If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen
2006-08-08 by cray5656
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2006-08-08 by cray5656
2006-08-08 by John P
> If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would--
> you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
>
> I am looking at
> Plan B model 13 and 15
> Livewire Dual Cyclotron
> Doepfer 149-1 SOU
>
> Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge :-) )
>
>
2006-08-08 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
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From: "cray5656" <amni56@...>
If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would
you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
I am looking at
Plan B model 13 and 15
Livewire Dual Cyclotron
Doepfer 149-1 SOU
Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge :-) )
2006-08-08 by Carbon111
>If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what wouldI would get a good dedicated controller:
>you get to go with the Serge...
2006-08-08 by amnesia
>
> if you already have that much Serge stuff, that's a very broad
> complement of functions.
> you're not lacking in the basics. anything you get would be additional
> stuff.
>
> some things to think about:
> * are you sure you need more stuff? that you've exhausted the
> possibilities and attained mastery of the gear? or are you just bored
> looking at the same things?
>
> * do you need a standard keyboard or midi interfacing?
>
> * how 'bout logic & sequencing items?
>
> cray5656 wrote:
>
> > If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would
> > you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
> >
> > I am looking at
> > Plan B model 13 and 15
> > Livewire Dual Cyclotron
> > Doepfer 149-1 SOU
> >
> > Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge :-) )
> >
> >
>
> --
> m/n/m/l
> surreal electronic music, sound, noise
> http://www.mnmlnoise.com <http://www.mnmlnoise.com>
>
>
2006-08-08 by Carbon111
>The reason why I was asking is that I am sure all of you have just moreNot as far as modulars go.
>than the Serge System.
>The reason why I am looking at Plan B for example is that I will neverYou'll find that much of what you can do on a Buchla is pretty easy on a Serge as well...there's more similarities than differences IMHO - at least compared to other modulars.
>be able to afford a Buchla and their models like the VCO is designed
>very closely to the Buchla sound which I love ( Subotnick etc), so I am
>looking at trying to get Euroracks models that have Buchlaish extras
>that the Serge does not have, just to funk it up a bit.
>I have thought about getting a Midi CV converter to use with my EdirolIts nice to be able to repeat pitches even in Experimental work.
>controller ( that I haven't used for ages) as I am into more
>experimental music, I am constantly changing my mind about whether I
>need a standard keyboard...
>And lastly its a modular synth we are talking about, its hard not to getUnderstood, but when you've got "magic" modules like the DSG that can be patched to do just about anything, other modules start to pale a bit. Most recently I've been using my DSG as an envelope follower and subharmonic generator...
>turned on by new models :-)
2006-08-08 by John P
> HI all--
>
> The reason why I was asking is that I am sure all of you have just more
> than the Serge System.
>
>
>
2006-08-08 by Carbon111
>not me... I've recorded 4 CD's with 3 or 4 panels....Exactly! Its the most potent modular I've ever come across in terms of power/size.
2006-08-09 by epk
HI all
The reason why I was asking is that I am sure all of you have just more
than the Serge System.
The reason why I am looking at Plan B for example is that I will never
be able to afford a Buchla and their models like the VCO is designed
very closely to the Buchla sound which I love ( Subotnick etc), so I am
looking at trying to get Euroracks models that have Buchlaish extras
that the Serge does not have, just to funk it up a bit.
Of course I am not comparing Doepfer to the mighty Serge, but I do have
a cracklebox and a Serge, is that OK with you all ?
I have thought about getting a Midi CV converter to use with my Edirol
controller ( that I haven't used for ages) as I am into more
experimental music, I am constantly changing my mind about whether I
need a standard keyboard...
And lastly its a modular synth we are talking about, its hard not to get
turned on by new models :-)
Ross
John P wrote:
>
> if you already have that much Serge stuff, that's a very broad
> complement of functions.
> you're not lacking in the basics. anything you get would be additional
> stuff.
>
> some things to think about:
> * are you sure you need more stuff? that you've exhausted the
> possibilities and attained mastery of the gear? or are you just bored
> looking at the same things?
>
> * do you need a standard keyboard or midi interfacing?
>
> * how 'bout logic & sequencing items?
>
> cray5656 wrote:
>
> > If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would
> > you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
> >
> > I am looking at
> > Plan B model 13 and 15
> > Livewire Dual Cyclotron
> > Doepfer 149-1 SOU
> >
> > Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge :-) )
> >
> >
>
> --
> m/n/m/l
> surreal electronic music, sound, noise
> http://www.mnmlnoise.com <http://www.mnmlnoise.com>
>
>
2006-08-09 by amnesia
>
> Stick with banana based stuff if you can, it makes integration way
> easier. Consider Modcan stuff as a nice alternative. There are some
> nice filters, the LPG's from Cynthia, and Bruce is working on an
> Audio/CV sampler that sounds like it's going to be awesome. The plan
> B stuff seems cool, but I'd inquire about having them deliver it in
> Serge or Modcan format. You may also want to consider the always cool
> but often overpriced Fenix.
>
>
> For something quite different but cool you may want to consider a
> polysynth if you don't already have one, something like Sunsyn or Omega 8.
>
> Don't get a Kyma.
>
> epk
>
> On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:15 PM, amnesia wrote:
>
>> HI all
>>
>> The reason why I was asking is that I am sure all of you have just more
>> than the Serge System.
>>
>> The reason why I am looking at Plan B for example is that I will never
>> be able to afford a Buchla and their models like the VCO is designed
>> very closely to the Buchla sound which I love ( Subotnick etc), so I am
>> looking at trying to get Euroracks models that have Buchlaish extras
>> that the Serge does not have, just to funk it up a bit.
>>
>> Of course I am not comparing Doepfer to the mighty Serge, but I do have
>> a cracklebox and a Serge, is that OK with you all ?
>>
>> I have thought about getting a Midi CV converter to use with my Edirol
>> controller ( that I haven't used for ages) as I am into more
>> experimental music, I am constantly changing my mind about whether I
>> need a standard keyboard...
>>
>> And lastly its a modular synth we are talking about, its hard not to get
>> turned on by new models :-)
>> Ross
>>
>> John P wrote:
>> >
>> > if you already have that much Serge stuff, that's a very broad
>> > complement of functions.
>> > you're not lacking in the basics. anything you get would be additional
>> > stuff.
>> >
>> > some things to think about:
>> > * are you sure you need more stuff? that you've exhausted the
>> > possibilities and attained mastery of the gear? or are you just bored
>> > looking at the same things?
>> >
>> > * do you need a standard keyboard or midi interfacing?
>> >
>> > * how 'bout logic & sequencing items?
>> >
>> > cray5656 wrote:
>> >
>> > > If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would
>> > > you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
>> > >
>> > > I am looking at
>> > > Plan B model 13 and 15
>> > > Livewire Dual Cyclotron
>> > > Doepfer 149-1 SOU
>> > >
>> > > Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge
>> :-) )
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > m/n/m/l
>> > surreal electronic music, sound, noise
>> > http://www.mnmlnoise.com <http://www.mnmlnoise.com>
>> <http://www.mnmlnoise.com <http://www.mnmlnoise.com>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
2006-08-09 by John P
>--
> Any of course the Serge is all you could ever need, but it cant do what
> some of the Plan B stuff can do, it cant do the Zero osc Cynthia stuff,
> so I feel I have every right to add some other bits to make the Serge
> even more amazing than it already is :-)
>
>
>
2006-08-09 by cray5656
> what's this thing do that makes it worth seven hundred bucks??Isnt it a DX7 on acid? :-)
2006-08-09 by John Loffink
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SergeModular@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of amnesia
> I did think about Modcan and Cynthia and really like them but I found
> the Plan B LPG to be a bit more advanced than the Cynthia ( Im sure
> Peter G made the Cynthia version anyway), I felt a bit uneasy with
2006-08-09 by amnesia
>
> Ken Stone designed the Cynthia LPG.
>
> John Loffink
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com <http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com>
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com <http://www.wavemakers-synth.com>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:SergeModular%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:SergeModular%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of amnesia
>
> > I did think about Modcan and Cynthia and really like them but I found
> > the Plan B LPG to be a bit more advanced than the Cynthia ( Im sure
> > Peter G made the Cynthia version anyway), I felt a bit uneasy with
>
>
2006-08-09 by cray5656
2006-08-09 by legion01x
> If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what wouldWell a few people have answers but here's my couple thousand dollars ...
> you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
2006-08-09 by cray5656
2006-08-09 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
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From: amnesia <amni56@...>
I have owned about 18 analog synths over the last 20 years, sold them
all except my Midi Jupiter 8. Modular was something, until I bought the
Serge, I never considered..
I have too released many albums over the years, and my last one under
name Cray was just laptop audiomulch, but I got fed up with mouse
pushing, and went back to analog.
Kyma seems to be amazing and has had my interest but again that ends up
being computer based.
My plan is to Bananafy all the Eurorack Plan Bs, Livewires anyway, well
I am getting an Aussie synth boffin to do it for me :-) so then I will
have a banana only system anyway :-)
Any of course the Serge is all you could ever need, but it cant do what
some of the Plan B stuff can do, it cant do the Zero osc Cynthia stuff,
so I feel I have every right to add some other bits to make the Serge
even more amazing than it already is :-)
I did think about Modcan and Cynthia and really like them but I found
the Plan B LPG to be a bit more advanced than the Cynthia ( Im sure
Peter G made the Cynthia version anyway), I felt a bit uneasy with
Modcan as there series B seems to be the big push, so didn't want to get
left out in the cold with a Series A...Going back to Cynthia, I must say
her customer response is amazing, she is really helpful, and a Zero Osc
is quite tempting:-) as I guess you all would understand.
I do also intend to buy a Synthi , as I use to own a VCS3 and loved it,
but then I got married and needed a deposit for a home , child etc :-)
Ross
epk wrote:
>
> Stick with banana based stuff if you can, it makes integration way
> easier. Consider Modcan stuff as a nice alternative. There are some
> nice filters, the LPG's from Cynthia, and Bruce is working on an
> Audio/CV sampler that sounds like it's going to be awesome. The plan
> B stuff seems cool, but I'd inquire abo ut having them deliver it in
> Serge or Modcan format. You may also want to consider the always cool
> but often overpriced Fenix.
>
>
> For something quite different but cool you may want to consider a
> polysynth if you don't already have one, something like Sunsyn or Omega 8.
>
> Don't get a Kyma.
>
> epk
>
> On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:15 PM, amnesia wrote:
>
>> HI all
>>
>> The reason why I was asking is that I am sure all of you have just more
>> than the Serge System.
>>
>> The reason why I am looking at Plan B for example is that I will never
>> be able to afford a Buchla and their models like the VCO is designed
>> very closely to the Buchla sound which I love ( Subotnick etc), so I am
>> looking at trying to get Euroracks models that have Buchlaish extras
>> that the Serge does not have, just to funk it up a b it.
>>
>> Of course I am not comparing Doepfer to the mighty Serge, but I do have
>> a cracklebox and a Serge, is that OK with you all ?
>>
>> I have thought about getting a Midi CV converter to use with my Edirol
>> controller ( that I haven't used for ages) as I am into more
>> experimental music, I am constantly changing my mind about whether I
>> need a standard keyboard...
>>
>> And lastly its a modular synth we are talking about, its hard not to get
>> turned on by new models :-)
>> Ross
>>
>> John P wrote:
>> >
>> > if you already have that much Serge stuff, that's a very broad
>> > complement of functions.
>> > you're not lacking in the basics. anything you get would be additional
>> > stuff.
>> >
>> > some things to think about:
>> > * are you sure you ne ed more stuff? that you've exhausted the
>> > possibilities and attained mastery of the gear? or are you just bored
>> > looking at the same things?
>> >
>> > * do you need a standard keyboard or midi interfacing?
>> >
>> > * how 'bout logic & sequencing items?
>> >
>> > cray5656 wrote:
>> >
>> > > If you already owned a Serge Blue Station and Soup Kitchen what would
>> > > you get to go with the Serge in Eurorack format.
>> > >
>> > > I am looking at
>> > > Plan B model 13 and 15
>> > > Livewire Dual Cyclotron
>> > > Doepfer 149-1 SOU
>> > >
>> > > Love to know what you would add to the list ( dont say more Serge
>> :-) )
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > m/n/m/l
>> > surreal electronic music, sound, noise
>> > http://www.mnmlnois e.com <http://www.mnmlnois e.com>
>> <http://www.mnmlnois e.com <http://www.mnmlnois e.com>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
2006-08-10 by John P
> I read the specs on the zeroscillator and it looks interesting.--
> But the mp3's really don't say anything new for me.
> what's this thing do that makes it worth seven hundred bucks??
>
> amnesia wrote:
>
> >
> > Any of course the Serge is all you could ever need, but it cant do what
> > some of the Plan B stuff can do, it cant do the Zero osc Cynthia stuff,
> > so I feel I have every right to add some other bits to make the Serge
> > even more amazing than it already is :-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
>
>
2006-08-10 by sydilaxe
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John P <johnp299792@...> wrote:
>
> REALLY, folks.
> I'd like to see somebody shed some light on this zeroscillator thing.
> Andybody got one? Can you describe it in technical detail or upload
some
> unsweetened illustrative sound clips?
>
> John P wrote:
>
> > I read the specs on the zeroscillator and it looks interesting.
> > But the mp3's really don't say anything new for me.
> > what's this thing do that makes it worth seven hundred bucks??
> >
> > amnesia wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Any of course the Serge is all you could ever need, but it cant
do what
> > > some of the Plan B stuff can do, it cant do the Zero osc Cynthia
stuff,
> > > so I feel I have every right to add some other bits to make the
Serge
> > > even more amazing than it already is :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> m/n/m/l
> surreal electronic music, sound, noise
> http://www.mnmlnoise.com
>
2006-08-10 by Ken Stone
>Nope. Peter G designed it. I just did the PCB for it. I think it has
> Ken Stone designed the Cynthia LPG.
>