Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

>
> Hello everybody!
> I'm new in this group and this is my first post (but it won't be the last).
> This time I need some help of you:
> 
> I have found that three of the push-encoders in the top row are damaged. They work normal if I rotate them slowly but they don't change values if I rotate them relatively fast. I have not tested all other encoders already (don't use the unit often) but possibly there are more encoders damagaded. 
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> My question is: does anyone knows the encoders specifications/part number???. Would like to buy them off-the-shelf if possible.
> 
> BTW, I opened the unit last night and cleaned one of the affected encoders with contact cleaner but I didn't have the time to reassemble the unit and try it yet. Anyway...it won't work....I feel it's another mechanical issue.
> 
> Waiting for some feedback from you!
> 
> Best regards!
> 
> Nicolas.
>

>
> Hi Nicolas
> 
> you can program the encoders in such a way that this problem would manifest itself.
> 
> Try programming one of the encoders like this 
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> $rev R1
> $encoder 1
>  .showvalue on
>  .mode 1dot
>  .minmax 0 127
>  .default 0
>  .resolution 96 96 96 96  ; this is the problem line
>  .tx $B0 7 val
> $end
> 
> This is a volume control on channel 1
> 
> Use MidiOx to check the output
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Royce
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Nico Bcr <nicobcr@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody!
> > I'm new in this group and this is my first post (but it won't be the last).
> > This time I need some help of you:
> > 
> > I have found that three of the push-encoders in the top row are damaged. They work normal if I rotate them slowly but they don't change values if I rotate them relatively fast. I have not tested all other encoders already (don't use the unit often) but possibly there are more encoders damagaded. 
> > 
> > My question is: does anyone knows the encoders specifications/part number???. Would like to buy them off-the-shelf if possible.
> > 
> > BTW, I opened the unit last night and cleaned one of the affected encoders with contact cleaner but I didn't have the time to reassemble the unit and try it yet. Anyway...it won't work....I feel it's another mechanical issue.
> > 
> > Waiting for some feedback from you!
> > 
> > Best regards!
> > 
> > Nicolas.
> >
>

>
> Hi Nicolas
> > You mean that ¨.resolution 96 96 96 96¨ would be the cause of the problem or I got it wrong?.
> 
> No the 96 96 96 96 should be OK
> It is how many Midi messages per revolution when I turn it slow, normal , fast, very fast
> 
> .resolution 50 0 0 0
> would cause the encoder to only output when you are turning it slowly
> I thought it was worth a try before more drastic action.
>    
> > Anyway, if I rotate the encoder applying some force perpendicular to its shaft, it will work correctly. So, logic indicates it's a mechanical issue.
> 
> Ah, this is different. If it changes like this, it sounds mechanical. You could get some electrical contact cleaner and spray it down the shaft on each of the encoders before you try to open them up.
> This fixed the encoder on my Emu Proteus 2k
> 
> All the best
> 
> Royce
>

>
> Hi Nicolas
> 
> > Ok, I have cleaned one of the encoders with contact cleaner. If this doesn't work, I will desolder the encoder and pray it has a code on it!
> 
> They are either optical ( a light shining through holes in a disk) or more likely mechanical (a copper contact slides around copper tracks on a disk) .
> In either case it is likely they are dirty and just need cleaning.
> The worst case would be a broken disk but that only occurs with severe abuse. Or a worn disk , but that is very unlikely as well.
> 
> Most likely a cup of coffee found its way down the shafts and a clean is all that is needed.
> 
> Best of luck
> Royce
>