AETHERPHON, global theremin family

David

How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it wasn't taking 
requests from bands?

PHILIP

I get the same reply from David's myspace
"David Vesel does not accept add requests from bands."

bret

--- On Sun, 5/25/08, kmg5443 <kmg5443@...> wrote:

> From: kmg5443 <kmg5443@...>
> Subject: [Aetherphon] Myspace
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 8:42 PM
> David
> 
> How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it
> wasn't taking 
> requests from bands?
> 
> PHILIP
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> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
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> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
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Quoting kmg5443 <kmg5443@...>:
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> David
>
> How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it wasn't taking
> requests from bands?
>
> PHILIP
>
Despite the Service Agreement for Myspace, many bands spam Myspace --  
in fact, there is software that circumvents Myspace's policies to  
allow bands to spam thousands of users a day (yes, there are ways to  
get around the 300 friend-request per day limit).

As a result, many users have set their profiles to not take friend  
requests from bands.

Since I have a band profile myself, it seems only right to accept  
requests from other bands.  However, if someone spams my comment  
section on a regular basis then I remove them from my friend list.  I  
appreciate the time and thoughtfulness of people when they leave me  
personal comments.

What you can do, though, is to send a message to someone and ask them  
to request you as a friend.  I have done this a few times when, after  
looking at someone's profile, I was reasonably sure that they would  
find my music of interest.  In every case, the people I contacted sent  
me friend requests.  People do enjoy personal notes and some evidence  
that one has taken the time to actually look at their profile.

And that's about all I know about Myspace.

-- Kevin

Same reply from spellbound myspace:
Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin does not accept add requests from bands.


--- On Sun, 5/25/08, Bret <echoplex@...> wrote:

> From: Bret <echoplex@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Myspace
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 8:59 PM
> I get the same reply from David's myspace
> "David Vesel does not accept add requests from
> bands."
> 
> bret
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/25/08, kmg5443 <kmg5443@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: kmg5443 <kmg5443@...>
> > Subject: [Aetherphon] Myspace
> > To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 8:42 PM
> > David
> > 
> > How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it
> > wasn't taking 
> > requests from bands?
> > 
> > PHILIP
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> > 
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> > 
> > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> > 
> > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Good suggestion about sending the message, Kevin.
I get requests for one of my myspace band pages, where it is clear they did not look at, listen to, or know anything about the band (when their lyrical content and band attitude is clearly contrary to mine).
 
bret


--- On Sun, 5/25/08, kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...> wrote:

> From: kkissinger@... <kkissinger@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Myspace
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 9:00 PM
> Quoting kmg5443 <kmg5443@...>:
> >
> > David
> >
> > How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it
> wasn't taking
> > requests from bands?
> >
> > PHILIP
> >
> Despite the Service Agreement for Myspace, many bands spam
> Myspace --  
> in fact, there is software that circumvents Myspace's
> policies to  
> allow bands to spam thousands of users a day (yes, there
> are ways to  
> get around the 300 friend-request per day limit).
> 
> As a result, many users have set their profiles to not take
> friend  
> requests from bands.
> 
> Since I have a band profile myself, it seems only right to
> accept  
> requests from other bands.  However, if someone spams my
> comment  
> section on a regular basis then I remove them from my
> friend list.  I  
> appreciate the time and thoughtfulness of people when they
> leave me  
> personal comments.
> 
> What you can do, though, is to send a message to someone
> and ask them  
> to request you as a friend.  I have done this a few times
> when, after  
> looking at someone's profile, I was reasonably sure
> that they would  
> find my music of interest.  In every case, the people I
> contacted sent  
> me friend requests.  People do enjoy personal notes and
> some evidence  
> that one has taken the time to actually look at their
> profile.
> 
> And that's about all I know about Myspace.
> 
> -- Kevin
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

Quoting Bret <echoplex@...>:
>
> Good suggestion about sending the message, Kevin.
> I get requests for one of my myspace band pages, where it is clear   
> they did not look at, listen to, or know anything about the band   
> (when their lyrical content and band attitude is clearly contrary to  
>  mine).
>
> bret
>
I try to be generous about friend requests.  The only times I've  
turned down friend requests (or removed a friend from the list) is:

. the account had racist, sexist, or otherwise hateful content
. the account contained links to pornographic sites
. the account spammed me on a CONSISTANT basis (I don't mind if  
someone posts an occasional announcement)

I can handle an occasional cuss-word.

Of course, I can't check EVERYTHING and there could be something in  
someone's blogs that I am unaware of.  I go by the profile page.

I am bothered by the "top friends" feature because many people have  
inspired or touched me in some way and should be in my top friends  
list -- I need more than 24 slots.  And, a third of the slots are  
occupied by family and few of my daughter's friends.  I would prefer  
to set it up so it rotates through my friends list somehow (maybe  
there is some way to do that... I haven't figured it out, though).

I don't have nearly enough time to write people that I'd like to  
write.  Not enough time to keep up with Myspace.

Such is life.

-- Kevin

This is the case where I have refused myspace friends:
"the account had racist, sexist, or otherwise hateful content"

I have no problem hearing George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words", but I will not associate with the above.

I'm still trying to figure out the ins and outs of myspace.
I have found some interesting music and videos there, that I would not likely have experienced otherwise.

bret

On 26 May 2008, at 04:30, kkissinger@... wrote:

>  the "top friends" feature

>  I need more than 24 slots

It's up to 40 now.

> I would prefer to set it up so it rotates through my friends list  
> somehow (maybe there is some way to do that... I haven't figured it  
> out, though).

You can randomise your top friends. (This was recently introduced.)  
It's at the top of the "edit your top friends" page.

> Despite the Service Agreement for Myspace, many bands spam Myspace --
> in fact, there is software that circumvents Myspace's policies to
> allow bands to spam thousands of users a day (yes, there are ways to
> get around the 300 friend-request per day limit).

I resemble that remark. :-)

Well, a little bit. I'm currently working the Without Touch site (for  
the theremin fest in Lippstadt. Did I mention there was a theremin  
fest in Lippstadt?) but with a self-imposed limit of 200 requests per  
day - quite enough to keep me busy, especially as I'm doing CAPTCHAs  
by hand - my concession to the service agreement - and focussing on  
the target audience as closely as my software permits - i.e. only  
European friends of well known thereminists (mostly), followed by a  
single short text-only comment when they accept the add. 3000 friends  
so far, and no complaints from anyone I added. (And a fair number of  
thank-yous to boot.)

I'm aware that "ethical spamming" is an oxymoron, but I justify it in  
my own mind by observing that the festival organiser is doing the  
dance of joy at the results, by euphemising it as "promoting" or  
"spreading the word" and by noting that about ten comments equals one  
friend request - often from excited thereminists who have not yet  
discovered the online theremin community. And that everyone who  
visits http://myspace.com/withouttouch gets exposed to a lovely bit  
of Clara.

Hey-ho.

> I try to be generous about friend requests. The only times I've
> turned down friend requests (or removed a friend from the list) is:
>
> . the account had racist, sexist, or otherwise hateful content
> . the account contained links to pornographic sites
> . the account spammed me on a CONSISTANT basis (I don't mind if
> someone posts an occasional announcement)
>
>

I would add to that list anyone dim-witted enough to let their  
account be hijacked by spammers. I don't want to shop at Macy's or  
find out who fancies me, and I don't want people who visit my profile  
to be tempted. Also I'm especially wary of requests from attractive  
young women in their bikinis because, hey, I DON'T "wanna get laid  
tonite" or meet their "hottie" friends, because, as the song says,  
(*) all I'd get is bitter and a nasty little rash.

Gordon

(*) Squeeze - "Cool For Cats" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pehHNJWKf3g

Quoting Gordon Charlton <gordonc@...>:
>
> Well, a little bit. I'm currently working the Without Touch site (for
> the theremin fest in Lippstadt. Did I mention there was a theremin
> fest in Lippstadt?) but with a self-imposed limit of 200 requests per
> day - quite enough to keep me busy, especially as I'm doing CAPTCHAs
> by hand - my concession to the service agreement - and focussing on
> the target audience as closely as my software permits - i.e. only
> European friends of well known thereminists (mostly), followed by a
> single short text-only comment when they accept the add. 3000 friends
> so far, and no complaints from anyone I added. (And a fair number of
> thank-yous to boot.)
>
> ..."ethical spamming"
>
Gordon, I don't consider your efforts as to be spam.  In reality, you  
are performing a service to the theremin community by sharing  
information about the Lippstadt event.

I should have been clearer in my comment.  Sometimes I get friend  
requests from dj's or bands that have no relation to my music or  
interests in what appears to be indiscriminate promotion.  I tend to  
ignore such requests.

As far as Lippstadt -- I wish I could be there -- just too costly for  
me to travel from the middle of the USA.

-- Kevin

Let me tell you, Kevin, I had to think about your friend request for 
LONG LONG time....do I really want to do this?? Will this impact me 
positively, or will the fabric of the Universe be rent beyond 
repair.....1.243 seconds later I said, "Sure, why not!!!!", and hit YES.

Notice on my profile that my daughter Sarah is No. 1. If I move her, 
there will be H**L to pay. 15 going on 34, and those hormones can 
really make life unpleasant!!

PHILIP

Philip,

Send me a message on MySpace from the account you want a friend request 
for and I'll send you one back.

Unfortunately, I had to disable band friend requests because I was being 
pelted with drive-by requests from every crappy little emo band and 
wannabe rapper in the universe.  As long as someone is willing to talk 
to me interactively, I'll do a friend request with them.  But it's one 
of the negatives of doing business on MySpace.

-----
DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
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Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin
Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com

kmg5443 wrote:

> David
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> How do I do a friend request? Tried to do one and it wasn't taking 
> requests from bands?
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> PHILIP
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Kevin,

You can now have up to 40 "top friends".  I agree, though, that some 
sort of rotation would be very nice.

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DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
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Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin
Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com

kkissinger@... wrote:

> Quoting Bret <echoplex@...>:
>> Good suggestion about sending the message, Kevin.
>> I get requests for one of my myspace band pages, where it is clear   
>> they did not look at, listen to, or know anything about the band   
>> (when their lyrical content and band attitude is clearly contrary to  
>>  mine).
>>
>> bret
>>
> I try to be generous about friend requests.  The only times I've  
> turned down friend requests (or removed a friend from the list) is:
> 
> . the account had racist, sexist, or otherwise hateful content
> . the account contained links to pornographic sites
> . the account spammed me on a CONSISTANT basis (I don't mind if  
> someone posts an occasional announcement)
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> I can handle an occasional cuss-word.
> 
> Of course, I can't check EVERYTHING and there could be something in  
> someone's blogs that I am unaware of.  I go by the profile page.
> 
> I am bothered by the "top friends" feature because many people have  
> inspired or touched me in some way and should be in my top friends  
> list -- I need more than 24 slots.  And, a third of the slots are  
> occupied by family and few of my daughter's friends.  I would prefer  
> to set it up so it rotates through my friends list somehow (maybe  
> there is some way to do that... I haven't figured it out, though).
> 
> I don't have nearly enough time to write people that I'd like to  
> write.  Not enough time to keep up with Myspace.
> 
> Such is life.
> 
> -- Kevin
> 
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> ------------------------------------
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> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
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