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2009-02-17 by gabu_004
OMFG people... please! could you waste your time making music with your modular synth instead of whining over speculations on a freakin' frame? g. --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > I'm not intending to be hostile, I'm sorry
2009-02-17 by intellijel
Added by Peter: The trimpot on the M12 offsets the frequency pot to adjust when the front panel control starts to open the filter. I looked through the whole message history but couldn't find any documentation on adjusting Vr1 of the model 12 to calibrate the Filter cutoff range.
2009-02-17 by intellijel
I have seen several custom or short run Plan B modules that have pro looking faceplates (using the standard Plan B style). I was just curious what method you use for putting artwork on the metal panels? From what I understand of the silk screening process there is a large investm
2009-02-17 by John V. Talbert
> http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?baseItem=SC100MM&cat=CABLESCONN&subcat=AUDIOCAB&prodClass=AMINMIN&mfg=&search=0&off= Anyone know if these Markertek cables are really worth the price? I'm primarily interested in signal quality and reliable connections with Plan B modules (a
2009-02-17 by John V. Talbert
> The Doepfer labels are vinyl stickers. You can peel them off, they > come off pretty cleanly too.. My G6 suitcases all have them removed > since I have no Doepfer modules in them. Just PlanB, Cwejman and > Livewire. Thanks. Didn't notice they were easily removable stickers (I a
2009-02-17 by Christopher Jacob Recording Device
Speaking purely from the perspective of someone who's followed this whole thread with some interest but no stake in it one way or the other I'm all for changing the subject at this point. I think this has been a useful and educational thread from an observers perspective, everyon
2009-02-17 by jared
I don't think he's being hostile. He's being cut and dry-- and this is the best way to be when you're running a business and people are suspect about price points. Honestly, we're lucky that Peter is choosing to have an open discussion about his price points. He doesn't have to e
2009-02-17 by Argitoth
There's no need to argue about prices... nothing speaks louder than the results. (results of sales/marketing) :)
2009-02-17 by (i think you can figure that out)
I'm not intending to be hostile, I'm sorry if it's coming across this way. I am being firm however that we will not be releasing products at a loss and our costs will run more than the $65 you're suggesting. Further, the prices you posed to make your point were incorrect. I think
2009-02-16 by laryn91
I'm not sure why you're so hostile to user feedback ("please by all means purchase the other unit", Adam Henry). I'm just trying to point out that $175 for just a frame is is significantly more expensive in most typical customer scenarios. It's not an attack on you or your compan
2009-02-16 by achtung_999
Why don't we wait until the ringer gets out there before we start assuming? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > This isn't a valid argument and your prices are incorrect. > > With the Doepfer you get a wallwart powered PSU good for 1.2 amp
2009-02-16 by (i think you can figure that out)
This isn't a valid argument and your prices are incorrect. With the Doepfer you get a wallwart powered PSU good for 1.2 amps and inadequate crowbar protection. You'll need 3 of these to get the same current rating as a single Plan B PSU so adding that together it's (approximately
2009-02-16 by John V. Talbert
Ah, well. It didn't hurt to ask. Thanks, Peter John On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:08 AM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > Not planning on two versions. We want people to know we made it. It may be a > little more understated however in the final version. > > - P > > --- In
2009-02-15 by Don Kim
The Doepfer labels are vinyl stickers. You can peel them off, they come off pretty cleanly too.. My G6 suitcases all have them removed since I have no Doepfer modules in them. Just PlanB, Cwejman and Livewire. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:08 AM, (i think you can figure that out) wro
2009-02-15 by DB
sorry to be to this thread late. When are you expecting to announce the price for this? And when are you planning on shipping them? Thanks for making great products at good price point! Thanks, Dave (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > > >>But for information's sake, the Ri
2009-02-15 by laryn91
Oops... my math was in error. It's even worse for the Ringer solution: $875 for the Ringer $390 for the Doepfer --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" wrote: > > Yeah that is a very cool case design! But if you're now going the DIY route, there's even > cheaper solu
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Not planning on two versions. We want people to know we made it. It may be a little more understated however in the final version. - P --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "John V. Talbert" wrote: > > > The best shot I've seen of it so far is the pic at > > http://4.bp.blog
2009-02-15 by John V. Talbert
> The best shot I've seen of it so far is the pic at > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xnBKPY_t0YM/SXSwdx-2w9I/AAAAAAAACLA/USYfHGetPbQ/s1600-h/plan-b-ringer-performance-system.jpg Just wondering...will the final Ringers have the Plan B logo pre-printed on both ends? If so, it would be
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Dan. Please take this as a comment only and for exactly it's worth, but it is not in my intention to knowingly release products at a loss. That isn't the way Warren Buffet does it, that ain't the way we're gonna do it. But for information's sake, the Ringer IS the best priced rac
2009-02-15 by JOSHUA HOLLEY
Hey, I just got a M10 (used) and no matter where the attack is it pops. It's driving me nuts! I revisited a M10 video on youtube and i can hear pops in the video...is there any way to get rid of the POP! Or is this something i have to get used to. thanks Josh
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Pops? Please clarify... if you mean there's no attack, there's trim pot on the module...turn the decay to zero, the attack to about 1 o' clock and then turn the trimpot CW until you start noticing the attack. that should put all phases it back into calibration. that is...if pop i
2009-02-15 by intellijel
Well every 3U of extra space is potentially 4-8 or more new module purchases. If the case is sold at a $50 loss (or whatever is needed to beat all other competitor options) then you could offset that by increasing prices on all modules that you are selling at a loss. A cheap case
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Hey...I already make a few products at a loss...I don't have to add another to that list, do i? /--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "intellijel" wrote: > > I am dreaming of the day when all the eurorack manufacturers join > forces to supply a single and ultra affordable c
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Seizing the moment in an otherwise impossible truck rental mid month crisis, I got a call from Budget rent-a-truck saying they had a 16-footer available for Friday night only and we jumped on it. So the fat lady has SUNG: We have officially taken residence in suite 322 of the Hel
2009-02-15 by intellijel
I am dreaming of the day when all the eurorack manufacturers join forces to supply a single and ultra affordable case option. The motivation? There is not a single modular synth enthusiast on the planet that does not get twitchy when there is spare space in their rack. So the che
2009-02-15 by (i think you can figure that out)
Plan B group member Axel Jungkunst just authored a stunning seven page article/review on a few of the Plan B line in the German on line magazine Amazona.de. It's really terrific: http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=2143 thank you, Axel!
2009-02-14 by Bakis Sirros
hello, i am upgrading to a bigger case for my live concerts. so, i have for sale two black Doepfer Mini cases (with transformer 230 volts) or i would prefer to trade them for module(s). price is 60% of new (as they are the older 28HP version) and that means: 54 euros each! (so, f
2009-02-14 by Axel Jungkunst
Sometimes a man has a crucial experience! :-))))))))))) (i think you can figure that out) schrieb: i gotta tell ya, after I saw that vid I cut my hair off. Going through life looking like the comic book guy in the Simpsons is not what I had planned. --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yaho
2009-02-14 by laryn91
Yeah that is a very cool case design! But if you're now going the DIY route, there's even cheaper solutions. Here's the math "dude" :-) $390 for 2 Doepfer DIY #2 kits + whatever it costs to make the cool Buchla looking case. $525 + case costs for Ringer solution. I don't mean to
2009-02-13 by Dave Jones
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:40:58PM -0000, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: Hi Peter, > It's what? 1.2 amps i think, yes? Four rows is seriously pushing it. > Maybe three, but you'll be stretching it to it's limit which is an > invitation for noise problems. Our supply is
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
Nope! The ringer power is going to be managed like Sean Price handled the Space Case - single power cable daisychained. We'll be doing adapters for A. Systems gear. --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" wrote: > > Don't you also need a power distribution bus? Is th
2009-02-13 by laryn91
Don't you also need a power distribution bus? Is that included with each Ringer? Is there some sort of mounting attachment to the ringer so you can still use your current ribbon cables? --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure that out)" wrote: > > It's
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
i gotta tell ya, after I saw that vid I cut my hair off. Going through life looking like the comic book guy in the Simpsons is not what I had planned. --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" wrote: > > In case you didn't know... > > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/200
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
It's what? 1.2 amps i think, yes? Four rows is seriously pushing it. Maybe three, but you'll be stretching it to it's limit which is an invitation for noise problems. Our supply is going to give you 3.2 and completely over current protected. You plug a module in backwards, the PS
2009-02-13 by Don Kim
Will the cables from All Electronics still fit? On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > Not the same. > > 3.5mm jacks are smaller diameter than the 1/8 inch, making 1/8 inch > jacs the perfect solution for crappy Cliff jacks. I would tell you
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
Yep! Just so you know, I've been talking to the owner to see if he's down for getyting some 1 footers in. He's a great guy. - P --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, Don Kim wrote: > > Will the cables from All Electronics still fit? > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM,
2009-02-13 by Van Eck
Can't the power supply in a G6 also power about 4 racks worth of modules? On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, (i think you can figure that out) wrote: > This is why I don't like giving prices out before things are final. > Please don't mnail me on this stuff, the machinist we're usi
2009-02-13 by sascha victoria
Yeah dude, do the math on a 15u system... thats a pretty sweet deal. Also, it would be really easy to do something like this. In stead of the curved sides you put straight lines for each rack. All you'd need to do is cut the sides, top and front. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PLA
2009-02-13 by Richard Lainhart
There is, in fact, a slight difference between 1/8" and 3.5mm jacks. However, the Markertek connectors listed below are in fact 3.5mm, and while the 200e is specified for 1/8", in practice, I've never had any issues with the cables being too tight or too loose, and have not found
2009-02-13 by nrejack@mail.utexas.edu
other way around. 1/8" = .125", 3.5mm ~= .138" Quoting "(i think you can figure that out)" : > Not the same. > > 3.5mm jacks are smaller diameter than the 1/8 inch, making 1/8 inch > jacs the perfect solution for crappy Cliff jacks. I would tell you by > how much, but our caliper
2009-02-13 by Monroe Eskew
I think 3.5mm and 1/8" is the same. I am satisfied with the 1/8" stereo cables from Parts Express. They're cheap, and stereo cables work fine for mono signals. But maybe my tastes are not as refined as yours... On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, sascha victoria sascha.victoria@gmai
2009-02-13 by Chris Muir
On Feb 12, 2009, at 4:10 PM, sascha victoria wrote: > This may be a dumb question but is there a difference between 1/8 > and 3.5mm jacks? I've just been going through this for a couple modules I'm designing for the Buchla. The Buchla system uses Switchcraft open frame "Tini- Jax
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
Not the same. 3.5mm jacks are smaller diameter than the 1/8 inch, making 1/8 inch jacs the perfect solution for crappy Cliff jacks. I would tell you by how much, but our calipers are packed no joke). PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU CANNOT INSERT 1/8TH INCH PLUGS INTO OUR NEW JACKS THE ONES
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
This is why I don't like giving prices out before things are final. Please don't mnail me on this stuff, the machinist we're using for the rack ears hasn't quoted our schedled quantities yet. But you must realize that a single PSU can power four, possibly five rows. Once the mult
2009-02-13 by laryn91
Darn, the Ringer no longer seems all that economical anymore. Maybe I'm missing something, but I was expecting something more like DotCom's frame rack: $65. Maybe find out who's making it for them much cheaper? If I want a 6U system, I will need $340 (2 Ringers) + $175 (PS, assum
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
The two Trimpots on the M30 adjust the sensitivity level of the Kinetic Gates. It regulated how much movement is required - the velocity - in order to trip the gate outputs. - P
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
We've got god quotes from our metal manufacturers and we've having other prototypes made now. The rails are covered as well. Price has not been finalized. They'll run somewhere between $150 to $17 with the power cable. The Powr supply is stil in the fire. There are alot of cosidr
2009-02-13 by (i think you can figure that out)
Mults are not mixers, they're splitters. One requires a summing mode with some sort of current limiting. There are passive mixers (not that good) and active mixers (the correct way to do it). Passive mixers will do the job, but the signals will effect each other. Let's say you ha
2009-02-13 by Christopher Jacob Recording Device
Ok, so this may have come up before I joined the conversation but I've been wondering for some time why on the Plan B website you've advised people not to use the Dynamic Mult as a mixing device? Is there a practical or technical reason for this? I ask because I'm planning out a
2009-02-13 by rustybassman
Hi Peter, When do you think we might see some pricing and availability info for the Ringer and its power supply up on www.ear-group.net ? I'm very anxious to get started with these. Oh yeah, there is a sight resemblance between you and the comic book guy from the Simpson's. Nah,