SergeModular

>
> Hi,
>
> I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4 Stage Sequencer

> [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the Pulse Divider [PDIV]

> like to know if anyone's discovered a way of chaining the two rows

> 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step sequence.
>
> Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm trying various patches
> incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's not quite happening.
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>

On 3/14/08, kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:

OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own one, but here is
a workaround I think should work:

- route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
- apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main clock to the VC In
of the X-fader.
- The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1 cycle of A and 1
cycle of B.

Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8 clock speed. Seems
you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H unit.

Pure speculation until I get my system, of course ...

Kinkrot

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter"

<matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4 Stage Sequencer
Programmer
> [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the Pulse Divider [PDIV]
but I'd
> like to know if anyone's discovered a way of chaining the two rows
of the
> 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step sequence.
>
> Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm trying various patches
> incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's not quite happening.
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>

>
> OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own
> one, but here is
> a workaround I think should work:
>
> - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
> - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main
> clock to the VC In
> of the X-fader.
> - The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1
> cycle of A and 1
> cycle of B.
>
> Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8
> clock speed. Seems
> you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H
> unit.
>
> Pure speculation until I get my system, of course
> ...
>
> Kinkrot
>
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew
> carpenter"
> <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4
> Stage Sequencer
> Programmer
> > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> but I'd
> > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> chaining the two rows
> of the
> > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> sequence.
> >
> > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> trying various patches
> > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's
> not quite happening.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Matt
> >
>
>
>

On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse divider
module) the clocking pulse that will clock the 2x18
sequencer...
and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock speed.

--- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:

>
> OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own
> one, but here is
> a workaround I think should work:
>
> - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
> - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main
> clock to the VC In
> of the X-fader.
> - The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1
> cycle of A and 1
> cycle of B.
>
> Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8
> clock speed. Seems
> you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H
> unit.
>
> Pure speculation until I get my system, of course
> ...
>
> Kinkrot
>
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew
> carpenter"
> <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4
> Stage Sequencer
> Programmer
> > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> but I'd
> > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> chaining the two rows
> of the
> > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> sequence.
> >
> > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> trying various patches
> > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's
> not quite happening.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Matt
> >
>
>
>

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> Can you explain this? The 1/8 clock pulse still goes
> to the ACPR or XFAD VC
> IN? If you can, try it on your system...
> I remember the original post about chaining two rows
> of the 4 Stage SQP
> together using the / 8 output of the PDIV. The
> original poster was surprised
> that this would be the case but it works. For
> chaining two rows of the 8x2,
> the / 8 output causes the sequence to switch
> half-way, i.e., after 4 steps,
> not 8.
>
> On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse
> divider
> > module) the clocking pulse that will clock the
> 2x18
> > sequencer...
> > and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock
> speed.
> >
> >
> > --- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...
> <kkonkkrete%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually
> own
> > > one, but here is
> > > a workaround I think should work:
> > >
> > > - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC
> X-fader
> > > - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the
> main
> > > clock to the VC In
> > > of the X-fader.
> > > - The out of the X-fader will alternate between
> 1
> > > cycle of A and 1
> > > cycle of B.
> > >
> > > Now the question is how to get a square wave at
> 1/8
> > > clock speed. Seems
> > > you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an
> S&H
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Pure speculation until I get my system, of
> course
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Kinkrot
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> <SergeModular%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "matthew
> > > carpenter"
> > > <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the
> 4
> > > Stage Sequencer
> > > Programmer
> > > > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> > > Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> > > but I'd
> > > > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> > > chaining the two rows
> > > of the
> > > > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> > > trying various patches
> > > > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but
> it's
> > > not quite happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

yes, you are probably right.
i still do not have a serge pulse divider to be sure
really.
i will have one soon though... and i do not have an
Xfad serge module yet, (soon i'll have this too)
so, i cannot try the patch...

--- matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
wrote:

> Can you explain this? The 1/8 clock pulse still goes
> to the ACPR or XFAD VC
> IN? If you can, try it on your system...
> I remember the original post about chaining two rows
> of the 4 Stage SQP
> together using the / 8 output of the PDIV. The
> original poster was surprised
> that this would be the case but it works. For
> chaining two rows of the 8x2,
> the / 8 output causes the sequence to switch
> half-way, i.e., after 4 steps,
> not 8.
>
> On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse
> divider
> > module) the clocking pulse that will clock the
> 2x18
> > sequencer...
> > and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock
> speed.
> >
> >
> > --- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...

> <kkonkkrete%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually
> own
> > > one, but here is
> > > a workaround I think should work:
> > >
> > > - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC
> X-fader
> > > - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the
> main
> > > clock to the VC In
> > > of the X-fader.
> > > - The out of the X-fader will alternate between
> 1
> > > cycle of A and 1
> > > cycle of B.
> > >
> > > Now the question is how to get a square wave at
> 1/8
> > > clock speed. Seems
> > > you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an
> S&H
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Pure speculation until I get my system, of
> course
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Kinkrot
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com

> <SergeModular%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "matthew
> > > carpenter"
> > > <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the
> 4
> > > Stage Sequencer
> > > Programmer
> > > > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> > > Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> > > but I'd
> > > > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> > > chaining the two rows
> > > of the
> > > > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> > > trying various patches
> > > > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but
> it's
> > > not quite happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

yes, you are probably right.
i still do not have a serge pulse divider to be sure
really.
i will have one soon though... and i do not have an
Xfad serge module yet, (soon i'll have this too)
so, i cannot try the patch...

--- matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
wrote:

> Can you explain this? The 1/8 clock pulse still goes
> to the ACPR or XFAD VC
> IN? If you can, try it on your system...
> I remember the original post about chaining two rows
> of the 4 Stage SQP
> together using the / 8 output of the PDIV. The
> original poster was surprised
> that this would be the case but it works. For
> chaining two rows of the 8x2,
> the / 8 output causes the sequence to switch
> half-way, i.e., after 4 steps,
> not 8.
>
> On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse
> divider
> > module) the clocking pulse that will clock the
> 2x18
> > sequencer...
> > and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock
> speed.
> >
> >
> > --- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...

> <kkonkkrete%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually
> own
> > > one, but here is
> > > a workaround I think should work:
> > >
> > > - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC
> X-fader
> > > - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the
> main
> > > clock to the VC In
> > > of the X-fader.
> > > - The out of the X-fader will alternate between
> 1
> > > cycle of A and 1
> > > cycle of B.
> > >
> > > Now the question is how to get a square wave at
> 1/8
> > > clock speed. Seems
> > > you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an
> S&H
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Pure speculation until I get my system, of
> course
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Kinkrot
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com

> <SergeModular%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "matthew
> > > carpenter"
> > > <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the
> 4
> > > Stage Sequencer
> > > Programmer
> > > > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> > > Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> > > but I'd
> > > > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> > > chaining the two rows
> > > of the
> > > > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> > > trying various patches
> > > > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but
> it's
> > > not quite happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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From: matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:59:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: Making a 16-step sequence with the 8x2 Sequencer

Chris S., are you following this? I was wondering if you had any insights.
I know you enjoy the sequencers quite a bit.

Matt

On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com> wrote:

yes, you are probably right.
i still do not have a serge pulse divider to be sure
really.
i will have one soon though... and i do not have an
Xfad serge module yet, (soon i'll have this too)
so, i cannot try the patch...

--- matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@ gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you explain this? The 1/8 clock pulse still goes
> to the ACPR or XFAD VC
> IN? If you can, try it on your system...
> I remember the original post about chaining two rows
> of the 4 Stage SQP
> together using the / 8 output of the PDIV. The
> original poster was surprised
> that this would be the case but it works. For
> chaining two rows of the 8x2,
> the / 8 output causes the sequence to switch
> half-way, i.e., after 4 steps,
> not 8.
>
> On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > ...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse
> divider
> > module) the clocking pulse that will clock the
> 2x18
> > sequencer...
> > and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock
> speed.
> >
> >
> > --- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@yahoo. co.uk

> <kkonkkrete%40yahoo. co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually
> own
> > > one, but here is
> > > a workaround I think should work:
> > >
> > > - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC
> X-fader
> > > - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the
> main
> > > clock to the VC In
> > > of the X-fader.
> > > - The out of the X-fader will alternate between
> 1
> > > cycle of A and 1
> > > cycle of B.
> > >
> > > Now the question is how to get a square wave at
> 1/8
> > > clock speed. Seems
> > > you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an
> S&H
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Pure speculation until I get my system, of
> course
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Kinkrot
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com

> <SergeModular% 40yahoogroups. com>,

> > "matthew
> > > carpenter"
> > > <matfhew.carpenfer@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the
> 4
> > > Stage Sequencer
> > > Programmer
> > > > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> > > Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> > > but I'd
> > > > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> > > chaining the two rows
> > > of the
> > > > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> > > trying various patches
> > > > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but
> it's
> > > not quite happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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From: matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:59:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: Making a 16-step sequence with the 8x2 Sequencer

Chris S., are you following this? I was wondering if you had any insights.
I know you enjoy the sequencers quite a bit.

Matt

On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com> wrote:

yes, you are probably right.
i still do not have a serge pulse divider to be sure
really.
i will have one soon though... and i do not have an
Xfad serge module yet, (soon i'll have this too)
so, i cannot try the patch...

--- matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@ gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you explain this? The 1/8 clock pulse still goes
> to the ACPR or XFAD VC
> IN? If you can, try it on your system...
> I remember the original post about chaining two rows
> of the 4 Stage SQP
> together using the / 8 output of the PDIV. The
> original poster was surprised
> that this would be the case but it works. For
> chaining two rows of the 8x2,
> the / 8 output causes the sequence to switch
> half-way, i.e., after 4 steps,
> not 8.
>
> On 3/14/08, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > ...just mult and divide by 8 (via the pulse
> divider
> > module) the clocking pulse that will clock the
> 2x18
> > sequencer...
> > and you got your gate out at 1/8 of the clock
> speed.
> >
> >
> > --- kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@yahoo. co.uk

> <kkonkkrete%40yahoo. co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually
> own
> > > one, but here is
> > > a workaround I think should work:
> > >
> > > - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC
> X-fader
> > > - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the
> main
> > > clock to the VC In
> > > of the X-fader.
> > > - The out of the X-fader will alternate between
> 1
> > > cycle of A and 1
> > > cycle of B.
> > >
> > > Now the question is how to get a square wave at
> 1/8
> > > clock speed. Seems
> > > you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an
> S&H
> > > unit.
> > >
> > > Pure speculation until I get my system, of
> course
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Kinkrot
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com

> <SergeModular% 40yahoogroups. com>,

> > "matthew
> > > carpenter"
> > > <matfhew.carpenfer@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the
> 4
> > > Stage Sequencer
> > > Programmer
> > > > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the
> > > Pulse Divider [PDIV]
> > > but I'd
> > > > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of
> > > chaining the two rows
> > > of the
> > > > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step
> > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm
> > > trying various patches
> > > > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but
> it's
> > > not quite happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:44 PM, matthew carpenter wrote:

> Thanks! It's funny... I tried that... and that's exactly how you do it
> with the SQP for making an 8 step sequence out of two rows of 4. (I
> use an ACPR rather than an XFAD). In that case, you actually need to
> use the / 8 output not the / 4.
>
> If I use 1/8 the freq. of the main clock for the 8x2 Sequencer, it
> jumps to row B after only 4 steps. I either need another PDIV (to
> divide by 2, again) or some other way of effectively dividing the
> clock. I have tried my NCOM, DTGs, and VC Clock but it doesn't seem to
> work quite as perfectly as the PDIV.
>
> I hadn't thought about using a S&H but I was playing with my, NCOM,
> Dual Schmitt Triggers and BLOG and, while not achieving the results I
> was aiming for, I came across numerous other cool tricks!
>
> Matt
>
> On 3/14/08, kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:
>> OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own one, but here is
>> a workaround I think should work:
>>
>> - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
>> - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main clock to the VC In
>> of the X-fader.
>> - The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1 cycle of A and 1
>> cycle of B.
>>
>> Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8 clock speed.
>> Seems
>> you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H unit.
>>
>> Pure speculation until I get my system, of course ...
>>
>> Kinkrot
>>
>> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter"
>>
>> <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4 Stage Sequencer
>> Programmer
>> > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the Pulse Divider [PDIV]
>> but I'd
>> > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of chaining the two rows
>> of the
>> > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step sequence.
>> >
>> > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm trying various
>> patches
>> > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's not quite
>> happening.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Matt
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

On 3/15/08, Kim Hansen <kimgh@...> wrote:

The way i make a 16 step out of my SEQ is
to feed the gate from a DTG both to the SEQ clock input and into the
+in input of my NCOM
the NCOM is set to divide by 2
Then i patch output of NCOM into my PDIV and use the 1/8 output to
switch the ACPR

Kim

On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:44 PM, matthew carpenter wrote:

> Thanks! It's funny... I tried that... and that's exactly how you do it
> with the SQP for making an 8 step sequence out of two rows of 4. (I
> use an ACPR rather than an XFAD). In that case, you actually need to
> use the / 8 output not the / 4.
>
> If I use 1/8 the freq. of the main clock for the 8x2 Sequencer, it
> jumps to row B after only 4 steps. I either need another PDIV (to
> divide by 2, again) or some other way of effectively dividing the
> clock. I have tried my NCOM, DTGs, and VC Clock but it doesn't seem to
> work quite as perfectly as the PDIV.
>
> I hadn't thought about using a S&H but I was playing with my, NCOM,
> Dual Schmitt Triggers and BLOG and, while not achieving the results I
> was aiming for, I came across numerous other cool tricks!
>
> Matt

>
> On 3/14/08, kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:
>> OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own one, but here is
>> a workaround I think should work:
>>
>> - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
>> - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main clock to the VC In
>> of the X-fader.
>> - The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1 cycle of A and 1
>> cycle of B.
>>
>> Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8 clock speed.
>> Seems
>> you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H unit.
>>
>> Pure speculation until I get my system, of course ...
>>
>> Kinkrot
>>

>> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter"

>>
>> <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4 Stage Sequencer
>> Programmer
>> > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the Pulse Divider [PDIV]
>> but I'd
>> > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of chaining the two rows
>> of the
>> > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step sequence.
>> >
>> > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm trying various
>> patches
>> > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's not quite
>> happening.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Matt
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

On 3/15/08, matthew carpenter <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:

Ah, I'll have to try that!

What I'd been doing before this was using the NCOM after the PDIV rather than the PDIV after the NCOM.

Thanks,
Matt

On 3/15/08, Kim Hansen <kimgh@...> wrote:

The way i make a 16 step out of my SEQ is
to feed the gate from a DTG both to the SEQ clock input and into the
+in input of my NCOM
the NCOM is set to divide by 2
Then i patch output of NCOM into my PDIV and use the 1/8 output to
switch the ACPR

Kim

On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:44 PM, matthew carpenter wrote:

> Thanks! It's funny... I tried that... and that's exactly how you do it
> with the SQP for making an 8 step sequence out of two rows of 4. (I
> use an ACPR rather than an XFAD). In that case, you actually need to
> use the / 8 output not the / 4.
>
> If I use 1/8 the freq. of the main clock for the 8x2 Sequencer, it
> jumps to row B after only 4 steps. I either need another PDIV (to
> divide by 2, again) or some other way of effectively dividing the
> clock. I have tried my NCOM, DTGs, and VC Clock but it doesn't seem to
> work quite as perfectly as the PDIV.
>
> I hadn't thought about using a S&H but I was playing with my, NCOM,
> Dual Schmitt Triggers and BLOG and, while not achieving the results I
> was aiming for, I came across numerous other cool tricks!
>
> Matt

>
> On 3/14/08, kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:
>> OK, this is a bit of a guess as I don't actually own one, but here is
>> a workaround I think should work:
>>
>> - route A and B outs to the two ins of a VC X-fader
>> - apply a square wave at 1/8 the freq of the main clock to the VC In
>> of the X-fader.
>> - The out of the X-fader will alternate between 1 cycle of A and 1
>> cycle of B.
>>
>> Now the question is how to get a square wave at 1/8 clock speed.
>> Seems
>> you should be able to do this with a PDIV and an S&H unit.
>>
>> Pure speculation until I get my system, of course ...
>>
>> Kinkrot
>>

>> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter"

>>
>> <matfhew.carpenfer@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I know how to make an 8 step sequence with the 4 Stage Sequencer
>> Programmer
>> > [SQP] using an Active Processor [ACPR] and the Pulse Divider [PDIV]
>> but I'd
>> > like to know if anyone's discovered a way of chaining the two rows
>> of the
>> > 8x2 Sequencer [SEQ] to make a single 16-step sequence.
>> >
>> > Since the [SEQ] doesn't have GATE OUTPUTs, I'm trying various
>> patches
>> > incorporating the Schmitt Triggers [STR] but it's not quite
>> happening.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Matt
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM, johnrichoux <jrichoux@...> wrote:

Hi Matt

I was interested in this question and finally got around to testing it myself. I found that I
can make a 16 step sequence out of the 8x2 by simply applying the same clock (DTG gate)
to both the SEQ and the ACPR. With each pulse, it switches from A to B, then the SEQ
advances one stage. The DTG gate has to be as square as you can get it. (Wish I had a VC
Clock module)

However, using this method to control pitch, I get a significant warble. It is less noticeable
using the method suggested earlier, as the crossfade happens only once, but with this
method it happens 8 times. I have the ACPR set full left. Even when the SEQ is preset to
the last stage, and both A & B are set to zero, there is a distinct pitch shift.

The warble is even more pronounced when I run the clock thru the PDIV. The greater the
division, more warble.

I have run into similar pitch accuracy problems with the ACPR before. I have ACPR's on
another panel, I should test with those.

Thanks for raising the question
John Richoux

>
> Hi John,
> I had the same experience with all of my ACPRs, actually, and determined
> that it was helpful to 'buffer' the pitch CV by putting it through the INV
> section of the ACPR first. It took me awhile to narrow it down to the ACPR,
> though, as I thought it involved the PDIV and BLOG, but Rex said it's
> basically normal and suggested the 'fix' I just mentioned.
> Thanks for continuing the discussion. I can't recall if I've tried your
> particular technique. I'll patch it up today...
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM, johnrichoux <jrichoux@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Matt
> >
> > I was interested in this question and finally got around to testing it
> > myself. I found that I
> > can make a 16 step sequence out of the 8x2 by simply applying the same
> > clock (DTG gate)
> > to both the SEQ and the ACPR. With each pulse, it switches from A to B,
> > then the SEQ
> > advances one stage. The DTG gate has to be as square as you can get it.
> > (Wish I had a VC
> > Clock module)
> >
> > However, using this method to control pitch, I get a significant warble. It
> > is less noticeable
> > using the method suggested earlier, as the crossfade happens only once, but
> > with this
> > method it happens 8 times. I have the ACPR set full left. Even when the SEQ
> > is preset to
> > the last stage, and both A & B are set to zero, there is a distinct pitch
> > shift.
> >
> > The warble is even more pronounced when I run the clock thru the PDIV. The
> > greater the
> > division, more warble.
> >
> > I have run into similar pitch accuracy problems with the ACPR before. I
> > have ACPR's on
> > another panel, I should test with those.
> >
> > Thanks for raising the question
> > John Richoux
> >
> >
> >
>

On 6/17/08, johnrichoux <jrichoux@...> wrote:

Hi Matt
I'm not sure I understand the fix you suggest, unless you were having a different problem.
Is what you are saying is patch the ACPR to the INV then to the PCO?

What I am experiencing is best demonstrated by this simple patch: With nothing
connected to the ACPR, patch its output to the 1V/oct of a PCO. Then sweep the xfade
control from 1 to 2. I get an arc of pitch change - 0 at either extreme, but about 1/2 step
sharp at 12:00.

When a square wave (gate) is applied to the VC xfade the results are not what I would
expect. With offset on "1", there is a bit of warble in time with the gate. At 12:00 it
becomes a whole step interval, and at "2" declines to a little less than a 1/2 step.

Patching the INV in between only raises and lowers the overall pitch. That was a helpful
tip, though. It seems that certain cv processors come with a certain bias of + or - that
would be corrected more easily this way. Thanks for that. But maybe you had a different
patch in mind.

Let me know what you think of the 2x8 patch. I've had fun setting pitches in pairs,
working from the bottom up, changing the reset point for different lengths. Incorporating
the PDIV to alter the xfade relationship to the clock yields interesting results. (As always in
Serge-Speak: interesting=fun)

Thanks for the feedback
John R.

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter" <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I had the same experience with all of my ACPRs, actually, and determined
> that it was helpful to 'buffer' the pitch CV by putting it through the INV
> section of the ACPR first. It took me awhile to narrow it down to the ACPR,
> though, as I thought it involved the PDIV and BLOG, but Rex said it's
> basically normal and suggested the 'fix' I just mentioned.
> Thanks for continuing the discussion. I can't recall if I've tried your
> particular technique. I'll patch it up today...
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM, johnrichoux <jrichoux@...>

> wrote:
>
> > Hi Matt
> >
> > I was interested in this question and finally got around to testing it
> > myself. I found that I
> > can make a 16 step sequence out of the 8x2 by simply applying the same
> > clock (DTG gate)
> > to both the SEQ and the ACPR. With each pulse, it switches from A to B,
> > then the SEQ
> > advances one stage. The DTG gate has to be as square as you can get it.
> > (Wish I had a VC
> > Clock module)
> >
> > However, using this method to control pitch, I get a significant warble. It
> > is less noticeable
> > using the method suggested earlier, as the crossfade happens only once, but
> > with this
> > method it happens 8 times. I have the ACPR set full left. Even when the SEQ
> > is preset to
> > the last stage, and both A & B are set to zero, there is a distinct pitch
> > shift.
> >
> > The warble is even more pronounced when I run the clock thru the PDIV. The
> > greater the
> > division, more warble.
> >
> > I have run into similar pitch accuracy problems with the ACPR before. I
> > have ACPR's on
> > another panel, I should test with those.
> >
> > Thanks for raising the question
> > John Richoux
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> Yes, what I said was for a different problem. I just tried what you
> suggested and had the same 1/2 step sharpness at 12:00 and then the same
> effects with a gate applied to the VC XFADE.
>
> I'm trying your 2x8 patch, now, and playing with different PDIV divisions
> and getting some fun, aleatoric results. What are you using to change the
> reset points?
>
> Matt

>
>

> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@... <darkstr1746@...> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@... <darkstr1746@...>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular]DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM






what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
> >
> >
>

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...>

no, Ross is right.

my (variatons of, like the VC timegen Clock) DTG stop too, some times, and i also have to flick the switch to get them back in running mode.
its normal.

best regards,
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ser geModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM

what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "James R. Coplin" <james@...>

Mine will stop if I push their rate too high with a CV or modulated by themselves to adjust curve, I think this is normal. However, mine won�t ever stop if I just have them set and running.

James R. Coplin

************ ********* ********* *********
Work is the Curse of the Drinking Class
************ ********* ********* *********

From: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:SergeModula r@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of darkstr1746@ comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:27 AM
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] DTG mod available

uh. . no. it's not normal. the DTG will cycle unless you patch program it to stop.

mine never stopped. I had eight or more of them and i would leave them running for

weeks if that's how long it took me to work out the specifics of the patch i was working on.

Do the LEDs go out? and you have to flip the "cycle" switch to get it going again?. .that's not normal.

. . .or at least that wasn't "normal" on my system.

jd

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com>

no, Ross is right.

my (variatons of, like the VC timegen Clock) DTG stop too, some times, and i also have to flick the switch to get them back in running mode.
its normal.

best regards,
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ser geModular]DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM

what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, darkstr1746@... wrote:
>
> uh. . no. it's not normal. the DTG will cycle unless you patch
> program it to stop.
> mine never stopped. I had eight or more of them and i would leave
> them running for weeks if that's how long it took me to work out
> the specifics of the patch i was working on.

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@... <darkstr1746@...> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@... <darkstr1746@...>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular]DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:26 PM







uh. . no. it's not normal. the DTG will cycle unless you patch program it to stop.
mine never stopped. I had eight or more of them and i would leave them running for
weeks if that's how long it took me to work out the specifics of the patch i was working on.
Do the LEDs go out? and you have to flip the "cycle" switch to get it going again?. .that's not normal.
. . .or at least that wasn't "normal" on my system.
jd

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com>


no, Ross is right.

my (variatons of, like the VC timegen Clock) DTG stop too, some times, and i also have to flick the switch to get them back in running mode.
its normal.

best regards,
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ser geModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM

what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular]DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:38 PM






obviously, some tqeeks have been made and its normal for the right cell of my VC timegen clock and VC timegen osc.
i guess that's why your DTG never stopped, and mine (and Ross') do stop some time.
did you have any DTG with ac black inputs? or only 'standard' DTG with no AC inputs in them?

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:26 PM

uh. . no. it's not normal. the DTG will cycle unless you patch program it to stop.
mine never stopped. I had eight or more of them and i would leave them running for
weeks if that's how long it took me to work out the specifics of the patch i was working on.
Do the LEDs go out? and you have to flip the "cycle" switch to get it going again?. .that's not normal.
. . .or at least that wasn't "normal" on my system.
jd

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com>

no, Ross is right.

my (variatons of, like the VC timegen Clock) DTG stop too, some times, and i also have to flick the switch to get them back in running mode.
its normal.

best regards,
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ser geModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM

what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
>
> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
>
>
> >
> >

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...>

of course, most of the time, they will not stop if you just set them to run and no changing vc input is put in them.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:38 PM

obviously, some tqe eks have been made and its normal for the right cell of my VC timegen clock and VC timegen osc.
i guess that's why your DTG never stopped, and mine (and Ross') do stop some time.
did you have any DTG with ac black inputs? or only 'standard' DTG with no AC inputs in them?

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [SergeModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:26 PM

uh. . no. it's not normal. th e DTG will cycle unless you patch program it to stop.
mine never stopped. I had eight or more of them and i would leave them running for
weeks if that's how long it took me to work out the specifics of the patch i was working on.
Do the LEDs go out? and you have to flip the "cycle" switch to get it going again?. .that's not normal.
. . .or at least that wasn't "normal" on my system.
jd

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_ 2000@yahoo. com>

no, Ross is right.

my (variatons of, like the VC timegen Clock) DTG stop too, some times, and i also have to flick the switch to get them back in running mode.
its normal.

best regards,
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memoryge ist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: darkstr1746@ comcast.net <darkstr1746@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ser geModular] DTG mod available
To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:30 AM

what do you mean. ."stops"?. The only time mine ever stopped was when i accidently blew it up with a 18v. input spike. nice. hahaha
jd
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From: amnesia <amni56@.... au>
> Hi all
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> I love the DTG but hate it when it stops and you have to flick the
> switch and start it again....is there a mod for it?
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