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--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Les Mizzell <lesmizz@b...> wrote:
>
> > I think Im about over the "Photoshopping panels together" phase so
> > you guys dont have to put up with these posts any more.
>
>
> You could have saved yourself hours of Photoshop fun and just used
the
> Serge Panel Planner...
>
> http://www.ticalun.net/sergePlanner/configurator.aspx
>
>
> --
> Les Mizzell

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Carbon111 <carbon111@v...> wrote:
> srmaietta wrote:
> > Yep, thats where I planned them out and got the module images..
Is
> > there a way to save the whole panel as one .jpg?
> > ~Steve
>
> Use the print screen key to do a screen grab then paste the image
into
> your favorite photo app then crop the image and save as a jpg.
> Best Regards, James
> --
> http://www.carbon111.com

> Aaaah well, Ive done it again.. Too much free time this weekend..
> Posted a new pic again (SMserge3.jpg (last one I promise!!) now
> I've goe the TKB and the sequencing panel, plus a 3 channel quad
> output panel.. Its so easy when each panel only costs 20 minutes of
> photoshop time.
> but Im done now. 6 panels is all . . I promise . . . I hope : ) hehe
> Regarding taking the plunge, Ill not have the money for any panels
> for at least 6 months, so this is all I can do until then. Just a
> fun exercise, indulging in this modular urge that started last sunday
> when I was invited to play around at my friends university's
> electronic music lab (big buchla 100, VCS3, MS-20..)
> I think Im about over the "Photoshopping panels together" phase so
> you guys dont have to put up with these posts any more. Although,
> discussions regarding module assortments / intended use / your "art"
> as Rex put it should continue! Why was the triple bi-directional
> router nixed? a question for Rex I guess. It seems like it would be a
> very useful module.
>
> anyone care to post some sound clips to the list?
>
> thanks for your time
> ~SteveM
>
>
>
>
> Keep on Patchin'!
>
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Hi Steve,

Since everyone went off on the jpg/photoshop thread, it seems that any
comments about your configuration have been bypassed. At least, I
believe that you wished for comments since you posted your design to the
forum. I know that this can be a consuming task, particularly with the
Serge system being "set in stone" once the panel is ordered. Please keep
in mind that my comments are not criticism, but an attempt to help in
your endeavor to be pleased with your system once you have the funds to
get one.

First, it is my opinion, that unless one is doing nothing but signal
processing, a TKB is a must and I am glad to see that you added one.
Having said that, I think the system is over "programmed" with
sequencers for the resources. Cut one. You need more oscillators and
manual mixers, IMO. There is too much in the way of control voltage
modules and not enough in the way of sound generation. There is a DUSG,
two DTGs and a Clock. I would replace a DTG or CLOCK with a PCO. Omit
one of the ACPRs and replace with a MIXER. The NCOM looks out of place
at the top right, and would be very useful in the left set of panels.
Perhaps swap it out with ring modulator. I would also place the scaling
buffer nearer to the oscillators.

You should really consider adding a FRS. Expensive, but way cool. Be
sure to put the C/M in the blank space next to it, or the panel space is
wasted. I also think this system is too small for the quad output panel,
but it *is* the only way to get quad panning.

I hope this is some good food for thought for you. Keep in mind that
this is *ONLY* my *OPINION* and your design should fit you style of
synthesis and what you plan for the system. And, FWIW, buy the synth as
soon as you can afford it. Time passes and missed opportunities to
compose are never recaptured.

As far as the router is concerned, I heard that switching audio signals
through the router was unsatisfactory as the audio would "click" and
disturb the sound, not because the module was defective, but depending
no where the waveform would pick up where the other one cut off or where
the waveform began in its cycle. Same thing with control voltages.

BTW, where is the Buchla 100 you got to play with? I cut my teeth on two
of them in the early '70s learning synthesis.

Regards, Scott
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>
> Has anyone experimented with phase relationships and reverb to simulate
> sounds being near/far/behind, etc?? Maybe with headphones this approach
> could be usable.. ?

> I wanted the quad panel because I happen to have a quad amplifier
> and am very interested in recreating "environments" around the
> listener. But, I realize that noone else has quad setups (that
> would be listening to my music) so it may be defeating itself.
> The thought of being able to put sounds all around the listener
> really appeals to me though.. although the $1750 price of the QMX
> may make it simply too much. A $6000 panel! Yeah, we'll stick to
> stereo I guess..

> Oscillators and mixers, yes I need to do a bit of work here..

-------------- Original message --------------
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Steve Maietta
wrote:

> I wanted the quad panel because I happen to have a quad amplifier
> and am very interested in recreating "environments" around the
> listener. But, I realize that noone else has quad setups (that
> would be listening to my music) so it may be defeating itself.
> The thought of being able to put sounds all around the listener
> really appeals to me though.. although the $1750 price of the QMX
> may make it simply too much. A $6000 panel! Yeah, we'll stick to
> stereo I guess..

and

> Oscillators and mixers, yes I need to do a bit of work here..

While I highly recommend the QUO (quadrature osc, Peter) I agree
that you should add at least one Precision VCO to complement the
NTO, even though you have the two ASM oscillators.

As for mixers, here's an option that I think would offer you great
flexibility and even allow for "manual" quad mixing on occasion: get
a Matrix Mixer (4x4) and two Dual Channel Stereo Mixers. This would
take up the same ten spaces you currently have allocated to output
mixing, but you could also use one or more of the mixers intra-patch
instead of at the output stage. (Add another DCSM or UAP and you
could actually achieve VC quad "panning.") Don't forget that you
also have the 2 VCAs on the ASM panel.

As someone who owns a 5 panel (including TKB) system, I also want to
point out that you can get a lot of mileage within a complex patch
from routing one or two DTG/DSG/SSG module outputs to a variety of
destinations, so (as Scott suggested) you can probably lose a CV
source or two in exchange for audio modules that will offer you a
wider sonic palette (another vote for the Frequency Shifter here) or
save you frustration down the road (audio/cv mixers).

Finally, if you closely review your latest revision, this system
includes all of the Sequencer shop panel modules except for the
Boolean Logic. In my view, if you decide to keep both sequencers in
addition to the TKB I would recommend getting the shop panel for
three reasons: 1) it should maintain a higher resale value, 2) the
layout of this shop panel makes a lot of sense, and 3) as you begin
using multiple sequencers you will quickly come to appreciate having
the BLOG. Perhaps other BLOG owners will chime in here?

I will e-mail you separately with a few specific layout suggestions.

Best wishes,

Chris Sawyer




Keep on Patchin'!

> A better (more realistic) challenge would be back to my original
> inquiry of the "Desert Island" system.. ASM plus 2 Serge panels?