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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-15 by Peter Grenader

kirkdegiorgio wrote: > Peter G has even suggested that my house is haunted! LOL! well - he DID say the problems started shortly after moving into the house. I mean, it's OBVIOUS at that point, ain't it?

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-15 by kirkdegiorgio

sorry - no need to apologise... I've still got my sense of humour (just!) - but you can see just how utterly frustrating the whole thing has been... and Fed Ex have just taken my frustration to its limits... Peter G has even suggested that my house is haunted! LOL! I do seem to h

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-15 by John P

It's easy to make light of somebody else's trouble... my apologies..... kirkdegiorgio wrote: >you'll forgive me if I don't roll around with laughter at the >lighthearted comments! > >KD > > > >

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-15 by Peter Grenader

kirkdegiorgio wrote: > but although the PCO no longer > warbles all over the place it does drift significantly more than the > NTO/PCO's on my other panels ( it drifted flat 1 whole semitone > over a week - whilst the other NTO/PCO's were still accurate during > the same period)

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-15 by kirkdegiorgio

If it wasn't so frustrating I'd be seeing the funny side of it too... I can assure you the problems are not thru any misuse. I've never gigged with my Serge and its in a non-smoking home studio environment. It is a mystery but I am clutching at 1 theory as to how 2 of my panels h

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New Pictures Uploaded

2004-06-14 by derwskee

Hi, I have posted a couple of pictures of my small Serge system, "Drews Noize Box" in the Photos section and uploaded a description of the system in the Files section. All under "Drews Noize Box". -Andrew

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New file uploaded to SergeModular

2004-06-14 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /Drews Noize Box.doc Uploaded by : derwskee synpro@... > Description : Info on Drews Noize Box You can access this file at the URL http://

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Free Drum Samples

2004-06-10 by MPC@beatsamples.com

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-10 by S V G

No, it was just those damn knives... > I don't suppose 'playing' the Serge with rubber mallets has anything to > do with it..... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-10 by John P

I don't suppose 'playing' the Serge with rubber mallets has anything to do with it..... Bill Sequeira wrote: >Glad to hear that the panel is fixed. > >Never heard of such a large systemic failure - what do you think was the >reason for such situation? > >Regards, > >Bill >_______

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-10 by Bill Sequeira

Glad to hear that the panel is fixed. Never heard of such a large systemic failure - what do you think was the reason for such situation? Regards, Bill ______________________________________________________________________ Bill Sequeira, Ph.D. Principal, Axon Hillock > From: "kir

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-10 by Ken Stone

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "Scott E." wrote: > I have never heard of the "Driscoll" modules. Were these functional > copies or licensed clones? Please elaborate. > > Thanks, Scott E. Functional copies, and in a number of cases direct rip-offs of Serge. They were allege

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Re: So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-09 by kirkdegiorgio

Hi John sorry - only just checked the archives... yes - the panel is functioning fine now. I'm waiting for a detailed report of the fixes from Rex, but from my discussions with Kevin Fortune it seems the PCO problem was a 'chip & socket' issue. No more details on what that exactl

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by Scott E.

I have never heard of the "Driscoll" modules. Were these functional copies or licensed clones? Please elaborate. Thanks, Scott E. =================================================== Ken Stone wrote: > That sounds like the circuit I reverse engineered from my DRISCOLL > NTO - it i

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by Peter Grenader

Probably not. The schematic I had has been mentioned here - so possibly it ain't the real deal. I've got a four panel coming over in a couple of weeks. It's got three NTOs and it's old (paper faceplates). I'll have a look .Steve Ridley wrote: > >> Now who knows if this schematic

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by John Loffink

Think about it. How could you create a variable pulse from 40 to 90% just by crossfading two waveforms no matter what their phase relationship was? From your description, it does sound like the NTO variable waveshape circuit has changed. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web

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New file uploaded to SergeModular

2004-06-09 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /nto_board2schem.gif Uploaded by : cg_synth sasami@... > Description : DRISCOLL version of NTO wave shapers You can access this file at th

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by Ken Stone

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Peter Grenader > I can't post the schematic. But from the one I have, it sure looks like a > crossfader to me. Put it this way...the waveshape circuit has four inputs. > Sine, pulse, saw, tri - those come from the non-variable outs of each of

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by Steve Ridley

> Now who knows if this schematic is correct. I didn't have to repair this > function of the NTO and did not 'test' this part of the diagram - but I did > use it to repair another section of the VCO and it proved accurate. I've never seen a schematic of the NTO waveshaper, but I'

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by Peter Grenader

John Loffink wrote: > It does not create a stairstep in the intermediate > position as you would get by crossfading square and pulse waveforms. > > What was the vintage of the NTO you repaired? First gen I would assume - it was in the system Darrel made for himself. Late 70's- ea

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-09 by John Loffink

On my NTO, sine and triangle are 180 degrees out of phase with one another. This could just be from an extra inverting op amp in the circuit. The sawtooth edge coincides with the peak of the sine wave, where the slight discontinuity is seen. Sine and sawtooth position on the vari

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by Peter Grenader

Steve Ridley wrote: > Can't remember if the > Sine out and NTO Variable out set to sine have the same > phase. I belivee they would be - as the variable out is a quad panner in reverse (or so it seems form the unit I had for repair). So it takes the four waveshapes and pans betwe

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by Steve Ridley

> I believe the NTO is saw core, not tri core. This means Serge first had to > shape a triangle, then from that triangle he shaped the sine. Is the saw > and sine out of the PCO/NTOs in the same phase relation? I bet not. One of the catalogues on the SMOG site (the 70s one) shows

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by Mattias Rickardsson

From: "John Loffink" jloffink@... > > >> Since the linear FM inputs are ac coupled, that's all that matters. >> Any oscillator patched into them will have the offset removed. > > True, but ideally you want vibrato at the exponential FM input > so the pitch range is balanced on bo

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So Kirk, what was it?

2004-06-08 by John P

Kirk Degiorgio, if I might ask, is your sad panel happy again? -- m/n/m/l surreal electronic music, sound, noise http://mnml.soulcatcher.net

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by Peter Grenader

John Loffink wrote: > I see a barely noticeable peak/spike at the top of my 2002 era NTO sine wave > outputs. This doesn't seem like it would add much harmonics. The overall > shape is a little more rounded than a sine wave, but this is typical of sine > waves shaped from triangl

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by John Loffink

I see a barely noticeable peak/spike at the top of my 2002 era NTO sine wave outputs. This doesn't seem like it would add much harmonics. The overall shape is a little more rounded than a sine wave, but this is typical of sine waves shaped from triangle waves. If I get a chance I

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

> From: "paradigmshiftbeats" c.d.sawyer@... > >A few questions about this module: > >1) I have read comments about the NTO/PCO not having "pure" sine >waves due to the waveshapers used in these modules. Does the QUO >utilize the same circuits or does it in fact produce true sines

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by John Loffink

That is a good approach if you don't have the QUO. However, I believe the QUO is probably quadrature phase triangle wave based with sine wave shapers on the outputs. When I used the hold function, I noticed the sine wave always resumes where it left off in the cycle, not where it

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by John Loffink

The QUO is especially nice for panning since the Serge panning VCs lack attenuators, while the QUO essentially has them built in. This allows moderate panning effects rather than full left to right panning. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synt

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by John Loffink

I have the QUO. I don't know if it is the same circuit as the Frequency Shifter. The one on the Serge FS that I played with 4 years ago seemed to have a wider range. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-08 by John Loffink

True, but ideally you want vibrato at the exponential FM input so the pitch range is balanced on both high and low cycles, though I suppose for mild vibratos it may not matter. John Loffink The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com The Wavemakers Synth

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by John P

Another side note: for those without the QUO but who have an SSG - the 'Smooth' section can be patched as an oscillator, and 'hold' will stop the waveform in its tracks, just like the QUO... but with the Smooth section you're getting a triangle, not a sinewave. Now, how many othe

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by john duval

Oh yea... been so long since i used that approach, i forgot. Adds its own little dimension doesn't it. You'd think they would be the same but somehow it's just a little different. Kinda like,what flavor is chocolate. kind regards john duval --- Carbon111 carbon111@... > wrote: >

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by john duval

you have it... it just makes it more intense. that's the beauty of it. You can VC the intensity(depth) and you can VC the speed. Now when you combine that feature with the ability to stop the vibrato and the panning at the same time, if things are spinning rather fast, it's a dra

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by John P

Since the linear FM inputs are ac coupled, that's all that matters. Any oscillator patched into them will have the offset removed. metafoetus2002 wrote: >"…hence I have at least 10 [QUOs]…"…now that's a recommendation :-) > >Now are the 2 sine wave outputs bipolar, or unipolar? S

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by Carbon111

> Now are the 2 sine wave outputs bipolar, or unipolar? So if I'd use these f= > > or vibrato, > would my received pitch stay centered (increasing modulation amount just ma= > > kes the > vibrato more intense, but does not shift the perceived center pitch)? Black outputs = AC = B

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by metafoetus2002

" hence I have at least 10 [QUOs] " now that's a recommendation :-) Now are the 2 sine wave outputs bipolar, or unipolar? So if I'd use these f= or vibrato, would my received pitch stay centered (increasing modulation amount just ma= kes the vibrato more intense, but does not shi

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by John P

I don't have one but I believe that it's the same circuit that's used in the frequency shifter. The sine wave has to be very pure for that. I would think that the v/oct would be accurate/useful for most audio & musical applications as well as control. Anybody else? paradigmshiftb

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Re: Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by john duval

I use my QUOs for Xfading, paning and anywhere else that requires a smooth transistion... fast or slow. The VC gain and hold functions are just the thing to stop the swirling in "mid air" so to speak and the gain control is great for controling the voltage swing by making it as s

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Quadrature Oscillator

2004-06-07 by paradigmshiftbeats

A few questions about this module: 1) I have read comments about the NTO/PCO not having "pure" sine waves due to the waveshapers used in these modules. Does the QUO utilize the same circuits or does it in fact produce true sines? 2) Does the 1v/oct tracking function accurately en

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Serge sale down to one panel and reduced price.

2004-06-05 by john duval

This is the one i knew would still be here and i'd like to see it gone. > Panel #4 QVM / XFAD(2) / MAX / QUO(2) > New Hartland price $3360����.Was $1600..... Sell $1300. > > I take cashiers check only. Drawn on a major US > bank. Sales are in > the continental US only. > Don't ha

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Re: What do the Cycle Jacks do on the Smooth/Stepped Generator?

2004-06-02 by john duval

well, the dirt simple answer is: you patch it just like the smooth module... it's a start.After that well, just use your imagination. LOL just be mindfull of those rising edges. regards johnduval --- synpro@... wrote: > I know you can use the Cycle patched to the Input on > the u

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Four Serge panels for sale

2004-06-01 by darkstr717

sorry, forgot the subject field...... duh!!! This is a four panel sale should have been five, and maybe will be later. But for now it's four. The panels are STS Oakland from the late 90's. All are in excellent condition. Price includes shipping and seeing as how I ship overnight

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2004-06-01 by darkstr717

This is a four panel sale should have been five, and maybe will be later. But for now it's four. The panels are STS Oakland from the late 90's. All are in excellent condition. Price includes shipping and seeing as how I ship overnight express that makes these panels even more of

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2004-05-30 by MPC

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Serge sale coming

2004-05-30 by darkstr717

just a little heads up to the brotherhood. After the holiday there will be a panel sale.... four panels for sure, but maybe five. I need to sleep on this for another day or so. So, in case anyone is in the mood to spend some cash or you know of anyone who might be interested, the

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Serge Music CD - sneak preview!

2004-05-27 by John P

Release is a few weeks off... in the meantime here's something for you to look at: http://www.serge-fans.com/serge_CD.htm -- m/n/m/l surreal electronic music, sound, noise http://mnml.soulcatcher.net

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Re: Important News for SergeModular Members

2004-05-26 by john duval

thanks john : ) other lists are being raped and pillaged with this same sort of drivel. kind regards john duval --- John P johnp299792@... > wrote: > Folks ----- > > Sorry about that happy crap. I just changed the > group admission > policy back to 'restricted' from 'open'. > Tha

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