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2007-12-29 by Steve Ridley
> The 6 vs. 8 pots mentioned below was already switched over by July of 1977 when I started > working in the Hollywood facility, this being both both pre-Oakland and pre-STS. There was a > major upgrade already in effect when I started. Most of the modules still in existence toda
2007-12-29 by S V G
Just to add some clarification... The 6 vs. 8 pots mentioned below was already switched over by July of 1977 when I started working in the Hollywood facility, this being both both pre-Oakland and pre-STS. There was a major upgrade already in effect when I started. Most of the mod
2007-12-28 by Bill Sequeira
Probably the easiest would be to construct a Y-splitter, as I have never heard of one being available as a standard part. Suggest having a quick conversation with Rex to make sure that power distribution and load balance (or imbalance for that matter) won't have a negative effect
2007-12-28 by riluttante
Hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to send power from one PS4 to two distribution boards... I'm using a four-panel portable system. The panels are mounted in a custom-built flightcase consisting of two halves of equal depth, with two panels in each half. Each of these half-cases
2007-12-28 by Bakis Sirros
i rather agree with David regarding the prices... some weeks ago, some early pre-STS panels were on ebay and the most expensive of them went for a little under 2000usd. (the other 3 had a few cosmetic issues though... but advertized to be working) but they were panels that looked
2007-12-28 by buchla300
All in all I am very happy that most people think $2k is a minimum per panel! I am not looking to sell or buy, but I am very happy with my investment (I paid $1800 for 6 panels maybe 15 years ago ;-) ) But the price is what they sell for and a very nice 4 panel system got no bids
2007-12-28 by buchla300
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Steve Ridley wrote: > > > Would it be right in thinking that the prices below $2000 were > suggested by people who want to buy Serge panels and the prices > above $2000 come from people who already have them? > > > Steve > Well not here! I am
2007-12-28 by legion01x
Well if that were true then I'm the first to say all panels *really* cost $500 new. Now, does that help any? :) I'm sure people inflate their opinions for all sorts of reasons but it's an oversimplification to say that's why some folks are saying $800 while others are saying $250
2007-12-28 by evetsterueb
Sounds like some thing's drawing more than a usual amount of power. Sometimes old capacitors leak current. If something is really off you might be able to feel heat on components. If you're competent to do this sort of thing you could use an ammeter to measure current draw at the
2007-12-27 by Y.:P
Interesting one Bill.. thanks for sharing that example. would be an interesting one to troubleshoot y_ On 27-Dec-07, at 7:24 PM, Bill Sequeira wrote: I did actually, and it was quite quirky. When I hooked up the 4 panels to my large psd one of the panels would not light up correc
2007-12-27 by Bill Sequeira
I did actually, and it was quite quirky. When I hooked up the 4 panels to my large psd one of the panels would not light up correctly if the other three were present, and would light up ok if a subset of the three was present (but not all three). A few people cracked their heads
2007-12-27 by Steve Ridley
Would it be right in thinking that the prices below $2000 were suggested by people who want to buy Serge panels and the prices above $2000 come from people who already have them? Steve
2007-12-27 by Y.:P
Thank you Bill. I appreciate that clarification and I do agree on the differences from the mechanical standpoint. I was aware of the design cleanup/improvements. Did you have problems with your '80s kit? kindly Y On 27-Dec-07, at 4:07 PM, Bill Sequeira wrote: Hmm - there is a dif
2007-12-27 by Bill Sequeira
Hmm - there is a difference in quality between the pre-STS '70s/early '80s vintage and the Oakland/Hartland production - I would not pay the same price for a pre-STS panel, period. There are mechanical differences (chassis fit and mechanical rigidity), cosmetic (plastic wrap vs.
2007-12-27 by amnesia
I am sure I paid $9k for my 5 panel Serge from Analog Haven last year. legion01x wrote: > > - > I dont' disagree that $2k is a lot believe me but a new STS panel is > around $4k+ which is more :) > > One correction, Analog Haven has never sold a panel for $2k. They > currently ha
2007-12-27 by Y.:P
I would tend to agree with the $2k+/panel evaluation; Firstly, as was pointed out, new panels DID (!!) sell for $4k+ and are no longer available hence, in my book, they're already worth more. Secondly, imho, there should be little difference made between pre-STS and STS panels (a
2007-12-27 by Bill Sequeira
Wow - I bought an '80s 4-panel system with the GE Pitch Follower in excellent condition/checked by Kevin L for $5K in 2003. Not a bad return if it can be sold for that much. Cheers -- Bill __________________________________________ Bill Sequeira, PHD On Dec 27, 2007, at 12:39 PM,
2007-12-27 by matthew carpenter
correction: it's minime123@... On 12/27/07, legion01x legionhwp@... > wrote: - I dont' disagree that $2k is a lot believe me but a new STS panel is around $4k+ which is more :) One correction, Analog Haven has never sold a panel for $2k. They currently have some pre STS pannels i
2007-12-27 by matthew carpenter
Tonetweakers aka minime123@... recently raised their 4 panel 80's Serge from $8999 to $9999. It includes the GE Pitch Follower. On 12/27/07, legion01x legionhwp@... > wrote: - I dont' disagree that $2k is a lot believe me but a new STS panel is around $4k+ which is more :) One co
2007-12-27 by legion01x
- I dont' disagree that $2k is a lot believe me but a new STS panel is around $4k+ which is more :) One correction, Analog Haven has never sold a panel for $2k. They currently have some pre STS pannels in for a minimum of $2500 each plus shipping no PS. I spoke to Chuck last week
2007-12-27 by buchla300
Well, I'm in Europe and still find $2k per panel used a fairly hefty price for a "normal" panel pre STS. They have less features per panel due to the 6 vs 8 pots which means a 6 panel system like mine in practice has less per panel. Recently a half filled panel went for $550 or s
2007-12-27 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : LOL !! awww c'mon. you can give us a better picture than that! hahahaha j duval -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "buchla300" david.morley@... > > No! This is mine and it's staying here! > http://tinyurl.com/27jclw > --- In SergeModular@ya
2007-12-27 by buchla300
No! This is mine and it's staying here! http://tinyurl.com/27jclw --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , darkstr1746@... wrote: > > is this the six panel system that Peter is selling for a "friend"? If so, yeah, i'd cough up the cash for that one. LOL > kind regards > j duval > --
2007-12-27 by legion01x
I have been in the Serge "game" the last few years. ANY pannel is going to run $1500 on up up up. I'm talking broken modules at that price IF you can even see it for under $2k Any panel in good shape will fetch $2500 Pre STS or not. Maybe some here wouldn't pay that but there are
2007-12-27 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : is this the six panel system that Peter is selling for a "friend"? If so, yeah, i'd cough up the cash for that one. LOL kind regards j duval -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "buchla300" david.morley@... > > I stand by my valuations of $80
2007-12-27 by Bakis Sirros
hello List, many thanks to all for the detailed replys!! best regards, :-) Bakis. --- evetsterueb synth@... > wrote: > The comments above are a good guide. Watch the > newsgroups and ebay for > a while. As far as the difference of opinion about > prices for old > panels, I've see
2007-12-27 by Steve Ridley
> I wonder if anybody has a timeline of these things? Most later circuit boards have the date at one end, etched into the board design, so a timeline would be easy to produce. There will also usually be a little round paper label with the date and initials of the builder or teste
2007-12-27 by evetsterueb
The comments above are a good guide. Watch the newsgroups and ebay for a while. As far as the difference of opinion about prices for old panels, I've seen old panels fetch high prices. The main determinant seems to be how well the module selection matches the desires of the buyer
2007-12-27 by buchla300
I stand by my valuations of $800 to $1800 in general If we are talking Pre STS then I think over $2000 would need it to be full of exceptional modules and this is unlikely although totally possible that one panel has JUST rare and expensive modules. So for anything more or less w
2007-12-26 by Carbon111
>so, at worse, will be around i guess 1800 USD? (if it >includes WAD, Freq.shifters, vco's, etc...) ...probably between 2k and 3k if its in good condition. Regards, James -- http://www.carbon111.com/serge.html
2007-12-26 by amnesia
I have a real early TKB and its got everything the later version has, its been inspected inside by Ken and he confirmed it has all the latest mods. It works great, you can see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkSx42Xv7g darkstr1746@... wrote: > > no offense but as far as i'm
2007-12-26 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : no offense but as far as i'm concerned any pre STS panel price should be determined by the condition of the face plate and the overall condition of the circuit boards at that age you can bet that some things are going to have to be replaced all the way down to a ful
2007-12-26 by Tim J
Yup, this is a very true statement. You can see a price list on the sergefans (egres) site and give yourself a good idea of what a panel would have cost new. I would say its rather important to find out if the panel is in good working condition before you buy it. I have some old
2007-12-26 by Tim J
Yup, this is a very true statement. You can see a price list on the sergefans (egres) site and give yourself a good idea of what a panel would have cost new. I would say its rather important to find out if the panel is in good working condition before you buy it. I have some old
2007-12-26 by data2action
it is entirely meaningless to cite prices independant of which modules are included. a quick search of the messages on this group for "FS" will give you a lot of information on what panels have been offered for, w/ detail on which modules are more sought-after... glancing quickly
2007-12-26 by Tim J
I think you would be very lucky to find a panel with a WAD and Freq shifter for under $2500 usd... > hello David, > > thank you! > so, at worse, will be around i guess 1800 USD? (if it > includes WAD, Freq.shifters, vco's, etc...) > > Merry Christmas!! > i am buying two pre-STS s
2007-12-26 by Bakis Sirros
hello David, thank you! so, at worse, will be around i guess 1800 USD? (if it includes WAD, Freq.shifters, vco's, etc...) Merry Christmas!! i am buying two pre-STS serge panels soon... btw, David, do you use a serge? of what age? how many panels, etc? pics? best regards, :-) Baki
2007-12-26 by buchla300
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros wrote: > > hello, > come on, no reply about this please? > a rough price? > thank you, > Bakis. > Hi Bakkis It really is hard to say, but I would suggest between $800 ( for say a sequencer and mixer or such - like) and $1800 (for
2007-12-26 by Bakis Sirros
hello, come on, no reply about this please? a rough price? thank you, Bakis. --- Bakis Sirros synth_freak_2000@... > wrote: > hello List, > > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > could you please tell me what is a normal price for > a > pre sound transform systems Serge panel ? > w
2007-12-24 by Bakis Sirros
hello List, Merry Christmas to all of you! could you please tell me what is a normal price for a pre sound transform systems Serge panel ? without psu of course. i know it depends on the modules included in the panel, but i am just looking for rough guideline prices... thank you
2007-12-14 by matthew carpenter
Thanks very much. I thought/hoped it would involve the ACPR as I have several of them. Matt On 12/13/07, evetsterueb synth@... > wrote: --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "matthew carpenter" wrote: > > Given the existing STS modules, how would one patch a sequential switch? >
2007-12-14 by evetsterueb
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "matthew carpenter" wrote: > > Given the existing STS modules, how would one patch a sequential switch? > > Thanks. > You can cascade ACPR (Active Processor) modules. Yes the CV lets you crossfade between control voltages but drive it with a
2007-12-13 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : fasten your safety belts. LOL jduval -------------- Original message ---------------------- > I'm hopeless in writing short postings, so please give me a day or > two, and I'll be back. > Lars > >
2007-12-13 by lars_arnwald
OK guys, Obviously I hit a nerve somewhere, you won't let this issue go. My favorite reply is definitely mrboningen's: "bah humbug!" Nobody has cared commenting on it. Regardless of it was an expression of agreement or something else, I really envy that kind of message 'cause it
2007-12-13 by matthew carpenter
Given the existing STS modules, how would one patch a sequential switch? Thanks.
2007-12-13 by John P
well, that's an opinion about a style... everybody's welcome to voice theirs if they care to. I haven't seen things get out of hand yet or get personal so s'all fine by me... cuari7 wrote: > > NOT YAWN BUT YUM. > > > -- m/n/m/l surreal electronic music, sound, noise http://www.mn
2007-12-13 by matthew carpenter
"Many of those who appreciate this stuff (meself included) also have a taste for more complex, rhythmic/melodic music. [...]Telomere is very relaxing, and I have the added pleasure of picturing a beautiful Serge system churning away, making those beautiful sounds." Well put! On 1
2007-12-13 by cuari7
The least expected thing on these Yahoo fora is a flame war, as I have always found these to be less populated, much more civilized sites of "exchange of enthusiasm", if you will. I guess there will always be an occasional individual willing to break the norm, and profess antagon
2007-12-11 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : thanks Yulian. It's a point well taken and one that seems to get lost consistantly on this list, and others,. . . that is, one mans "outstanding" is another mans "crap". as for me, i'm not fond of Telomere or Be-Bop and Chick Corea . .so there!! LMAO!!! kind regards
2007-12-11 by Y.:P
I'm certain that this conversation has been had as long as music's been around:... this is a subjective matter!!! What seems like "not" music to Lars is music to someone else, no? Lars: There are quite a few old school classical musicians out there that would consider your much-l