The ability to split the lessons on the fly would make it easy to make  
> different exercises, different tracks on a CD (we don't have time to  
> post edit) and the FTP thing is because I'm starting to hate CD's.  
> They all end up in land fills (trash) so I'd rather email the student  
> a download link from my server and let them stick it straight on their  
> iPod etc.
> 
> I've tried emailing various shareware developers who's products were  
> close but not quite right, to see if I can pay them to tweak a little  
> but none even bothered to email back :-((
> Does anyone here know an online community or something where I could  
> post this and people could contact me if they can do it etc?
> 	Many Thanks in advance for your help
> 
> Gareth Henderson
> HL Studios, Southampton, Hampshire
> t: +44 (0)2380 487669
> e: gareth@...
> w: http://www.hlstudios.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

Not sure what you've tried, but if it didn't include an actions  
recorder or automation program like QuicKeys
(http://www.startly.com/products/quickeys/mac/4/), AppleScript or  
maybe even Automator in conjunction with something like an audio  
recorder like Audio Hijack or Wiretap, perhaps with an AU look-ahead  
limiter in front, I suggest to explore that route. Audio Hijack allows  
audio plugins and is Applescriptable, and you'll probably find it  
easier (and cheaper) to find and hire an Applescripter, if that's what  
you need, than a full-on app developer. Good luck; I'd be interested  
to hear what finally works!

dpc


On May 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, conslaw2 wrote:

>
> > Hi ladies and gentleman,
> > Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
> >
> > I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to mp3, from
> > either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be able to
> > switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which I can
> > find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the same  
> one :-(
> > I need:
> > 1) The ability to name the recording before I start
> > 2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in effect, end
> > that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially numbered  
> one
> > 3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to  
> something
> > to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
> > 4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an overload
> > warning in case the record levels are clipping
>
> 



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whats the difference in using Audio Hijack with start and stop, and 
hitting stop and record in Logic? I don't see any advantage to AH.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Coffin <dpcoffin@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 8:05 am
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Off topic (sorry)  any know any audio 
shareware developers?

 
Not sure what you've tried, but if it didn't include an actions
recorder or automation program like QuicKeys
(http://www.startly.com/products/quickeys/mac/4/), AppleScript or
maybe even Automator in conjunction with something like an audio
recorder like Audio Hijack or Wiretap, perhaps with an AU look-ahead
limiter in front, I suggest to explore that route. Audio Hijack allows
audio plugins and is Applescriptable, and you'll probably find it
easier (and cheaper) to find and hire an Applescripter, if that's what
you need, than a full-on app developer. Good luck; I'd be interested
to hear what finally works!

dpc

On May 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, conslaw2 wrote:

>
> &gt; Hi ladies and gentleman,
> > Sorry to ask here but I've tried the obvious with no luck! :-(
> >
> > I want to get software, for mac, that will record audio to 
mp3, from
> > either and internal mic or a USB audio device (I need to be 
able to
> > switch) but I need a few little added features , all of which 
I can
> > find in different mp3 recorders but not all together in the 
same
> one :-(
> > I need:
> > 1) The ability to name the recording before I start
> &gt; 2) a key command I can hit mid recording that will, in 
effect, end
> > that recording and immediately start a new, sequentially 
numbered
&gt; one
> > 3) The ability once the recording is done to either send to
> something
> > to burn as audio or to ftp to a server
> > 4) Some kind of audio input monitoring, preferably with an 
overload
> > warning in case the record levels are clipping
>
>

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