QTR-Quadtone RIP

>
> Help!  I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro.  I just purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game.  I print on Epson Premium glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of QTR, but these photos never seem to dry.  They are easily damaged, scratched or smeared.  Is this normal?   Should I be using different paper?  I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the prints is scary.  Is anyone else having this issue?  thanks!
>

>
> Its not normal
> The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is 
> printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper 
> for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that 
> doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not 
> drying)
> 
> On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> >
> > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just 
> > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium 
> > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of 
> > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged, 
> > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different 
> > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the 
> > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> mike finley photography
> http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

-----Original Message-----
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of gmikol
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:04 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through
QuadtoneRIP

 

  


Also, make sure that your QTR profile is using the photo black ink (PK) when
using a glossy photo paper. I've found that matte black (MK) does create a
very delicate image on glossy and lustre type photo papers, and quite prone
to rubbing off.

--Greg

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Mike Finley <mike.finley@...> wrote:
>
> Its not normal
> The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is 
> printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper 
> for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that 
> doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not 
> drying)
> 
> On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> >
> > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just 
> > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium 
> > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of 
> > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged, 
> > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different 
> > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the 
> > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> mike finley photography
> http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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>
> Help!  I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro.  I just purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game.  I print on Epson Premium glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of QTR, but these photos never seem to dry.  They are easily damaged, scratched or smeared.  Is this normal?   Should I be using different paper?  I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the prints is scary.  Is anyone else having this issue?  thanks!
>

>
> Are you printing on the correct side of the paper?  
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "CherylS" <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> >
> > Help!  I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro.  I just purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game.  I print on Epson Premium glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of QTR, but these photos never seem to dry.  They are easily damaged, scratched or smeared.  Is this normal?   Should I be using different paper?  I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the prints is scary.  Is anyone else having this issue?  thanks!
> >
>

>
> Greg,
> 
> You may be on to something but since I am so new to QTR I need additional
> help.  Here is my setup:
> 
>  
> 
> Media type: Photo paper
> 
>  
> 
> Curve setup:  
> 
> Curve 1: UC_EEnhMatte-cool  (85%)
> 
> Curve 2: UC_EEnhMatte-sepia  (15%)
> 
> Curve 3: none
> 
> The only curve choices are "matte" type, there is no photo or glossy choice.
> Maybe this is where my problem is???
> 
>  
> 
> Resolution: 1440x1440 super
> 
> Speed: uni-directional
> 
> I haven't used the Advanced Adjustments at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Any additional hints are most welcome!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cheryl
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of gmikol
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:04 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through
> QuadtoneRIP
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Also, make sure that your QTR profile is using the photo black ink (PK) when
> using a glossy photo paper. I've found that matte black (MK) does create a
> very delicate image on glossy and lustre type photo papers, and quite prone
> to rubbing off.
> 
> --Greg
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Mike Finley <mike.finley@> wrote:
> >
> > Its not normal
> > The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is 
> > printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper 
> > for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that 
> > doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not 
> > drying)
> > 
> > On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> > >
> > > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just 
> > > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium 
> > > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of 
> > > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged, 
> > > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different 
> > > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the 
> > > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > mike finley photography
> > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

-----Original Message----- 
From: CherylS
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through 
QuadtoneRIP

Ok, I printed the ink pattern page - print using calibration mode on 8x10 
photo paper.  Ink 1 - Black is the fragile ink, but Ink 7 - Light Black is 
not.  How do I get QTR to use only Ink 7?  Do I have to pull out the matte 
black cartridge??

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Cheryl Stephenson" 
<cherylstephenson@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> You may be on to something but since I am so new to QTR I need additional
> help.  Here is my setup:
>
>
>
> Media type: Photo paper
>
>
>
> Curve setup:
>
> Curve 1: UC_EEnhMatte-cool  (85%)
>
> Curve 2: UC_EEnhMatte-sepia  (15%)
>
> Curve 3: none
>
> The only curve choices are "matte" type, there is no photo or glossy 
> choice.
> Maybe this is where my problem is???
>
>
>
> Resolution: 1440x1440 super
>
> Speed: uni-directional
>
> I haven't used the Advanced Adjustments at all.
>
>
>
> Any additional hints are most welcome!
>
> Regards,
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of gmikol
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:04 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through
> QuadtoneRIP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, make sure that your QTR profile is using the photo black ink (PK) 
> when
> using a glossy photo paper. I've found that matte black (MK) does create a
> very delicate image on glossy and lustre type photo papers, and quite 
> prone
> to rubbing off.
>
> --Greg
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ,
> Mike Finley <mike.finley@> wrote:
> >
> > Its not normal
> > The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is
> > printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper
> > for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that
> > doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not
> > drying)
> >
> > On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> > >
> > > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just
> > > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium
> > > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of
> > > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged,
> > > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different
> > > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the
> > > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > mike finley photography
> > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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>
> The curves you are using are for matte paper and use the matte black, not 
> the photo black. If you are going to use glossy paper you need different 
> curves which use the photo black.
> The 1800 doesn't have a Light Black cartridge. Where are you getting Light 
> Black?
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: CherylS
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through 
> QuadtoneRIP
> 
> Ok, I printed the ink pattern page - print using calibration mode on 8x10 
> photo paper.  Ink 1 - Black is the fragile ink, but Ink 7 - Light Black is 
> not.  How do I get QTR to use only Ink 7?  Do I have to pull out the matte 
> black cartridge??
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Cheryl Stephenson" 
> <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > You may be on to something but since I am so new to QTR I need additional
> > help.  Here is my setup:
> >
> >
> >
> > Media type: Photo paper
> >
> >
> >
> > Curve setup:
> >
> > Curve 1: UC_EEnhMatte-cool  (85%)
> >
> > Curve 2: UC_EEnhMatte-sepia  (15%)
> >
> > Curve 3: none
> >
> > The only curve choices are "matte" type, there is no photo or glossy 
> > choice.
> > Maybe this is where my problem is???
> >
> >
> >
> > Resolution: 1440x1440 super
> >
> > Speed: uni-directional
> >
> > I haven't used the Advanced Adjustments at all.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any additional hints are most welcome!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of gmikol
> > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:04 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through
> > QuadtoneRIP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, make sure that your QTR profile is using the photo black ink (PK) 
> > when
> > using a glossy photo paper. I've found that matte black (MK) does create a
> > very delicate image on glossy and lustre type photo papers, and quite 
> > prone
> > to rubbing off.
> >
> > --Greg
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > ,
> > Mike Finley <mike.finley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Its not normal
> > > The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is
> > > printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper
> > > for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that
> > > doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not
> > > drying)
> > >
> > > On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just
> > > > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium
> > > > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of
> > > > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged,
> > > > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different
> > > > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the
> > > > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > mike finley photography
> > > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> > > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

>
> The Light Black is the name off the QTR Ink pattern page, but I think it uses the photo black ink cartridge -- it looks really black at the right end and it's glossy and NOT fragile.  The only curve selections that I have are "matte".  Do I have to create my own?  I hope not, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to do that...:(
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Hassan El-Zayyat" <halacam@> wrote:
> >
> > The curves you are using are for matte paper and use the matte black, not 
> > the photo black. If you are going to use glossy paper you need different 
> > curves which use the photo black.
> > The 1800 doesn't have a Light Black cartridge. Where are you getting Light 
> > Black?
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: CherylS
> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through 
> > QuadtoneRIP
> > 
> > Ok, I printed the ink pattern page - print using calibration mode on 8x10 
> > photo paper.  Ink 1 - Black is the fragile ink, but Ink 7 - Light Black is 
> > not.  How do I get QTR to use only Ink 7?  Do I have to pull out the matte 
> > black cartridge??
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Cheryl Stephenson" 
> > <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > You may be on to something but since I am so new to QTR I need additional
> > > help.  Here is my setup:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Media type: Photo paper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Curve setup:
> > >
> > > Curve 1: UC_EEnhMatte-cool  (85%)
> > >
> > > Curve 2: UC_EEnhMatte-sepia  (15%)
> > >
> > > Curve 3: none
> > >
> > > The only curve choices are "matte" type, there is no photo or glossy 
> > > choice.
> > > Maybe this is where my problem is???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Resolution: 1440x1440 super
> > >
> > > Speed: uni-directional
> > >
> > > I haven't used the Advanced Adjustments at all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any additional hints are most welcome!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of gmikol
> > > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 10:04 AM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Photos never dry after printing through
> > > QuadtoneRIP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, make sure that your QTR profile is using the photo black ink (PK) 
> > > when
> > > using a glossy photo paper. I've found that matte black (MK) does create a
> > > very delicate image on glossy and lustre type photo papers, and quite 
> > > prone
> > > to rubbing off.
> > >
> > > --Greg
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > ,
> > > Mike Finley <mike.finley@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Its not normal
> > > > The usual cause of inks not drying (whatever software you use) is
> > > > printing on the wrong side of the paper (or using an inappropriate paper
> > > > for the ink and loading far too much ink onto the paper, but that
> > > > doesn't sound likely if you're happy with the image apart from it not
> > > > drying)
> > > >
> > > > On 02/02/2012 17:09, CherylS wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Help! I have an Epson R1800 and am on a PC with XP Pro. I just
> > > > > purchased QuadtoneRIP so am new to this game. I print on Epson Premium
> > > > > glossy paper, and am very satisfied with the B&W photos coming out of
> > > > > QTR, but these photos never seem to dry. They are easily damaged,
> > > > > scratched or smeared. Is this normal? Should I be using different
> > > > > paper? I was estatic to get the color I want but the fragility of the
> > > > > prints is scary. Is anyone else having this issue? thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > mike finley photography
> > > > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> > > > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

>
> Ok, I think I have the matte black vs photo black thing figured out.  Now all I have to do is get a better curve so my whites are whiter.  Thanks all!
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "CherylS" <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> >
> > The Light Black is the name off the QTR Ink pattern page, but I think it uses the photo black ink cartridge -- it looks really black at the right end and it's glossy and NOT fragile.  The only curve selections that I have are "matte".  Do I have to create my own?  I hope not, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to do that...:(
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Hassan El-Zayyat" <halacam@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The curves you are using are for matte paper and use the matte black, not 
> > > the photo black. If you are going to use glossy paper you need different 
> > > curves which use the photo black.
> > > The 1800 doesn't have a Light Black cartridge. Where are you getting Light 
> > > Black?

>
> Cheryl...it appears as if you've found the cause of your problem. The only thing you can do is make your own QTR Profile and Curve.
> 
> On Windows, using the QTRgui makes this process pretty straightforward. There are some useful documents on the QuadtoneRIP download page that describe how to make a profile. Since you only have one black ink in your printer, you don't have to worry about ink partitioning (this is required on printers which have multiple "light black" inks). The only concepts you need to master are setting an ink limit (which you can estimate just by looking at calibration pattern printout), and linearization, which can be done with just a scanner, if you have one, though I have never done it that way. You can also use a densitometer or a spectrophotometer if you have (or have access to) one of those.
> 
> There's plenty of people on this list who can help you with those, once you get to that point. 
> 
> Best of luck...
> 
> --Greg
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "CherylS" <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I think I have the matte black vs photo black thing figured out.  Now all I have to do is get a better curve so my whites are whiter.  Thanks all!
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "CherylS" <cherylstephenson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Light Black is the name off the QTR Ink pattern page, but I think it uses the photo black ink cartridge -- it looks really black at the right end and it's glossy and NOT fragile.  The only curve selections that I have are "matte".  Do I have to create my own?  I hope not, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to do that...:(
> > > 
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Hassan El-Zayyat" <halacam@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The curves you are using are for matte paper and use the matte black, not 
> > > > the photo black. If you are going to use glossy paper you need different 
> > > > curves which use the photo black.
> > > > The 1800 doesn't have a Light Black cartridge. Where are you getting Light 
> > > > Black?
>