Re: used serge panel price?
2008-01-12 by Steve Ridley
I notice that three 1979 (ish) panels just finished on Ebay. Two sold at $1500 and $1600, and one didn't sell at $1400. Nos. 150201783398/4291/4382. Steve
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Serge schematics?
2008-01-12 by Bakis Sirros
hello list, i may have to give a (pre-STS) serge panel for repair. do you know where i can find some serge schematics (on the web or to buy)? thanks in advance, best regards, Bakis. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://w
"Standard" paper faced Serge knobs and pots
2008-01-11 by fhserge
What kind (brand, manufacturer, specs) of knobs and pots (pot shafts) were used on the paper faced Serge panels built in the early days. The knobs were NOT the Davies which are used for some time now. The pots on my 4 panel Serge system have 2 different sizes in diameter, very sm
for your listening pleasure, hopefully:-)
2008-01-08 by Larky Joe
Hello fellow Serge users! Here's a link to one of my current projects, the "minimal techno" dance music duo known as Spiral Blaster. At the heart of our setup is a six-panel system. http://www.mesmerizationfoundation.com There are some pictures of our performance/setup at: http:/
Re: SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by evetsterueb
Offering this as a possible clue: The SSG was mentioned in a recent post about things that can go wrong. Be careful not to patch outputs to outputs, often you'll get away with it but not always. See http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/message/4726 --- In SergeModula
Re: SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by legion01x
Thanks to everyone for the quick and thorough suggestions. I think my fears are realized as none of these patches with a trigger or noise or anything seem to have any effect on the Stepped section nor do the knob do anything even when I go out the coupler output (The knobs modula
Re: SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by matthew carpenter
Hi, Try this: Patch white noise to Stepped IN and a DTG or DSG in Cycle mode (or with TRIG patched to GATE) to Stepped SAMPLE. Stepped RATE knob should be fully clockwise. Now the light should be blinking! Matt On 1/6/08, legion01x legionhwp@... > wrote: I am trying to use the Sm
Re: SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by Kim Hansen
try this: set up an osc so you can hear it patch stepped out to 1v/oct of osc turn rate knob fully clockwise patch a varying voltage to in on the ssg lower section patch a trigger ( could be gate out on a cycling dtg or dsg ) to sample on the ssg lower section now it should works
Re: SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by tmeade1974
Hi, Take an audio signal, could be the "s/h source" out of the Rand Source, a signal from an osc, or a DTG clocked at audio rates. Anything really, but those are safe bets. Anyhow, take this into the IN jack of the stepped generator. Now take the Gate Out of a DTG and patch that
SSG Operation Question - Help!
2008-01-07 by legion01x
I am trying to use the Smooth stepped generator module and I can't seem to get anything out of the bottom half. I've read the wizardry pages at Egres but am coming up blank. I'll be the first to admit I don't fully understand this module but I can't seem to get any CV or audio ou
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-05 by Steve Ridley
> As the number of modules requiring +6v dwindled it became common > practice to put a small regulator in the panel itself rather than > distribute +6v from the central power supply. It's only a couple bucks > worth of parts and a few milliamps. If I remember right, mine's > moun
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-05 by evetsterueb
As the number of modules requiring +6v dwindled it became common practice to put a small regulator in the panel itself rather than distribute +6v from the central power supply. It's only a couple bucks worth of parts and a few milliamps. If I remember right, mine's mounted to one
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-04 by Bakis Sirros
hello Steve, thanks for the info again. ok, probably you're right in all these, as i am no tech and do not know much about electronics. i had just given the panel to my tech and he built a power supply for it. i know nothing more... i just had the impression that he told me that
WTB SERGE TKB
2008-01-04 by cray5656
looking to buy a tkb PM me if you have one to sell:-)
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-04 by Steve Ridley
> btw, i have a triple comparator module but its > graphics suggest that it must be an early 80's model > (you know, rectangle thin line around the module with > small "serge" letters on bottom). That sounds like it would be from 77-79. All the triple comparators I've seen used t
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-04 by Bakis Sirros
hell steve, ok, thank you! btw, i have a triple comparator module but its graphics suggest that it must be an early 80's model (you know, rectangle thin line around the module with small "serge" letters on bottom). i do not think that it needs 6volts... maybe they changed the tri
Re: pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-04 by Steve Ridley
> do the pre-STS (early 80s I guess, not the vey first > Serge series) serge panels require +12/-12 volts plus > +6 volts supply? AFAIK, the modules using +6v were the first generation ones from around 1973, and they were discontinued around 1980. Modules requiring +6v were: Peak
pre-STS Serge PSU voltages and panel current draw.
2008-01-04 by Bakis Sirros
hello list, do the pre-STS (early 80's i guess, not the vey first serge series) serge panels require +12/-12 volts plus +6volts supply? also what is the current draw per rail (roughly) for each panel? is 1Amp per rail (per panel) enough? or? thank you very much in advance, best r
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2008-01-04 by S V G
The Preamp/Detector that I did graphics for (1977) was configured differently to the XPRE that you refer to. I don't think it had the 'gain adjust'. My brain RAM is a bit fuzzy on it and is starting to generate sparks and smoke. Is this a bad thing? Sorry I can't be of more help
Re: LM 3900 LM 3080
2008-01-03 by (i think you can figure that out)
Digikey also sells the LM3900. That's where I usually get mine. There's a local electronics store here in LA who also stocks them for me. They're Electronic City in Burbank, CA. Ask for John, tell him I suggested you call. I think they have at least 50 presently. If in a pinch, t
Re: LM 3900 LM 3080
2008-01-03 by randaleem
Hi Amnesia, Mouser has the lm3900's and the NTE 3080 equivalent in stock. I found these by going to mouser.com and typing "lm3900", then "CA3080" into the search box at the home page. Jameco also has the 3900's and digi- key probably does as well. The 3080's hgave been discontinu
Re: LM 3090 LM 3080
2008-01-03 by Steve Ridley
>> I cant find 3080's and LM3900s are they called anything else? CA3080, LM3080 LM3900N Make sure you get them in the standard dual in line version (DIL/PDIP). The 3080 has also been made in a round metal can and in surface mount versions. Steve
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-03 by amnesia
> . Lots of CMOS logic in the TKB > what should i get CMOS wise ? > > >
LM 3090 LM 3080
2008-01-03 by amnesia
I cant find 3080's and LM3900s are they called anything else? My stepped doesnt work so would love to fix the problem :-) > >
interview with "fats"
2008-01-03 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : gonna send BaBaWahWah in to interview Rx. Maybe she will return with some definitive answers about what the future holds for STS. Or maybe she'll just return with some new dental work. jd
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-02 by (i think you can figure that out)
Anticipating a question which was just asked of me offline, yes I do have certain Serge Schematics which I acquired for repairing purposes but no, I can't circulate them. They are no more my property than Rex's and there is an ethics issue in play here. When a repair tech receive
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-02 by (i think you can figure that out)
Hi guys. Been awhile since I've posted, here goes: Some comments: Digital ADSRs, any digital technology used for the generation of either sound or control voltages, is no more a slippery slop than analog and does offer options you couldn't come close to realizing otherwise. The k
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2008-01-02 by Steve Ridley
>> Extended Preamp, > Sorry, I was just using your nomenclature. I meant to say the Preamp/detector. There was a module called the Extended Preamp (XPRE) - it appeared in the 1979 catalog, and was different to the preamp Detector. There's a picture in the files section under "79
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-02 by Steve Ridley
> The prospect of digital creeping into the soup. We've seen some other > builders dabble in the arts of zero and one, is he going there? Some > say digital envelope generators are a slippery slope while others say > it matters not one bit. Rex has sensibly avoided making big cha
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-02 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Attachments : Send BaBaWaWa to interview Rex? LMAO!! now there's a hot lick. You might have better luck asking Rex to give a five year weather forecast. You might get him to expound on Fats Domino and the birth of jump blues or maybe he might wax profound on the value of melting
Re: Past Present Future ?
2008-01-01 by Fernando de Izuzquiza
> Add your question to the thread. This is my question to Rex: Will 2008 be the year in wich all Serge schematics will see the light? Thank you Fernando, from Tumbuktu > Rex, to his credit, is not one to put > out a lot of pre-release hype about things he's not committed to. But,
Serge panel graphics timeline (was Re: used serge panel price/timeli
2008-01-01 by Fernando de Izuzquiza
very interesting and amusing, thank you (and agree, > + interesting than the price discussion) best wishes for 2008 and beyond to all ! fernando
Past Present Future ?
2008-01-01 by evetsterueb
The thread about prices for used panels morphed into a fascinating trip down memory lane back to late 70's when the Serge system gelled into more or less what it is today. Great stuff. Now that we've got that thread of informed reflection under out belts and have arrived at day o
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2007-12-31 by S V G
> My first task was to layout the graphics for the newer modules. It was between the two. I'm guessing that modules like the NTO hadn't been sold before I got there, cause there weren't any faceplate graphics yet... Serge was moving away from the old style (which he really loved)
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2007-12-31 by Bob Hearn
I'm listening too; I just haven't contributed to the list lately. Bob Hearn (w/ 7-panel STS Serge) On Dec 31, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Ken Stone wrote: > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , S V G wrote: > > > Gawd, this must sound incredibly boring to all but one or two > here... mea
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2007-12-31 by Ken Stone
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , S V G wrote: > Gawd, this must sound incredibly boring to all but one or two here... mea culpa!!! > There are at least two people who definitely are not bored with all this history. :) I do know of one system that has a delayline module that
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2007-12-30 by Steve Ridley
> We had just made the switch to the 8 hole panels before I was hired on in July of 1977. The > holes were cut with both 8 and 6 hole patterns so that a combination of new and old modules could > be mounted. That's one of the things that confuses the timeline. Serge would sometim
Re: New Prices Again...
2007-12-30 by Les Mizzell
> TKB? Whoops - typo! 7. TAK = TKB > 2007/12/30, Les Mizzell lesmizz@... > lesmizz@... >>: > > Since Rex is now selling only a certain number of pre-configured panels, > do the prices of individual modules mean anything anyway? > > Wouldn't he be listing complete panel prices? >
Re: New Prices Again...
2007-12-30 by JB
TKB? 2007/12/30, Les Mizzell lesmizz@... >: Since Rex is now selling only a certain number of pre-configured panels, do the prices of individual modules mean anything anyway? Wouldn't he be listing complete panel prices? Is this the complete available panel list at this point in
New Prices Again...
2007-12-30 by Les Mizzell
Since Rex is now selling only a certain number of pre-configured panels, do the prices of individual modules mean anything anyway? Wouldn't he be listing complete panel prices? Is this the complete available panel list at this point in time? 1. Touch Envelope Voltage Source 2. Re
Re: used serge panel price/timeline?
2007-12-30 by S V G
>>>I think some of the 8pot/banana modules were advertised in >>>Synapse from 1977, so that ties in. We had just made the switch to the 8 hole panels before I was hired on in July of 1977. The holes were cut with both 8 and 6 hole patterns so that a combination of new and old mod
FS: PS4 Like New
2007-12-30 by matthew carpenter
$400 or trade toward like-new PS6. PayPal accepted. Thanks!
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-30 by Les Mizzell
> Is an Egres Price List update in order? It's the most current one I've been given, but it's a year or three old. If somebody (Rex?) will send me a new list - plus a list of now available panels, I'll happily update the site. Les
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-30 by John Loffink
Is an Egres Price List update in order? John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.wavemakers-synth.com -----Original Message----- From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SergeModular@yahoog
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by matthew carpenter
Prices have indeed gone up since then. On 12/29/07, John Loffink jloffink@... > wrote: TKB was US$1850 + US$400 or $2250 total, per the last price list from 2004. I guess prices have gone up a bit since then? John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-sy
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by John Loffink
TKB was US$1850 + US$400 or $2250 total, per the last price list from 2004. I guess prices have gone up a bit since then? John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site http://www.wavemakers-synth.com > -----
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by Chris Sawyer
Remember that for a TKB, you have to add a BOX ($400) or ROX ($450) to the "module" price of $1950, which would explain the price Rex quoted you. Rex may indeed have his favorite folks, but I don't think those people receive preferential pricing! amnesia wrote: > TKB isn't even $
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by Chris Sawyer
Remember that for a TKB, you have to add a BOX ($400) or ROX ($450) to the "module" price of $1950, which would explain the price Rex quoted you. Rex may indeed have his favorite folks, but I don't think those people receive preferential pricing! amnesia wrote: > TKB isn't even $
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by amnesia
> TKB isn't even $2000 new now????????????? > i just got quoted $2400 for a new TKB......i hope Rex isn't playing favourites > > >
Re: used serge panel price?
2007-12-29 by legion01x
> All in all I am very happy that most people think $2k is a minimum per panel! I am not looking to sell or buy, but I am very happy with my investment (I paid $1800 for 6 panels maybe 15 years ago ;-) ) heh :) > But the price is what they sell for and a very nice 4 panel system